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    Why don't we all have a Bremont?

    Hi,

    like most of us here i live in the UK, and for once we have a brand which marketing strongly flags their watches to be made in Britain..

    (whether what they do makes it a true statement or not is irrelevant now)

    ..and i feel that should be a factor.. or a box ticked if you like.. that makes us like this brand.

    on a personal note, i think they're also beautifully designed watches, albeit with an off the shelf movement in it.. so..

    why don't we all have a Bremont?


    I'm asking as i want to be talked in/out of buying one..

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    Ive had two..
    And the design is a bit sameish across all of them for me, too much marketing and not enough watch.. I will revisit them one day but the over priced military limited editions and numerous bits of metal infused does not tick the box for me.. you can get a Sinn with a top grade ETA for a lot less


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    They just do absolutely nothing for me.
    I don’t like the design at all. In the price bracket I’d rather buy Tudor.

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    Any number of reasons: design, size, price, irrelevant (to me at least) tie-ins and marketing, ...

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    I don’t do Little Britain mentality and frankly don’t like the faux heritage branding.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lughugger View Post
    I don’t do Little Britain mentality and frankly don’t like the faux heritage branding.


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    You forgot the cheating about their in house movement BS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernard View Post
    You forgot the LYING about their in house movement BS...
    FTFY

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    FTFY
    Thnx...

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    When I think of Bremont, I always think 'fur coat and no knickers'

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    Quote Originally Posted by lughugger View Post
    I don’t do Little Britain mentality and frankly don’t like the faux heritage branding.


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    This.

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    Why don't we all have a Bremont?

    Another vote for the dislike of fake heritage.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lughugger View Post
    I don’t do Little Britain mentality and frankly don’t like the faux heritage branding.


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    No pride in the country that provides a place for you to live your life on then???

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmonaco View Post
    No pride in the country that provides a place for you to live your life on then???
    You can have pride in various aspects of your country without having much love for rose-tinted marketing rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alansmithee View Post
    You can have pride in various aspects of your country without having much love for rose-tinted marketing rubbish.
    You posted this on a watch forum!
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    Why don't we all have a Bremont?

    Quote Originally Posted by redmonaco View Post
    No pride in the country that provides a place for you to live your life on then???
    Had a little end-of-week livener, have you? To answer your question, I refuse to subscribe to a jingoistic sense of identity. Bremont marketing panders to those who do and to Top Gun/Bear Grylls fetishists.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lughugger View Post
    Had a little end-of-week livener, have you? To answer your question, I refuse to subscribe to a jingoistic sense of identity. Bremont marketing panders to those who do and to Top Gun/Bear Grylls fetishists.
    Really?

    You post at this time of night with that kind of posture in the post whilst having a pop at somebody.

    What is wrong with you and others throwing rocks on the public part of the forum that is supposed to be for people to enjoy watches?.
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    I’ve had 4 over the last few years, currently got 2, I like them, don’t buy any of the marketing bull and it is a bit cringe, but the watches are excellent, they are a bit samey when you look at the alt range, and I dislike the day/date movement models but it is rare that you hit jackpot with one of your first designs MB

    I loved pitch’s Wright flyer!!!

    Don’t understand the hate reallly

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    Interesting. I almost started a similar thread a few days ago.

    I’m a big fan of ‘British’ made. Clothing, shoes, etc. Whether or not that’s actually the case with Bremont is debatable and might be partly responsible for me not having one in my collection. The marketing is definitely a bit ‘meh’ but I just find it humorous, rather than off putting. I like the design of a lot of their watches though but agree with others re some degree of sameness. I’ve only ever seen one dealer with a large display of their watches and have to admit many looked very, very similar. I don’t think they are unique in that respect but maybe more than most? The ones I really like are also based on a case size that is just too big for me.

    So, overall, much as I’d like one and I will keep an eye out for one at some point, it’s just not quite what I want right now.


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    With recent political developments some of us are shamed by Britishness or more specifically the portrayal of a specific type of Britishness that lives in the past and is based on a false representation of historical glories. Added to this that Bremont had no relationship with this past as it didn't even exist so it comes across as naff. Oh and also the fact you'd need your head tested if you went for a Supermarine over an Omega Seamaster 300.

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    I think those of us who like them do.

    As much as I agree with Ryan’s comment on the Seamaster above, once you have a Seamaster, or indeed a box full of them, then why not try something else.

