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    Rolex 1655

    Iím very interested in picking up a Rolex explorer 1655 this year. Iíve been researching the watch & there seems like an awful lot of variants, I believe there are 6 different editions, the Mk1, mk1.5, mk2, mk3, mk4 & mk5.
    Values seem to be all over the place from what i can see online, anywhere from £14k to 30k. There are no obvious differences like Matt/gilt dials so to the uninitiated itís a bit of a minefield. Iíve come across frog feet & rail dials, straight & lollipop hands but no real guidance as to which model(s) are the more desirable.
    Iíve seen several on sc over the past few years & prices are definitely on the rise (as with all things vintage & Rolex). This would be a major investment for me so I would really appreciate an help from the forum to avoid mistakes. I know that condition, especially of the dial, is paramount in vintage Rolex but what else should I be looking for?
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    This will give you a pretty good introduction.

    http://www.drsd.com/watch-info/oh-explorer-2/

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    Rolex 1655

    The early models with the straight seconds hand command a premium especially if they have the mark 1 bezel where the engravings are different as the numbers seem to be almost touching the glass.

    Also the rail dials are very hard to come across

    Iíve owned a couple and theyíre great watches and worth waiting for a nice one to come along

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    Mike Wood currently has a nice looking example up on his website

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyg View Post
    This will give you a pretty good introduction.

    http://www.drsd.com/watch-info/oh-explorer-2/
    Thank you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gcleminson View Post
    Mike Wood currently has a nice looking example up on his website
    Yes, Iíve seen that, Iíll be giving him a call soon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnya71 View Post
    The early models with the straight seconds hand command a premium especially if they have the mark 1 bezel where the engravings are different as the numbers seem to be almost touching the glass.

    Also the rail dials are very hard to come across

    Iíve owned a couple and theyíre great watches and worth waiting for a nice one to come along

    Regards John


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    Thank you John, much appreciated. Iím in no rush plus Iíd like to learn more before I commit.


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    One of my grail pieces, but as youíve found there is a huge variety of configurations and prices. A lot of the top money watches looked too good to be true with some certain undisclosed laser welding and reshaping of the case. However an all original example tends to have washed out dials and be a bit tired.

    This watch was one that always leapt at me from the pages of National Geographic as a child, with that iconic hand set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billyloves2boogie View Post
    Iím in no rush plus Iíd like to learn more before I commit.
    If you plan on wearing (and using) the watch, if you didn't know already, be aware that the original Explorer II is not a GMT watch. Although it obviously has the large orange hand, it can't be set independently to the hour hand and the bezel can't be moved (unlike it's contemporary, the GMT Master). Therefore, the orange hand purely serves as a day/night indicator (for speleologists!)

    I personally love the look of the 1655 Exp II but the lack of an actual GMT hand has always put me off.

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    Just to whet your appetitive - my old one. £560 new (!) and sold to Neil at Chronomaster, from memory.

    Another one I should have kept!




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    Good luck in your hunt and keep us posted. It's a beautiful watch.

    IDguy did a good video on YouTube which is worth watching on the 1655 if you haven't seen it.

    https://youtu.be/H0ZcS-wKU4c

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Just to whet your appetitive - my old one. £560 new (!) and sold to Neil at Chronomaster, from memory.

    Another one I should have kept!


    Yes, that was rather lovely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Just to whet your appetitive - my old one. £560 new (!) and sold to Neil at Chronomaster, from memory.

    Another one I should have kept!



    This is lovely one of my favourites.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird84 View Post
    Good luck in your hunt and keep us posted. It's a beautiful watch.

    IDguy did a good video on YouTube which is worth watching on the 1655 if you haven't seen it.

    https://youtu.be/H0ZcS-wKU4c
    Well worth the time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Just to whet your appetitive - my old one. £560 new (!) and sold to Neil at Chronomaster, from memory.

    Another one I should have kept!



    I saw your sales post Tony but it wasnít on my radar at that point in time. In hindsight it would have been perfect, how our tastes change the more we learn about brands & history.



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    1655

    Itís a marmite watch in my opinion, I like them and have been lucky to own a few of them including rail dials and a MK 1 straight hand ,but and be warned when on the wrist they are lovely but bloody hard to tell the time with .

