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    Leica M Cameras

    Hello,

    My father recently passed away and he had a small collection of cameras, mostly Leica M cameras and a handful of lens. He taught me a little about them, and gave me an M8 that I use sometimes, but I'm completely lost on some of this.

    Does anyone here know much about Leica cameras? I would like to know a little bit more about them. Anyone know what camera this is?



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    Sorry for the loss of your dad, hope you are doing ok.

    Leica Mlll f. I think.

    Nice.

    There is a chap on here that knows a lot more than I can comment on.

    Leica stuff is nice, I shoot with Leica but do not know much about the vintage kit.

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    Leica IIIc … the SN suggests 1949/50 vintage ... and maybe has a Leica 50/3.5 Elmar lens fitted. A fairly common Leica LTM (39mm screw thread) camera. Google Leica IIIc and study the links including that for instruction manual. If in working order could be worth maybe £150 -£200 (dealer selling price) … lens value a little less … Would need to see photo of front of the lens for positive lens ID. Camera was manufactured during period 1940-51. If not used regularly might require a service which could cost c. £150 … or more if shutter blinds need replacement.

    If you have the SNs of the other cameras they can be ID'd online e.g.

    https://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica..._Leica_Cameras

    https://www.cameraquest.com/ltmnum.htm

    https://www.cameraquest.com/leicanum.htm

    Some models are scarce and sought after … most are fairly common and there is a good demand for Leica M3, M2, M4 series and M6 / M7 film models if in working order. However, M3 and M2 models' viewfinder prisms tend to deteriorate and are expensive to remedy. All Leica models generally have good longevity apart from the earlier M2/M3 series viewfinder prism silvering.

    Leica s/h dealer prices guide

    https://www.reddotcameras.co.uk/#

    https://www.ffordes.com

    … ignore any LTM models listed as Luftwaffen … most have fake Luftwaffen engravings

    dunk
    Last edited by sundial; 1st February 2020 at 12:07.
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    This is the chap, fantastic reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundial View Post
    Leica IIIc … the SN suggests 1949/50 vintage ... and maybe has a Leica 50/3.5 Elmar lens fitted. A fairly common Leica LTM (39mm screw thread) camera. Google Leica IIIc and study the links including that for instruction manual. If in working order could be worth maybe £150 -£200 (dealer selling price) … lens value a little less … Would need to see photo of front of the lens for positive lens ID. Camera was manufactured during period 1940-51. If not used regularly might require a service which could cost c. £150 … or more if shutter blinds need replacement.

    If you have the SNs of the other cameras they can be ID'd online e.g.

    https://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica..._Leica_Cameras

    https://www.cameraquest.com/ltmnum.htm

    https://www.cameraquest.com/leicanum.htm

    Some models are scarce and sought after … most are fairly common and there is a good demand for Leica M3, M2, M4 series and M6 / M7 film models if in working order. However, M3 and M2 models' viewfinder prisms tend to deteriorate and are expensive to remedy. All Leica models generally have good longevity apart from the earlier M2/M3 series viewfinder prism silvering.

    Leica s/h dealer prices guide

    https://www.reddotcameras.co.uk/#

    https://www.ffordes.com

    … ignore any LTM models listed as Luftwaffen … most have fake Luftwaffen engravings

    dunk
    Thank you,

    Most of the other camera's he has have the model printed on them, he had a 3, 4, 5 and 2 * 6 (one in orgional packaging). He also had a couple od digitals, an M8 and M9. He had lens for all of them too, a nice selection of 28, 35, 50 etc.

    I'll have a look on the website, thank you again for the links. I think we will go to a specialist in the end, but it'll be a good idea to have some idea of the value.

    We are doing fine thank you, to the poster above. I'm just trying to look after my mum, make sure she is OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happyal View Post
    Thank you,

    Most of the other camera's he has have the model printed on them, he had a 3, 4, 5 and 2 * 6 (one in orgional packaging). He also had a couple od digitals, an M8 and M9. He had lens for all of them too, a nice selection of 28, 35, 50 etc.

    I'll have a look on the website, thank you again for the links. I think we will go to a specialist in the end, but it'll be a good idea to have some idea of the value.

    We are doing fine thank you, to the poster above. I'm just trying to look after my mum, make sure she is OK.
    If you're considering selling, a 'specialist' would not offer you anywhere near the market value for a straight sale. You'd be better off selling the bodies and lenses on a commission basis via a reputable dealer … but do not offer them all at once. Try the M cameras first … they will realise the highest values. Two reputable commission sale dealers are Ffordes Photographic and Red Dot Cameras. But few dealers would consider selling the M8 - because of its propensity for the monitor screen to develop 'coffee stain' syndrome. However, dealers would need to check / test all items before offering for sale. You can get an idea of potential values by regularly checking used prices on Ffordes and Red Dot Cameras websites. I have sold lots of Leica M and Leica screw mount cameras / lenses through both Ffordes and Red Dot. The M9 price would depend on whether it's had a Mk 2 sensor fitted … the Mk I sensor is prone to sensor glass laminate separation which now costs over £1000 to replace with a Mk 2. A fully functional M6 with original packaging can sell for over £1500. And it's best not to sell via specialist auctioneer dealers … their buyers are mainly other dealers and prices realised are low

    dunk

    EDIT: Another UK dealer specialising in used Leica sales is MPB . However, they likely would not be interested in older Leica screw thread bodies and lenses. MPB scrutinise /examine items offered to them for potential sale very carefully and might ask for detailed photos before making tentative offers .Their website is a fair guide for some Leica s/h sale values …but they do not offer a commission sale service:

    https://www.mpb.com/en-uk/used-equip...inder-cameras/

    https://www.mpb.com/en-uk/used-equip...-leica-lenses/


    Another s/h Leica specialist is Aperture Photographic … they are trustworthy but do not usually offer a commission sale service. Their 'buy-in' prices can be good compared to other dealers … but would be best to visit the store and deal with them face to face.

    https://apertureleica.com/pre-owned-leica/

    Ebay is the obvious vehicle for selling Leica cameras ' lenses / accessories but you really need to know your onions when describing / photographing Leica items for potential eBay sales

    If you want to learn more about your Leica cameras and lenses you might consider acquiring 'Leica Pocket Book 8th Edition' … it describes nearly all Leica / Leitz cameras & lenses produced from 1925 to 2012 and can thus provide info. for composing quality Ebay sales listings https://www.reddotcameras.co.uk/book...8-reprint.html … please ignore the Amazon UK chancers' listings for this book which are all ££OTT. Only the 8th edition is worth buying.
    Last edited by sundial; 7th February 2020 at 13:32. Reason: additional info
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