    Some of their designs work, and in this watch world we live in, even look unique - I only have one at present, but would like another if the right model/price comes up I’ll buy.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Have an MB2 orange in the collection and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegamanic View Post
    I think those of us who like them do.....once you have a Seamaster, or indeed a box full of them, then why not try something else.

    Funny, in the last 2 weeks I have bought a new seamaster and another bremont. A few years ago I hadn’t even looked at bremonts at all but i’m glad I have. Having been on the factory tour I like what they do even more. I now own one of the early Swiss made made norton bremonts released in 2009, and have recently added one of the 62 iom TT watches bremont made as they became official timing partner of the TT this year. Love the look and limited run on both of these, i’ll Be very very unlikely to ever bump in to someone wearing one of these. I can’t say that about my seamaster or Submariner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tz-uk73 View Post
    Funny, in the last 2 weeks I have bought a new seamaster and another bremont. A few years ago I hadn’t even looked at bremonts at all but i’m glad I have. Having been on the factory tour I like what they do even more. I now own one of the early Swiss made made norton bremonts released in 2009, and have recently added one of the 62 iom TT watches bremont made as they became official timing partner of the TT this year. Love the look and limited run on both of these, i’ll Be very very unlikely to ever bump in to someone wearing one of these. I can’t say that about my seamaster or Submariner.
    Agree.

    Some don’t appreciate that others have different tastes and don’t want to follow the herd (Seamaster vs Supermarine).

    There are probably 2-3 models of Bremont I’d own. The rest of the range are fairly bland.

    You can’t ignore the big following Bremont have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    With recent political developments some of us are shamed by Britishness or more specifically the portrayal of a specific type of Britishness that lives in the past and is based on a false representation of historical glories. Added to this that Bremont had no relationship with this past as it didn't even exist so it comes across as naff. Oh and also the fact you'd need your head tested if you went for a Supermarine over an Omega Seamaster 300.

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    Absolutely this. Spot on.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Oh and also the fact you'd need your head tested if you went for a Supermarine over an Omega Seamaster 300.
    Nailed it.

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    Forget the price ( bit hopeful)

    This is Bremont to me.....


    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bremont-M...e594%7Ciid%3A1

    If you like it you like it........

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    Sensible raincoat, more like

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    I love this watch, and hope it always stays with me.

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    I own four Bremont’s, well made quality watches that you either get, or you don’t, and that’s fine as there are a lot of manufacturers in the price bracket that I wouldn’t go near either.

    The Alt1 is a classic chrono, the MB range is the signature Bremont and I also bought a S300 as the proportions are totally different and I enjoy wearing it.

    As for the marketing, I find it a little OTT...but look at Omega, limited editions of 7,000 watches (!), moon watches when I’m not convinced Neil and Buzz were actually there or the Bond special editions.....go to other brands like Tudor and your ambassador is Beckham and Lady Gaga, every brand has their faults!

    Anyway, I will also be buying a U2-51 in the new year, as again, I like it and it’s really well finished, in the meantime, here’s the collection




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    I quite like them

    If your watches are powered by 3rd part movements, something there is no shame in for a young company like Bremont , then what you have got to go for is good design, and not get too ambitious with price. Overall I think they are too expensive, but in design terms the MB2 is quite brilliant.

    I would echo the advice of get an orange MB2, and that’s Bremont done.

    The dive watches are generic and not good value compared with Omega and Tudor. The ALT-C/Z series are good, but need 2mm off their diameter, and a more realistic price

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    It is indeed disappointing to see how Britons view Brenont.

    Purely from a horological point of view, Bremont Supermarine makes it to my top five divers list. Current models, excluding BP,Panerais,JLC,AP

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    It is indeed disappointing to see how Britons view Brenont.

    Purely from a horological point of view, Bremont Supermarine makes it to my top five divers list. Current models, excluding BP,Panerais,JLC,AP

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    More disappointing to me is how Britons view Britain...

    Still, we always have had a propensity to apologise.

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    Aside from the marketing bull i think they make good quality watches with interesting designs, would try a used one in the future

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    I think it's all been said above but for me the things putting me off are

    No desire for the brand
    Too big
    Too bling
    Priced in line with other stuff which is more my cup of tea

    They don't offend me or anything but you have to want any watch let alone one costing £000's

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    This. I think the Arrow is absolutely stunning.

