I’d pick something else from the box for those high risk occasions rather than but money in the hands of a faker.
The chap in question is clearly a show off who needs to wear a Rolex on his wrist constantly, when asked if real he replies, “the real ones at home”
Fakes are big problem as now they are so called super clones, you can buy one for £500 knowing it’s fake. Fraudsters put them up for sale as genuine.
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I’d pick something else from the box for those high risk occasions rather than but money in the hands of a faker.
The many millions of pounds/dollars the counterfeiting industry funnels into criminal gangs is precisely the point. It funds all manner of violent, corrupting and inhumane activity and erodes at the safe and proper functioning of society. Wearing a fake watch isn't the problem, buying one is.
Very interesting, fake goods no matter what they are are not victim less, interesting quote at 4.38.
I think the vast majority of the public couldn't give a tinkers cuss about Rolex, fake or otherwise. Watch fanatics, and those who covet such things are in a minority I think.
However saying "Remember I’m not ridiculing anyone with an interest in watches, but the seemingly desperate clamour to own something with ‘Rolex’ on it.." points to Rolex ownership being somewhat flawed and less 'honourable' than ownership of other brands. Because owners are obviously 'desperately clamouring' to own one for all the wrong reasons!
Obviously this would only upset Rolex 'fanboys' like me! (although I am a Seiko and Omega fanboy as well at certain times of day! )
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It’s interesting this fake watch thread.
Those who support the wearing of a fake piece of junk on their wrist just because it has the magic R word on the dial..
Are they any more ridiculous than those willing to pay 2 or 3 times RRP again just so they can have that seemingly magical Rolex piece..
it’s all very odd to us old farts who purchased their Rolex probably at a discount on rrp many years ago before all the hype and nonsense started.
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That’s not what I’m saying - the general public don’t know anything about watches but many will know that Rolex are valuable watches (before people here got into watches we probably thought they were the most expensive watches you can get) which is why other people who want to show off buy them (or fake ones) because they want to look like they can afford a ‘nice watch’ that people will recognise.
Again before you guys come at me with pitchforks we of course know that they are indeed nice watches and understand them on a much deeper level than your average used car salesman. But it puts me off, at least - maybe some others, too - but I bet it means they sell more watches to non WIS than actual watch enthusiasts who end up paying over the odds because of the situation we now find ourselves in because of the unique brand position enjoyed by the brand.
And that’s why fakes exist.
In my experience, virtually every bloke lve ever spoken to - builders, joiners and engineers, food production workers, auto mechanics, sales staff, bar staff, blokes on trains and aircraft, in bars... you get the picture...has some opinion to express when asked about rolex - more than any other brand.
Most often "flash gits wear them, or old men, or footballers, or Arfur Daley"... lm not sure if this stems from culture or jealousy, Or that they're "the best watch you can buy" or "A sign youre doing well" etc.
If lm honest and, sure, l only draw off 25 years or so of actually noticing, a lot of opinion is negative.
I get why.
I have come to just get on with it, enjoy mine, laugh at the blinkered fanboys and equally the blinkered haters.
Both are exactly as bad as the other! I've been both!
In life most people and things have more than one reputation... and most reputations are deserved in some way.
Edit... Always strange that many a hater will happily wear a fake though... lm.sure a lottery win would lead to multiple purchases of the real thing!
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Real, fake or homage the Instagram fed Only Way is Essex/Made in Chelsea/Geordie Shore look is a DayDate, DateJust or similar on a bracelet, men and women wear these as its a real flash of wealth but also has an understated class about it, the general public want the same so the only way to pull off the look is buy a fake or homage.
Really we're all just a bunch of sheep!
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they faked led lenser torches hence the bad reviews on Amazon, they will fake anything.
Ooh Jesus! Im out! You just crossed the line!
Here come the "advertising and marketing don't affect me ...l just buy what l like". Squadron
They're right of course ... if they were born in the deepest amazon and had never seen a tv or a wristwatch they'd still want a rolex, or whatever their chosen brand... in fact they'd dress exactly the same as they do now...obviously! They just KNOW what they want and don't care what anyone thinks!
Edit. Ooh, l never noticed that before... their approach sounds like the drone of ww2 bombers. Cool!
