MotoGP 2020

**andy tims** · 26th July 2020, 17:26

Superb Moto 3 race and great to see Rossi on the podium.

Suzi looking good too.

**PickleB** · 30th July 2020, 17:53

ICYMI (I had)...WADA will seek a 4 year ban for Iannone:

The World Anti-Doping Agency will attempt to have MotoGP rider Andrea Iannone’s drugs ban extended out to the maximum four years, it has been reported.

The Italian is currently serving an 18-months suspension from competition after testing positive for the banned steroid drostanolone during the Malaysian MotoGP event in November 2019.

It is a ban that would keep him out of action until July 2021, Aprilia MotoGP rider Iannone has protested his innocence, claiming he ingested the substance unknowingly through contaminated meat served at the hotel he was staying in...

I'm not sure what to make of this move by WADA and I note that the article says "it has been reported" and so it may amount to nothing.

**Dynam0humm** · 4th August 2020, 01:42

MM has had another op to replace the plate in his arm.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/...eration/336779

Might be wise for him to forget about this shorter and condensed season and focus on a proper recovery and a dominant 2021, but we all know he's not wired like that...

**Huertecilla** · 5th August 2020, 10:56

Originally Posted by Dynam0humm

MM has had another op to replace the plate in his arm.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/...eration/336779

Might be wise for him to forget about this shorter and condensed season and focus on a proper recovery and a dominant 2021, but we all know he's not wired like that...

In this case imo Honda management should unplug that wire till after Styria. Yes that will scupper his championship chances but it will save his racing career. It is not like he is the sole Honda rider and if he is the only one with a chance on this Honda, then it is a good thing they will be forced to sort the bike.

**andy tims** · 5th August 2020, 11:16

Originally Posted by Huertecilla

In this case imo Honda management should unplug that wire till after Styria. Yes that will scupper his championship chances but it will save his racing career. It is not like he is the sole Honda rider and if he is the only one with a chance on this Honda, then it is a good thing they will be forced to sort the bike.

Agreed

**Omegamanic** · 6th August 2020, 22:10

The Honda is hardly a bad bike. The nonsense that MM is the only rider capable of riding it is just that. Apart from a bad final year (2018) Dani finished no lower than 4th on it in the 10 previous years, with the exception of another bad injury year in 2016. Lorenzo would likely have got to grips with it eventually if he wasn’t smashed up badly before the racing season began.

All the bikes could be improved. That’s what continuous development is for.

**PickleB** · 14th August 2020, 21:00

Originally Posted by PickleB

ICYMI (I had)...WADA will seek a 4 year ban for Iannone:

...

The appeals were due to be heard soon, but now the hearing is set for 15 October...link:

...The Italian rider is therefore seeking to have the ban struck out, while WADA wants it extended to four years, and it is the latter which has been granted its request to have the appeal hearing delayed until October 15, reports Sky Sports Italy.

That timeline places Aprilia, which continues to back Iannone, in an awkward situation given the state of the rider market....

**Omegamanic** · 16th August 2020, 14:43

Crazy day of racing. Very pleased for Dovi. Rossi and co were very lucky not to be badly/fatally injured.

**PickleB** · 16th August 2020, 15:58

Originally Posted by Omegamanic

Crazy day of racing. Very pleased for Dovi. Rossi and co were very lucky not to be badly/fatally injured.

+1

Very fortunate not to have more significant injuries in both M2 and MGP.

And they get to do it all again next weekend...

Edit Apparently Red Bull bring a CAT scanner to the track for the use of Clinica Mobile...and Franco Morbidelli got to try it out but is OK (link) with only minor injuries.

**Enoch** · 16th August 2020, 17:08

I’m waiting for Pol to blame everybody on the track for his accident🤪🤪

**Dynam0humm** · 16th August 2020, 18:37

That was about 1/10th of a second from being a very dark day for motorcycle racing. Rossi's face in the garage afterwards said it all.

**Chris_in_the_UK** · 16th August 2020, 18:42

This is the onboard!

**PickleB** · 16th August 2020, 18:47

That was the second red flag of the day. Here's the first...www.youtube.com/watch?v=chBL37-iKVE.