    Quote Originally Posted by ac11111 View Post
    Aside from the marketing bull i think they make good quality watches with interesting designs, would try a used one in the future

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    I do like some of the Bremont watches especially the chronos but and it's a big but, they're in the same price category as omega, tudor and to some degree rolex.. I wouldn't overlook any of these to get a bremont

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    I think the look good but the majority are too big for my liking. I would consider a Solo but would prefer some other watches ta that price point. I'm neither annoyed or not enthused by their marketing, but I like that they are trying, in their own way, to resurrect British watch manufacturing.

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    I've looked-on in admiration at Bremont but never indulged - they make a number of designs I like, but nothing so far that I love to the extent that their prices demand I should.

    As others have implied, no matter how good they are - they are British, so British people will hate them if they fail, and hate them even more if they succeed - you could call it "Lewis Hamilton Syndrome"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scucivolo View Post
    Hi,

    like most of us here i live in the UK, and for once we have a brand which marketing strongly flags their watches to be made in Britain..

    (whether what they do makes it a true statement or not is irrelevant now)

    ..and i feel that should be a factor.. or a box ticked if you like.. that makes us like this brand.

    on a personal note, i think they're also beautifully designed watches, albeit with an off the shelf movement in it.. so..

    why don't we all have a Bremont?


    I'm asking as i want to be talked in/out of buying one..

    Thank you, Claudio.


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    They've always looked a little bland to me. Nothing against them, and can see they're well made and seem to have a good following.

    I'd love to see them create something a little out there / special. Mostly because, as you say, it's made over here and we should probably like them more than we do because of that...

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    I just can’t get past the marketing. It’s one of the very few brands whose name I can’t go beyond, because I feel their fake heritage switches my interest right off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alasdairmc View Post
    I just can’t get past the marketing. It’s one of the very few brands whose name I can’t go beyond, because I feel their fake heritage switches my interest right off.
    My thoughts as well

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    I had an MB1.5 & a Supermarine S500/BL - both nice watches





    I quite like the recent Supermarine 300 & the Boeing watches, but I don't feel the need to have one in the collection right now.
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    I don’t own a Bremont and am unlikely to. However based on fleeting glances during lightening forays in to the Bentall’s centre in Kingston (not a place to hover), I think the Bremonts in Chisholm Hunter scrub up quite well in comparison to displays of other brands. What does strike me, bearing in mind what they are selling, is how drab and unappealing the displays and stores like Chisholm Hunter and Fraser Hart are.


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    I sincerely think that this awful brand will not stand the test of time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artium View Post
    I sincerely think that this awful brand will not stand the test of time
    They’re already established, this isn’t Kickstarter. Once they get the in house movement developed, a lot of cautious potential buyers will be tempted

    But thanks for your carefully detailed critique all the same


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    Quote Originally Posted by peterdo View Post
    They’re already established, this isn’t Kickstarter. Once they get the in house movement developed, a lot of cautious potential buyers will be tempted

    But thanks for your carefully detailed critique all the same


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    Given this post was from 2014 how soon do you think they will introduce their own movement?
    Quote Originally Posted by kildareman View Post
    Bremont are introducing their own movement this year.
    Seems like a long time coming. :-)

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    I have two, one for sale.

    I love the case design. I think the first Supermarine was brilliant, love the crown guard.

    I have a Submariner and the new Seamaster.

    Would I buy a new Bremont? No, used however they are a good option.

    I dont care about marketing, I like well made watches.

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    I think it’s interesting how A watch brand can evoke such strong emotion. There are brands I completely look over and look past, there are brands I would probably never buy because I can’t afford them, but I never say never. Take longines as an example, a brand I would always ignore, but then they released the legend diver and the 1973 which both really appealed.

    Like I said earlier with bremont, I never really noticed them but then I bought a norton motorbike and stumbled across the brand. I then did the factory tour and admired their pursuit of quality and their ambition. Then I just look at some of the designs and really like quite a few of them. I think they’re getting it right. If we all liked the same brand and only the same it would be a very boring hobby.

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    Why is it fake?


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    Quote Originally Posted by peterdo View Post
    Why is it fake?


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    Because Bremont portrays itself as an integral part of British military equipment both in the past and today. It transpires that this assertion is, in fact, bollocks

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