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Haters gonna hate.
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I wouldn't wear a real one, so no...
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You apparently have spent your life canvassing people’s opinions on Rolex watches. How convenient.
And yet I cannot recall hearing anyone in the general public refer to ‘fake Rolex’ outside this and other watch forums. I must lead a sheltered life.
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No.
You said. "But 'Fake Rolex' is a phrase which has become modern parlance by the general public." For that to be true the general public would have to use the phrase. And I've never heard them do it. Anywhere.
If you said "used car salesman with a fake Gucci watch" it would be no less 'understood'.
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OK well if you’ve never heard anyone say ‘fake Rolex’ then I suppose I must be wrong then, with you being the arbiter of common language and all. I stand corrected. Next time I am describing a ‘used car stereotype’ I’ll say they guy with the fake Moser & Cie’ and see everyone giggle, shall I?
Now read this and feel free to edit the ‘modern infringers’ section as you see fit. Or read it and wind your neck in.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterfeit_watch
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It was you who set yourself up as the ‘arbiter of common language and all..’, I simply questioned what you were telling us.
And perhaps you could quote the part from Wikipedia you’re referring to as I don’t see anything supporting your views except the fact it says there are fake Rolex’s. It also says other makes are faked as well.
Perhaps you’re the one who should ‘wind your neck in’.
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Ok...very early on in the Wikipedia entry. Almost at the start... where it says that rolex are most commonly counterfeited due to the brand profile... or words very clearly to that effect.
That bit.
It's just a fact of life... l wouldn't be taking it as something to get worked up about... quite the opposite. It attests to the brands desirability that it is the most faked by a fair margin, though ld never buy, sell or wear a counterfeit product myself, for obvious reasons.
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Hardly, given you said..."In my experience, virtually every bloke lve ever spoken to - builders, joiners and engineers, food production workers, auto mechanics, sales staff, bar staff, blokes on trains and aircraft, in bars... you get the picture...has some opinion to express when asked about rolex"
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Which words to that effect?
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Maybe time to continue this ‘conversation; to the BP - its moved into personal attack sometime ago? See you there..
The race to the bottom - what a great way to start the year.
Jesus..the blue crayons out.... and the forum constabulary!
You read words very well, but not meaning...
This exchange will go nowhere. In the impossible event God arrived and told you you were wrong you'd tell him he was wrong and quote him in blue crayola.
Off for brekkie now!
Life beckons!
I certainly won't be off to the bear pit! Haha! That would just be stirring.
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Oh come on! A surprisingly large chunk of the general population has bought a ludicrously cheap fake Rolex when on holiday at one time or other (for a laugh), people having fake Rolexs is frequently mentioned in the written media and in TV comedies etc. As people say these days, 'Its a thing'!!!
"Fake Rolex."
Yes, i have heard it. Friends at work used it to me when i wore my un named chinese watch of a similar style so the term is out there being used. Just because some one has not heard it being used is not really relevant.
As to wearing one. No, i would get a nice homage from Steinhart and save a butt load. So for me it is the homage route, it really is only a watch after all.
Sweeping comments like the fact the phrase doesn’t exist because you’ve not heard it? It’s not my fault you had to argue yourself into a corner. Not everyone agrees with you because you’re flat wrong, as I tried to point out several posts ago. My tree surgeon comment was a joke so you can add ‘no sense of humour’ to your CV too. Have a great 2020!
If it was a joke you might consider going to humour classes an urgent new year resolution.
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Glad to hear it. It’s difficult to tell when we’re reading comments written down rather than spoken face to face.
I have no dog in this fight, but just to say ordinary people do wear fake or replica watches. When I was working several people had them, people used to bring them back from holidays and one guy even used to take orders when he was going away.
Right or wrong, your average Joe does wear them. Just check out FB Marketplace and see how many are listed.
Last edited by Umbongo; 1st January 2020 at 11:28. Reason: Double negative alert!
I don’t think you meant what you wrote... (double negative)
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'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
The disagreement has moved to whether ‘fake Rolex’ was common parlance. I am not sure it is to be fair, but I can believe some people use it. The rest is opinion, and we all have one, too, so probably best to agree to disagree.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.