A little more info at: https://www.fratellowatches.com/brea...-321-ed-white/
I think you're trying to use too much logic here. Forget whether the co-axial escapement is used or not, co-axial isn`t necessarily better (that's been discussed to death in the past), but paying big money for a hand-wound movement that's an early 60s design is questionable. It could be argued that charging £4K for the Moonwatch which uses an ancient hand-wound movement also makes little sense, but that's the point; none of it makes rational sense and you can't equate any of it with 'value'. These things will sell well on the basis of the limited number available, whether they'll be worth buying for profit is open to debate, but I`m sure some folks will buy them on that basis.
Ideally, this should be produced alongside the current Moonwatch as an addition to the range, forget the limited edition hype and forget the 321 movement gimic, and sell at a more sensible price......but that's not the Omega way in this day and age.
It's far more appealing than a battered original at silly money, I`ve never understood the vintage Speedy hype.
Me too...I’ve never really understood the lure of a battered old vintage piece with worn jangly bracelet....unless the watch has actually been into space or the moon.It's far more appealing than a battered original at silly money, I`ve never understood the vintage Speedy hype.
For me its a really interesting hobby, learning about the little intricacies that make each reference different, the condition of each part, the history of the watch, the lume colour - the list goes on but I just really love vintage Speedmasters, same with Rolex, once you start collecting and learning its more than just a watch - shame its so bloody expensive!!It's far more appealing than a battered original at silly money, I`ve never understood the vintage Speedy hype.
13000chf, that’s £10,200 right now. I assume vat will be added, if so , make it about £12000 all in. Fratello Watches has a decent write-up.
Incidentally, you could make the case that the standard Speedy Pro, at a third of the price, is at least as ‘authentic’. Hexalite, closed back, metal bezel.
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I've been given a UK price of £11,300 and told the watch will be available in the first half of this year, so even more vague than Q1. I really like the watch and it is a very good size but at that price, I will most probably pass.
I wish it was hesalite.
I love fauxtina and im not ashamed.
It says £14,100 on their site!
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/w...31130403001001
That's a bit unfair for the UK market.
I like it a lot.
I don’t particularly care about the 321 movement.
Either go all original i.e non ceramic bezel, 321 movement, haselite or go with sapphire, newer co-axial movement and a ceramic bezel. Keep the fauxtina in any event.
With a newer movement, it would be a serious challenge to Daytona for me.
I like the regular Speedie as well but this just makes it that bit extra special.
It’s lovely. It’s also too expensive. Shame, as I’d love one.
I seem to be saying this about almost all new Omegas these days.
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Here’s a photo of the incorrect price that went up initially.
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Who thinks the bracelet will be available to purchase aftermarket for us FOIS owners?
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I'm making a bold statement here but I think the price is too low. Could you imagine if Rolex spent two years recreating a Valjoux 72 movement and building them 'as new' to go in a ceramic bezel Paul Newman re-edition, with unique bracelet and packaging. Collectors would go nuts.
This new 321 is beautiful, and the whole thing is more unique than say a Snoopy which shared movements and case with a regular Speedy and sells for much more than this piece, limited or not it's going to be hard to get, and the prices could go in to orbit.
Reintroducing a movement with such an important reputation must therefore be done with the utmost exactness. For the Calibre 321 project, OMEGA utilised a dedicated team of experts who worked efficiently over two years and in total secrecy to bring the movement to life. The small group was composed of researchers, developers and historians, as well as the finest craftsmen and experienced watchmakers. To protect the project’s exclusive details, the team even worked under the codename “Alaska 11”, in line with the names that OMEGA used for its secret Speedmaster designs for NASA in the 1960s and 70s.
Using the 2nd generation Calibre 321 as a reference, the OMEGA team compiled extensive historical research and original plans to reconstruct the movement as accurately as possible. Going even further, they also used “tomography” technology (digital scanning method) to see inside the true Speedmaster ST 105.003 timepiece that astronaut Eugene “Gene” Cernan wore on the moon during the Apollo 17 mission in 1972. Cernan was the last man to walk on the lunar surface and his Speedmaster is now housed at the OMEGA Museum in Bienne. Its Calibre 321 provided the perfect design criteria for OMEGA to follow.
As a result, even the most unique and iconic parts of the Calibre 321 have been reborn in respect to their authentic specifications. The movement wonderfully corresponds to the “moon period” of OMEGA’s history, with a construction that completely respects the designs from the past.
The new movements will now go into production at OMEGA’s HQ site in Bienne. Uniquely, all aspects of creation will be undertaken within a dedicated Calibre 321 workshop. For each movement, the assembly, as well as the watch head and bracelet assembly will be performed by the same watchmaker. Watch fans can expect more developments and news in the coming months.
I like this new 321 based Speedmaster but would I sell my 64 Ed White to buy it - no chance, they can call it what they like but only 16000 pre-moon watches were made with many of those gone over the last 55 years.
Like chrisparker said, I can see these changing hands for a lot more, especially in the first few years of production as it will mean only 4000 watches will be in the system with a lot more than 4000 buyers wanting them..
Imagine Rolex reissued the Newman Daytona, the watch world would lose its mind, here's hoping..
at half the price Omega are asking for this I would buy one immediately...
I think they wanted to wait until all the 50th Anniversary Moonwatch landing models were sold out with all the sales cash banked and then bring out this Speedmaster with the movement that everyone wanted in the Anniversary watch but never got.
With buyers paying over 30-40% on RRP for the Anniversary model, if I was one of them I would be crying into my coffee cup after this 321 movement announcement.
Assuming these aren't limited to Omega Boutiques then I can use an AD friend's Friends and Family discount and get one at £6216 which is actually what I think the value is. At least I shouldn't lose money on the inevitable flip at that price
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Having seen the Instagram story from Omega showing the watch in an exploded animation I'd say those images are renders so you're unlikely to get images that 'perfect' from the camera. I'm sure Watchfinder will do a pretty nice job if they get one for their Youtube videos though.
There’s a nice Ed white languishing on SC for considerable less...surely people prefer the original to the reissue...
I hope your Inbox is insured against fire, Ryan, because it's about to blow up.
I thought the 50th anniversary was expensive
This takes it to another dimension ridiculous
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Given the choice I would use the untinted green-white material. I don’t know if this is the ‘natural’ finish?
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