**Chris_in_the_UK** · 16th August 2020, 18:49

Originally Posted by PickleB

That was the second red flag of the day. Here's the first...www.youtube.com/watch?v=chBL37-iKVE.

Exciting?

Or unsafe?

**Wyvern971** · 16th August 2020, 18:54

I'd say unsafe, one of the italtrans bikes went down, another rider was unsighted and hit at speed, lucky all round, could have been much worse.

The Rossi one reminds me of a BSB crash a few years ago at Caldwell where the bike hit a curb and narrowly missed another rider on the way down

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**PickleB** · 16th August 2020, 19:09

Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK

Exciting?

Or unsafe?

Certainly not exciting...that bit at least. Fortunately the cameras stayed away from the aftermath apart from those walking away. Then there was a long shot showing the medical crew in attendance...by which time the commentator had relayed that all involved were conscious. Only after that were other angles of the incident shown.

"Unsafe?" All motorcycle racing is 'unsafe' by certain standards. Motor racing carries a degree of risk. The fact that the air-bag suits managed to protect several riders today shows, IMO, that the risks are being managed as far a possible. In days gone by the results would probably have been far worse.

Why do you ask?

**Omegamanic** · 16th August 2020, 19:28

I think Rossi’s look of concern was more likely thinking about Morbidelli until they had the official news. But seeing a bike or two fly by in front of you would take your breath away

**Chris_in_the_UK** · 16th August 2020, 19:52

Originally Posted by PickleB

Why do you ask?

Just a thought - no real issues per-se. The TT loses some every year, but some laud the differences between Moto GP and F1 in terms of 'excitement' and racing.

Circuit racing of any form should be the safest way to race but this just reminds that 'sh@t happens'.

The TT is still the pinnacle of motorcycle racing for me.

**Happyal** · 16th August 2020, 19:58

Originally Posted by Dynam0humm

That was about 1/10th of a second from being a very dark day for motorcycle racing. Rossi's face in the garage afterwards said it all.

OMG that is terrifying. Glad everyone was OK but that was really close.

**higham5** · 16th August 2020, 23:00

Originally Posted by Happyal

OMG that is terrifying. Glad everyone was OK but that was really close.

Hodgeson quoted when the two touched they were nudging 200 mph !!

**andy tims** · 17th August 2020, 11:01

Amazing that nobody was badly hurt. Those Airbag suits must be worth their weight in gold.

**PickleB** · 17th August 2020, 11:56

Originally Posted by andy tims

Amazing that nobody was badly hurt. Those Airbag suits must be worth their weight in gold.

The suits and a large dose of luck played their parts:

**PickleB** · 17th August 2020, 13:45

Originally Posted by Omegamanic

Crazy day of racing. Very pleased for Dovi. Rossi and co were very lucky not to be badly/fatally injured.

I missed the Moto3 race on Sunday (got the timing wrong) and only just found and watched it online.

What a race...really close (contact) and constantly changing at the front, without any undue incidents. Track limits warnings and various penalties handed out, some after the finish. I'm looking forward to next weekend already.

**Dynam0humm** · 18th August 2020, 13:29

Parp!

A good piece by Mat Oxley about the incident and the current state of the racing in general - Link

**PickleB** · 18th August 2020, 14:22

Originally Posted by Dynam0humm

Parp!

...image...

A good piece by Mat Oxley about the incident and the current state of the racing in general - Link

Mat Oxley says "Viñales actually ducked...", he certainly reacted but as that photo shows I think he sat up a bit and raised both arms protectively over his head (some home). Although he seems to be trying to keep his head down too. Looking for that photo led me to the article it comes from: Boris on the Red Bull Ring MotoGP. The journalism may be a bit more flamboyant than some other articles, but I found it worth a read.

**bwest76** · 20th August 2020, 23:31

Nightmare,I wouldn’t blame Valentino if he decided enough is enough.

**bwest76** · 20th August 2020, 23:33

**PickleB** · 20th August 2020, 23:53

Originally Posted by bwest76

...video...

Nightmare,I wouldn’t blame Valentino if he decided enough is enough.

Have a listen...Did Rossi question his future after the Austrian GP crash?

Meanwhile there is an Update from the FIM MotoGP Stewards...with their decision about the Franco Morbidelli / Johann Zarco incident to be published tomorrow Fri 21 Aug.

