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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    Last time I spoke to a stranger about watches was with a very nice waiter in Belgo's in the west end, wearing a Sinn 556.
    We had a very nice chat about it and my family got very good service throughout our meal.
    He got a good tip and i hope everyone was happy.
    He was not a collector at all, just wanted to make an educated and different choice to the usual watch.

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    I've only ever seen one Sinn in the wild and, much to my dismay, l never got the chance to comment upon it - l wouldnt just barge up to someone and start talking watches!
    It was nice to see a non-default decision out and about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbongo View Post
    I hope he is.

    I also hope he has it in him to acknowledge that some people may have greater experience of some things than he does and that they don't share those experiences just to prove him wrong - but because they're the truth.
    I am always willing to admit that when it is the case. Are you?
    It's just democracy.

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    Intersting how this thread turned. Not unusual here on TZ.

    I suspect most on the forum are very nice to meet in person but do come over as needlessly argumentative in the forum world. Shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    I am always willing to admit that when it is the case. Are you?
    I am. Always.

    Go on then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbongo View Post
    I am. Always.

    Go on then...
    What?
    It's just democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    What?
    I mean, just for example, if you held a belief based upon you never having heard of a thing and then a couple of people who had never met each other and who had no agenda told you that the thing was real...
    ...based upon more people than you having had experience of said thing, would you consider the possibility that you were wrong?

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    There is a difference between stating that you and a couple of others have heard it (which I don't think anyone doubt for a second) and generalising it to say it's a common expression. In this case, the evidence supported by 2 or 3 or even 10 doesn't count as experience on the matter. I could tell you that everybody in England can speak French based on my family here, people I've worked with in different companies, etc. They would all confirm they can speak French too yet my assumption would be wrong.
    Memento Mori

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbongo View Post
    ..........based upon more people than you having had experience of said thing, ..............
    How would you know this? Others have agreed with me on this as well.
    It's just democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    There is a difference between stating that you and a couple of others have heard it (which I don't think anyone doubt for a second) and generalising it to say it's a common expression. In this case, the evidence supported by 2 or 3 or even 10 doesn't count as experience on the matter. I could tell you that everybody in England can speak French based on my family here, people I've worked with in different companies, etc. They would all confirm they can speak French too yet my assumption would be wrong.
    Of course, you are correct.
    Not my point exactly though. But - fair play- you just threw him a rubber ring. I'd hate to see a man drown.

  10. #210
    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    How would you know this? Others have agreed with me on this as well.
    You, sir, are the wise to my Morecambe. (Slaps your cheeks rapidly). X
    Last edited by Umbongo; 2nd January 2020 at 19:45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbongo View Post
    Of course, you are correct.
    Not my point exactly though. But - fair play- you just threw him a rubber ring. I'd hate to see a man drown.
    Hardly. I would disagree that you could possibly know you and others have met more people than me.
    It's just democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbongo View Post
    You, sir, are the wise to my Morecambe. (Slaps your cheeks rapidly). X
    And there was me thinking you were the Wily Coyote to my Roadrunner.
    It's just democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Hardly. I would disagree that you could possibly know you and others have met more people than me.
    I know that you could possibly know more than me Ernie... do you know that l could possibly know more than you? (Wiggles spectacles)
    Last edited by Umbongo; 2nd January 2020 at 19:53.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbongo View Post
    I know that you could possibly know more than me Ernie... do you know that l could possibly know more than you? (Wiggles spectacles)
    When the silly names stop we might continue. Reminds me of the kid in class who starts name calling in an attempt to sidetrack the discussion to be honest.

    Have a nice day.
    It's just democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    When the silly names stop we might continue. Reminds me of the kid in class who starts name calling in an attempt to sidetrack the discussion to be honest.

    Have a nice day.
    You know, that's my opinion of you also.
    Except, in class, l never sidetracked the discussion - l was there to learn.

    l don't see a need to throw you any more lifelines. The only question that remains is whether or not you're big enough not to bite one last time.

    Have a good night too. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbongo View Post
    You know, that's my opinion of you also.
    Except, in class, l never sidetracked the discussion - l was there to learn.

    l don't see a need to throw you any more lifelines. The only question that remains is whether or not you're big enough not to bite one last time.

    Have a good night too. :)
    You made some sweeping statements, which I questioned, and your only recourse was to resort to insults and attempting to demean.
    You donít need to throw me any lifelines thanks.


    Had a great night thanks.
    Last edited by oldoakknives; 3rd January 2020 at 08:17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl.1 View Post
    Intersting how this thread turned. Not unusual here on TZ.

    I suspect most on the forum are very nice to meet in person but do come over as needlessly argumentative in the forum world. Shame.
    How do you think some of the forum members have so many posts lol, I can see on this thread alone maybe a dozen or so posts from certain members that are utter dribble and are of no real use in this debate. keeps them happy though lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    You made some sweeping statements, which I questioned, and your only recourse was to resort to insults and attempting to demean.
    You donít need to throw me any lifelines thanks.