    I probably shouldíve kept the full set RSC Serviced Rail Dial but hey ho , a nice loose example will cost a few quid but they are a very cool funky watch and I donít wear mine as much as I should .

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    I have an early straight hand. I donít wear it very often. But it always makes me smile when I do


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    Taken on board the marmite comment. Iíve had a steinhart homage but never actually seen a real one yet. I appeals on the grounds that itís so left field for Rolex, I get the legibility issues as it is a busy dial, I understand that itís not a gmt function either, but for me therein lies itís charm.
    I will reserve judgement until I see one up close.
    Iím also considering a 1675 & a 5513. Good examples of these available for the same money.


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    Personally, Iíd go for the 1675. A more useful complication and a far more iconic look. Or, looks (if you go for multiple bezel inserts).

    I actually went for a matte dialled 16750. Looks identical to a 1675 but with a very useful quick set date function.

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    Rolex 1655

    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo73 View Post
    Personally, Iíd go for the 1675. A more useful complication and a far more iconic look. Or, looks (if you go for multiple bezel inserts).

    I actually went for a matte dialled 16750. Looks identical to a 1675 but with a very useful quick set date function.
    Yes, Iím definitely looking at this as an option. Always wanted a vintage gmt, Mike Wood has great examples of all three currently in stock. As this would be a long term investment choice as well as a regular wearer Iím trying to understand which would prove to be the best in terms of an inheritance piece.
    Iím leaning towards the 1655 because it has a lot of character, but this could all change once I get up close & personal with the 1675 & the 5513. I feel a visit to the Old Watch Shop could be on the cards soon.


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    If you are seriously considering one of those 3, then Iíd definitely have a word with Mr Woods and make sure that he doesnít sell them. Then Iíd get up to Stockport as soon as you can. They wonít hang around for long and youíll kick yourself if you miss one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo73 View Post
    If you are seriously considering one of those 3, then Iíd definitely have a word with Mr Woods and make sure that he doesnít sell them. Then Iíd get up to Stockport as soon as you can. They wonít hang around for long and youíll kick yourself if you miss one.
    Arrives in Stockport.

    Scratches head.

    No pier or old people.

    50 miles to the West, a man who looks not unlike Stephen Fry sits alone in his shop counting mil subs, listening to seagulls and the occasional mobility scooter whirring past.

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    Oh, itís the other Stockport, isnít it?


    Southport. 😊

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    Best rolex ever. My Grail watch right now

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    Rolex 1655

    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo73 View Post
    If you are seriously considering one of those 3, then Iíd definitely have a word with Mr Woods and make sure that he doesnít sell them. Then Iíd get up to Stockport as soon as you can. They wonít hang around for long and youíll kick yourself if you miss one.
    Good advice.
    Might go to Southport though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    Arrives in Stockport.

    Scratches head.

    No pier or old people.

    50 miles to the West, a man who looks not unlike Stephen Fry sits alone in his shop counting mil subs, listening to seagulls and the occasional mobility scooter whirring past.
    We really ought to do a compilation of your best posts at some point :)

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    Love mine Rail dial not partying with any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    Arrives in Stockport.

    Scratches head.

    No pier or old people.

    50 miles to the West, a man who looks not unlike Stephen Fry sits alone in his shop counting mil subs, listening to seagulls and the occasional mobility scooter whirring past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bokbok View Post
    Love mine Rail dial not partying with any time soon.

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    Thatís lovely, which edition/year came with this dial?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Billyloves2boogie View Post
    Thatís lovely, which edition/year came with this dial?


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    Its 1975 ish and I think MK3, I heard they was made for a year rail dial

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    Grail watch for me. Definitely.

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    Mine. Had it for decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo73 View Post
    If you are seriously considering one of those 3, then Iíd definitely have a word with Mr Woods and make sure that he doesnít sell them. Then Iíd get up to Stockport as soon as you can. They wonít hang around for long and youíll kick yourself if you miss one.
    Unfortunately the number 1655 in Stockport only refers to this months reported crimes.

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    FYI, the joke about my typo has already been cracked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo73 View Post
    FYI, the joke about my typo has already been cracked.
    As a resident of Stockport I can confirm that more than one joke is available.

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