**PickleB** · 21st August 2020, 10:20

Link:

After the incident during the Austrian GP MotoGP™ race involving Johann Zarco (Esponsorama Racing) and Franco Morbidelli (Petronas Yamaha SRT) that brought out the Red Flag, the FIM MotoGP™ Stewards Panel held hearings on Thursday the 20th of August with both riders involved.

After evaluation it was determined that there was evidence of irresponsible riding from Johann Zarco, which has resulted in a penalty. The Frenchman will start his next MotoGP™ race from pitlane.

Plus he is still recovering from his operation and didn't ride in FP1.

**Omegamanic** · 21st August 2020, 11:26

Well that outcome was not un-expected.

Hopefully all the riders will stop the more dangerous overtaking moves (Marquez being the absolute worst I’ve seen in recent times), but still try and maintain a level of aggression and excitement.

It’s a strange year, but I’m still loving watching the action as much as ever :)

**PickleB** · 21st August 2020, 16:03

Originally Posted by PickleB

Link:

After the incident during the Austrian GP MotoGP™ race involving Johann Zarco (Esponsorama Racing) and Franco Morbidelli (Petronas Yamaha SRT) that brought out the Red Flag, the FIM MotoGP™ Stewards Panel held hearings on Thursday the 20th of August with both riders involved.

After evaluation it was determined that there was evidence of irresponsible riding from Johann Zarco, which has resulted in a penalty. The Frenchman will start his next MotoGP™ race from pitlane.

Plus he is still recovering from his operation and didn't ride in FP1.

"Irresponsible" Zarco given pitlane start penalty:

...Zarco fractured the scaphoid of his right hand in last weekend’s crash and had surgery on Wednesday. He will sit out Friday, but plans to return to the circuit on Saturday.

A new barrier has been installed at Turn Three in an attempt to prevent a repeat of last weekend’s near-miss. Morbidelli and Zarco’s bikes slid off the track just after the Turn Two kink, but their momentum took them up the hill and back onto the circuit at the right-hand Turn Three, narrowly missing other riders.

If Zarco is unable to race this weekend, his penalty will apply at the following Grand Prix at Misano.

Update Zarco has just (Friday afternoon) been declared fit to race.

**Omegamanic** · 21st August 2020, 19:12

He may as well attempt to start the race then. As even if he is in too much pain to finish, he wound be penalised on a future race where he could compete. Of course he may well be healed enough to do well, and I hope that’s the case.

**Huertecilla** · 24th August 2020, 17:13

Marc Marquez will not reappear in the next two races, probably more he himself declared in an interview with spanish tv.

**Tifa** · 24th August 2020, 18:23

Originally Posted by Huertecilla

Marc Marquez will not reappear in the next two races, probably more he himself declared in an interview with spanish tv.

I'd be very suprised to see him back within the next two months.
Rumour has it he's banjaxed a nerve.
Will require serious rehab if so.
Be interesting to see how he copes on his return.
Fantastic rider, I hope things go well for him.

**Huertecilla** · 24th August 2020, 20:54

Originally Posted by Tifa

I'd be very suprised to see him back within the next two months.
Rumour has it he's banjaxed a nerve.
Will require serious rehab if so.
Be interesting to see how he copes on his return.
Fantastic rider, I hope things go well for him.

The reflexion by Serge Gibernau is that apart from the rehabilitation, this is the first time that MM has to deal with a réal setback. That it remains to be seen how he will cope.

Meanwhile the season is a cracker like we have not seen often before.
KTM is simply jaw dropping; being at the front with thréé riders and what is happening with Yamaha too in the inverse way.

Looking forward to the Italian races.

**higham5** · 24th August 2020, 21:47

Originally Posted by Huertecilla

The reflexion by Serge Gibernau is that apart from the rehabilitation, this is the first time that MM has to deal with a réal setback. That it remains to be seen how he will cope.

Meanwhile the season is a cracker like we have not seen often before.
KTM is simply jaw dropping; being at the front with thréé riders and what is happening with Yamaha too in the inverse way.

Looking forward to the Italian races.