    Had a great night thanks.
    And bit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfat33 View Post
    Thatís OK, when I last wore my Fortis to the pub I got asked if it was a Rolex .
    Over the last few years I was asked a couple of times if my PRS-9 was a Rolex and when I would say yes I was looked at approvingly.

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    When I'm out on my road bike or doing any sort of work where I may damage and of my expensive watches, I wear a £20 Casio A163WA-1QES
    Last edited by Spesh; 3rd January 2020 at 12:53.

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    Even Rolex make cheap copies of their watches. They call them Tudor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbongo View Post
    And bit...
    In a discussion it's called replying. Unless of course the other person is simply posting experiences they invented, in an attempt to wind someone up, then it's probably trolling.

    I'll leave it there, no doubt you will want to have the last word as usual.
    It's just democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    Over the last few years I was asked a couple of times if my PRS-9 was a Rolex and when I would say yes I was looked at approvingly.
    I was tempted to point out that Fortis did actually sell the first automatic wrist watch but then I remembered I was in the real world where no-one gives a toss

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    In a discussion it's called replying. Unless of course the other person is simply posting experiences they invented, in an attempt to wind someone up, then it's probably trolling.

    I'll leave it there, no doubt you will want to have the last word as usual.
    You see, what you're doing there is, in a rather paranoid way, hinting that l may be lying about my experiences... or at least, in your mind, somebody is... that's one of the ugliest, most paranoid behavioural traits l can think of...and much of the reason l chose to challenge your train of thought - you actually prefer to believe that people are liars than consider that you are wrong...

    ...as for the "last word" comment... If you go back a post or two, you're pretty much recycling one of my comments... so...

    Can you actually leave it there? Can you? If so, thank you - I'll happily have the last word...

    ...but can you let me...?
    Last edited by Umbongo; 3rd January 2020 at 14:45.

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    You'd never guess this forum is mainly populated by educated middle-class adults.

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    I see logic in keeping the real thing safe but no logic in buying a replica then telling people you have the real thing at home.

    If you worked on a farm, you would most probably go out and buy a quad and not a Ducati. G-shock all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Hotel View Post
    You'd never guess this forum is mainly populated by educated middle-class adults.
    Educated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Educated?
    Adults?

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    Irony.
    It's just democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    Even Rolex make cheap copies of their watches. They call them Tudor.
    Hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spesh View Post
    When I'm out on my road bike or doing any sort of work where I may damage and of my expensive watches, I wear a £20 Casio A163WA-1QES
    But where's the fun in that??? You appear to be behaving rationally, forgetting that WISdom is the most irrational thing on the planet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrGrumpy View Post
    But where's the fun in that??? You appear to be behaving rationally, forgetting that WISdom is the most irrational thing on the planet!
    I thought the most irrational thing on the planet was that Pluto got downgraded to a planetoid from a full-fledged planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrGrumpy View Post
    But where's the fun in that??? You appear to be behaving rationally, forgetting that WISdom is the most irrational thing on the planet!
    Because you associate WISdom with wearing fakes? A simple and cheap but genuine Casio is much more in line with WISdom that fakes in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Educated?
    Middle class ....what is that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by inspector gadget View Post
    Middle class ....what is that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    Because you associate WISdom with wearing fakes? .
    Errr...No! Where did I say or even vaguely imply that???

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrGrumpy View Post
    Errr...No! Where did I say or even vaguely imply that???
    It's called context. In a thread called 'Would you wear a 'Replica' Rolex - Like this guy?, Spesh said that if what he was going to do risked damaging a valuable watch, he preferred to use a cheap Casio (= rather than wear a fake, which is the excuse used in the OP's example).
    Memento Mori

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Hotel View Post
    You'd never guess this forum is mainly populated by educated middle-east adults.
    FTFY (for the time being)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    It's called context. In a thread called 'Would you wear a 'Replica' Rolex - Like this guy?, Spesh said that if what he was going to do risked damaging a valuable watch, he preferred to use a cheap Casio (= rather than wear a fake, which is the excuse used in the OP's example).
    Yes, that's what the thread was about, but in my post I said nothing whatsoever about fakes, either pro or anti. Personally I'd expect a proper WIS to wear something rather more exotic or interesting in any context rather than a sensible Casio or a dodgy fake.

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    I can accept thatís what you meant but I suggest you make it more explicit next time. In the context, advocating against the choice of a real (if humble) watch meant, at least to me, that you were advocating the alternative, i.e. a fake.
    Memento Mori

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    me, i'm not into fakes, but i'm also inclined not to get too down on what other people place on their wrist - i'm sure they have their reasons.

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