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    Vacheron 1921 drivers watch

    Always admired this watch - but noticed something today - the dial alignment is of course skewed for ease of reading when hands on steering wheel, but should the running seconds subdial not match the alignment of the dial? Once seen and all that

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    Doubt the running seconds would be of use when driving, more likely to use it to time something when not driving.

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    I don't understand. It does match the alignment, being centred on the 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    I don't understand. It does match the alignment, being centred on the 3.
    The 60 sec marker on the sub seconds is in line with where the 12 would normally be on a traditional dial lay out, not with where the 12 is on this watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerald Genta View Post
    The 60 sec marker on the sub seconds is in line with where the 12 would normally be on a traditional dial lay out, not with where the 12 is on this watch.
    Correct. I’d expect the zero to line with the 12 o’clock indice

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    Got it, thank you.

    I actually like it that way
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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBin5 View Post
    Correct. I’d expect the zero to line with the 12 o’clock indice
    Can't unsee!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    Got it, thank you.

    I actually like it that way
    Just looks weird. If you want to read the correct time then the second hand at zero points to 10.30. Bizarre

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    In comparison, here is my Longines Type A-7 with the subdials matching the offset dial.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    Got it, thank you.

    I actually like it that way
    I agree - something about the positioning of the numbers works perfectly right to me. I can't explain why, but it does.

    Especially when looking in comparison with the Longines posted above which looks extremely jarring.

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    Not convinced I could wear a watch with the dial on such an angle. I get why it's like that, but would look wrong on the wrist under normal use.

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    Doesn't really bother me, I think having the seconds dial aligned makes the whole dial skewed too much at an angle.
    Personally I wasn't that drawn to it until I tried one on the wrist. It remains on my wishlist.




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    Forgive my ignorance but does it matter which wrist these are worn on?

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    you would need to hold your steering wheel in a very curious way to make it legible on your right wrist
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    ^Ha, only readable during moments of excessive oversteer on left hand corners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBin5 View Post
    Always admired this watch - but noticed something today - the dial alignment is of course skewed for ease of reading when hands on steering wheel, but should the running seconds subdial not match the alignment of the dial? Once seen and all that
    That is a bit of a killer and yes would rule it out for me. Mind you I'm not keen on the idea of wearing a watch on the inside of my wrist anyway and these angled driving watches just look wrong worn in the usual position on top of the wrist IMO. Like wearing your trousers back to front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    ^Ha, only readable during moments of excessive oversteer on left hand corners.
    Which is precisely the moment when you need to know the time. It makes perfect sense

    That said, it's probably my dream 3 hands dress watch. It's wonderful on the (left) wrist. And even in the couple of minutes I wore it at Salon QP a few years ago, reading was easy as you just have to lift your arm, without having to move your elbow away from your body as you do to read a "normal" watch (IIMMC)
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    Looking at photos on other websites, it's surprising how many owners of this not cheap watch either don't know it's designed to be worn on the inside of the left wrist or choose to wear it skew-whiff on the outside of the left wrist.

    Last edited by Tinker; 5th February 2020 at 21:21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinker View Post
    Looking at photos on other websites, it's surprising how many owners of this not cheap watch either don't know it's designed to be worn on the inside of the left wrist or choose to wear it skew-whiff on the outside of the left wrist.
    I know that’s the correct way to wear my Longines, although I don’t, but is it also correct for the driver when the controls are obviously different? Wearing my Longines on the outside when driving the watch is in the perfect position, if it was on the inside of the wrist I would have to remove my hands from the wheel to check the time.

    All irrelevant really though, luxury watches are rarely used for their intended purpose. Try desk driving with a watch on the inside of your wrist and see how many times you whack it in a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    That said, it's probably my dream 3 hands dress watch. It's wonderful on the (left) wrist.
    Does look wonderful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Danstone View Post
    Try desk driving with a watch on the inside of your wrist and see how many times you whack it in a day.
    At my age, I'm not whacking it that much. Does the watch help?

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    I just noticed the crown is poisoned above 12 also, is that like a pocket watch thing or ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by benwisback View Post
    I just noticed the crown is poisoned above 12 also, is that like a pocket watch thing or ?


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    It wouldn’t work positioned any where else- positioning the crown at the traditional 3 O’clock would look awful?


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    My favourite ever watch.

    I was amazed how thin it was when I tried 1 on a few years ago.

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    With the crown at 3 o'clock the subdial would be at 6 o'clock.
    This type of offset position was seen during WW1 on US trench watches.

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