Probably the most refreshing year of MotoGP for a while. Whilst I acknowledge MM is a truly gifted rider , his absence has made the rest of the field fizz with competition. I share with you the enjoyment of seeing KTM’s up at the front. The Suzuki also looks competitive

Steve

**bwest76** · 25th August 2020, 09:38

I watched the highlights last night.

brake failure,then jumping off the bike and it bursting into flames.

what a nightmare, I wonder if I would have had the nerve or even time to think about jumping,its making me sweat just thinking about it.

**PickleB** · 25th August 2020, 11:30

Originally Posted by bwest76

I watched the highlights last night.

brake failure,then jumping off the bike and it bursting into flames.

what a nightmare, I wonder if I would have had the nerve or even time to think about jumping,its making me sweat just thinking about it.

Remembering Spa-Francorchamps:

...“I remember it vividly – the main thing was the daunting speed of the place,” says Parrish, who was riding a year-old ex-Sheene factory RG500. “I remember riding through that long right-hander through the village of Burneville, thinking, ‘Fuck me, if it goes wrong here… this is just lunacy’. That corner was like an enormous Gerrards [at Mallory] – well over 100mph [160kph], but with no run-off whatsoever. Then there was that nasty fourth-gear kink on the Masta straight. That was one of those hold-your-frigging-breath-and-get-through-it corners. I suppose the good thing was there wasn’t a lot of corners to remember because most of the lap was just pinned.”...

**PickleB** · 13th September 2020, 13:46

Cracking races in Misano today.

**Omegamanic** · 13th September 2020, 20:04

Really enjoyed today’s races!

**emo72** · 14th September 2020, 19:13

i was disappointed Vale didnt make the podium. same track next race! 2 home races on the trot for him. have another nibble son.

**PickleB** · 19th September 2020, 12:37

Forgive me if everyone knows this already but I've only just found that Quest are showing a combination of WSBk and BSB live on dplay today and tomorrow.

**Dave+63** · 19th September 2020, 13:04

Originally Posted by PickleB

Forgive me if everyone knows this already but I've only just found that Quest are showing a combination of WSBk and BSB live on dplay today and tomorrow.

Thanks, I didn’t know and am now watching WSB race one.

**PickleB** · 19th September 2020, 14:53

Originally Posted by Dave+63

Thanks, I didn’t know and am now watching WSB race one.

Followed by World SuperSport with names like Andrea Locatelli, Philipp Öttl, Isaac Viñales and Can Öncü. Very entertaining...until the cloudburst in Barcelona. More to come tomorrow...

**Dave+63** · 19th September 2020, 14:58

Originally Posted by PickleB

Followed by World SuperSport with names like Andrea Locatelli, Philipp Öttl, Isaac Viñales and Can Öncü. Very entertaining...until the cloudburst in Barcelona. More to come tomorrow...

That was some downpour!

**Dynam0humm** · 19th September 2020, 15:20

Lol at Dovi's leathers -

**PickleB** · 11th October 2020, 12:08

Cold, wet race in Le Mans...could be interesting.

Update And so it proved to be...black flags and all.

**Enoch** · 15th October 2020, 20:57

The Doctor confirmed the news via social media, saying: “Unfortunately, this morning I woke up and I was not feeling good. My bones were score and I had a slight fever, so I immediately called the doctor who tested me twice. The ‘quick PCR test’ result was negative, just like the test I underwent on Tuesday. But the second one, of which the result was sent to me at 16:00 this afternoon, was unfortunately positive.

“I am so disappointed that I will have to miss the race at Aragon. I’d like to be optimistic and confident, but I expect the second round in Aragon to be a ‘no go’ for me as well… I am sad and angry because I did my best to respect the protocol and although the test I had on Tuesday was negative, I self-isolated since my arrival from le Mans. Anyways, this is the way it is, and I can’t do anything to change the situation. I will now follow the medical advice, and I just hope I will be feeling well soon.”

**PickleB** · 18th October 2020, 13:02

Good Moto3 race today. Moto2...another one bites the dust? On to MotoGP...

Update A very interesting start and first 20 laps. Now...what part will tyre life play?

**tucola** · 18th October 2020, 17:56

Moto2 and MotoGP championships both crazy-close this season! Good to see Marquez Jnr apparently starting to get to grips with the Honda and a Brit in overall contention in the intermediate class.

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