closing tag is in template navbar
timefactors watches



TZ-UK Fundraiser
Results 1 to 44 of 44

Thread: BBC Christmas Carol

  1. #1
    Craftsman T1ckT0ck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Norwich, Norfolk
    Posts
    827

    BBC Christmas Carol

    Well that was much better than i was expecting... looking forward to the two remaining episodes.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  2. #2
    Master Arcam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    1,259
    Agreed, enough of a change from the normal production to warrant a watch, the opening screen sets the tone quite well.

    Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk

  3. #3
    Grand Master Chinnock's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Essex
    Posts
    10,226
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcam View Post
    Agreed, enough of a change from the normal production to warrant a watch, the opening screen sets the tone quite well.

    Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
    Great intro. Love the line “It was meant to be rest in peace”

  4. #4
    Master
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    2,973
    Blog Entries
    1
    I'm recording it for Christmas Day.

    Maybe a daft question but all the blurb said it's very much an adult retelling, so before I sit down with my elderly mother to watch is there any bad language?

  5. #5
    Master Arcam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    1,259
    Quote Originally Posted by pete-r View Post
    I'm recording it for Christmas Day.

    Maybe a daft question but all the blurb said it's very much an adult retelling, so before I sit down with my elderly mother to watch is there any bad language?
    Yes, one or two f**k mentions.

    Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk

  6. #6

    BBC Christmas Carol

    Quote Originally Posted by pete-r View Post
    I'm recording it for Christmas Day.

    Maybe a daft question but all the blurb said it's very much an adult retelling, so before I sit down with my elderly mother to watch is there any bad language?
    Yes F-word.

    I didn’t think much of it. It’s a short seasonal tale, and I don’t think the BBC’s adult retelling or drawing it out adds to or improves the story.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
    Last edited by BillyCasper; 23rd December 2019 at 11:42.

  7. #7
    Master
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Location
    Bury, UK
    Posts
    2,338
    My 9 yr old wont be watching it then. She can stick with the Patrick Stewart version if it's on. Wish he had recorded his one man version which I was privileged to see some years back.

  8. #8
    Grand Master learningtofly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Everywhere & nowhere, baby
    Posts
    37,569
    I really enjoyed it, especially after the War of The Worlds fiasco. Can’t wait for episode 2.

  9. #9
    Master
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    North Wales
    Posts
    4,090
    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    I really enjoyed it, especially after the War of The Worlds fiasco. Can’t wait for episode 2.
    Totally agree Tony , war of the worlds was amateurish compared to this. Im liking the surely Bob Cratchett.

  10. #10
    Master Arcam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    1,259
    Quote Originally Posted by higham5 View Post
    Totally agree Tony , war of the worlds was amateurish compared to this. Im liking the surely Bob Cratchett.
    Non keen on his wife so far.

    Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk

  11. #11
    Master
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Wolverhampton
    Posts
    4,232
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCasper View Post
    Yes F-word.

    I didn’t think much of it. It’s a short seasonal tale, and I don’t think the BBC’s adult retelling or drawing it out adds to or improves the story.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
    Agree.

    BBC are starting to lose the plot in some areas. Maybe they will have a 'Modern Dance' routine like the last episode in Giri/Haji. Wtf was that all about?

  12. #12
    Grand Master learningtofly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Everywhere & nowhere, baby
    Posts
    37,569
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcam View Post
    Non keen on his wife so far.

    Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
    What did she burn - I didn’t catch that?

  13. #13
    Master Arcam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    1,259
    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    What did she burn - I didn’t catch that?
    A letter BC had written to someone in Australia, she was off to catch the "last post"

    Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk

  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Smith View Post
    Agree.

    BBC are starting to lose the plot in some areas. Maybe they will have a 'Modern Dance' routine like the last episode in Giri/Haji. Wtf was that all about?
    Nice song


    https://youtu.be/2xVXVqT-GdE




    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

  15. #15
    Grand Master snowman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Hampshire
    Posts
    14,551
    Really? I thought it was dire. Boring, slow and rather tedious.

    Same old, same old with a few swear words thrown in to push it over the watershed...reminded me of Torchwood.

    Swearing alone doesn't make something Adult, it makes it adolescent...

    M

    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
    Breitling Cosmonaute 809 - What's not to like?

  16. #16
    Master
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    2,973
    Blog Entries
    1
    Quote Originally Posted by snowman View Post
    Swearing alone doesn't make something Adult, it makes it adolescent...

    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
    Couldn't agree more. I think it shows a lack of imagination of what makes something grown up.

    They can make things scary and dark without the language. I thought the Jim Carey one is quite dark for kids but still family friendly.

    Look at Jaws. One of the scariest films ever made and no real gore or language.

  17. #17
    Grand Master learningtofly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Everywhere & nowhere, baby
    Posts
    37,569
    Quote Originally Posted by pete-r View Post
    Couldn't agree more. I think it shows a lack of imagination of what makes something grown up.

    They can make things scary and dark without the language. I thought the Jim Carey one is quite dark for kids but still family friendly.

    Look at Jaws. One of the scariest films ever made and no real gore or language.
    Jaws was made 45 years ago. You may still be living in the seventies but for most of us times have moved on.

  18. #18
    Grand Master Andyg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Wiltshire
    Posts
    24,924
    Quote Originally Posted by snowman View Post
    Swearing alone doesn't make something Adult, it makes it adolescent...

    M

    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

    Agreed. Plus it can also make it tiresome.

    Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
    Friedrich Nietzsche


  19. #19
    Grand Master Andyg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Wiltshire
    Posts
    24,924
    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Jaws was made 45 years ago. You may still be living in the seventies but for most of us times have moved on.

    Maybe, but do you think it would have been better if they tossed in the odd Motherfu*ker, C*nt, etc, for effect?

    personally I don't simply because I would have been unable to watch it until I was 18, rather than having the crap scared out of me at 15
    Last edited by Andyg; 23rd December 2019 at 18:17.

    Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
    Friedrich Nietzsche


  20. #20
    Grand Master learningtofly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Everywhere & nowhere, baby
    Posts
    37,569
    Quote Originally Posted by Andyg View Post
    Maybe, but do you think it would have been better if they tossed in the odd Motherfu*ker, C*nt, etc, for effect?

    personally I don't simply because I would have been unable to watch it until I was 18, rather than having the crap scared out of me at 15
    I still remember my first ever AA. George Segal and Glenda Jackson in A touch of Class (no idea what my thinking was, tbh).

  21. #21
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Jan 2019
    Location
    Ireland
    Posts
    390
    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Jaws was made 45 years ago. You may still be living in the seventies but for most of us times have moved on.
    Yes, it was made 45 years ago, well done on regurgitating facts from Google that have no real relation on the point thst was being well made.

    I also think modern movies rely too much on gore and profanity. Sure, add it if it's warranted, but not for the sake of it.

  22. #22
    Grand Master learningtofly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Everywhere & nowhere, baby
    Posts
    37,569
    Yes, I did use Google to check when it was released, and no - that isn’t irrelevant.

  23. #23
    Grand Master Rod's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Co. Durham
    Posts
    10,249
    It was a good production and I'll watch the rest. I have to agree with others that the swearing wasn't necessary. LGBT wasn't on our screens 45 years so maybe the liberal Beeb will scene some in this production just for the sake of it... well we have to move on with the times don't we?

  24. #24
    Master
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    North Wales
    Posts
    4,090
    Episode 2 definitely not one for sensitive, quite a bit of swearing
    Last edited by higham5; 24th December 2019 at 16:27.

  25. #25
    Grand Master snowman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Hampshire
    Posts
    14,551
    If they wanted to update it, why didn't they set it in the office of some evil trader, with an overworked intern?

    Plenty of scope for a modern Christmas Carol, I'd have thought.

    Modernised sweariness would've made sense then, rather than seeming like a sat nav bolted to a stagecoach...

    Anyway, I didn't bother tonight.

    M

    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
    Last edited by snowman; 23rd December 2019 at 23:38.
    Breitling Cosmonaute 809 - What's not to like?

  26. #26
    Master
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Brum
    Posts
    2,223
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcam View Post
    A letter BC had written to someone in Australia, she was off to catch the "last post"

    Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
    It was to her fictional cousin in America, all explained in episode 2. I didn’t find the swearing unnecessary or offensive, in fact I find the portrayal of genuinely angry men that don’t swear somewhat unrealistic.

  27. #27
    Grand Master learningtofly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Everywhere & nowhere, baby
    Posts
    37,569
    Quote Originally Posted by Maris View Post
    It was to her fictional cousin in America, all explained in episode 2. I didn’t find the swearing unnecessary or offensive, in fact I find the portrayal of genuinely angry men that don’t swear somewhat unrealistic.
    Thanks, and agreed!

  28. #28
    Grand Master learningtofly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Everywhere & nowhere, baby
    Posts
    37,569
    Anyone else notice the mistake when the sash windows in Scrooge’s house mysteriously opened by themselves?

  29. #29
    Master Thewatchbloke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Oxfordshire UK
    Posts
    7,243
    I spotted that too, the both the top and bottom lights shot right up presumably into the wall!

  30. #30
    Master PhilipK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Hampshire, UK
    Posts
    4,223
    I enjoyed it more than i was expecting. I didn't find the swearing overly obtrusive or gratuitous.

  31. #31
    Anyone else think Pierce is channelling 'Withnail' in his dress, look and performance..

  32. #32
    Master Tazmo61's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Location
    England
    Posts
    1,948
    We enjoyed it and looking forward to the next episode .

  33. #33
    Master
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Driffield, UK
    Posts
    3,122
    Usual BBC PC rubbish.

    Sorry but a coloured wife? In 1842... I think not.
    Ging daughter... where did that come from? Milkman maybe?
    and would an employee really be that lippy to their employer 180+ years ago? I think not.
    Oh and the usual everyone is covered in muck and poo but has fantastic 21st century teeth.

    Has realism gone completely from BBC drama now?

    Watched the Albert Finney version instead. Even with the mass street dancing it was more believable!

    Humbug! ;-)

  34. #34
    Master
    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Location
    Kent UK
    Posts
    2,447
    I'm watching my favourite version now, The Muppet Christmas Carol.

  35. #35
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    South Wales
    Posts
    802
    .. always found that the muppet version had vast charm and only possibly bettered by the Patrick Stewart version if you wanted adherence to the original .. be interesting to see how they wrap up two ghosts in the one episode this evening though for this years retread..



    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  36. #36
    Grand Master Passenger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Cartagena, Spain
    Posts
    25,002
    Yup another fan of the Muppet version.

  37. #37
    Master
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    NW Leics
    Posts
    8,174
    Quote Originally Posted by vulcangascompany View Post
    Anyone else think Pierce is channelling 'Withnail' in his dress, look and performance..
    Funny you should say that; while watching the second one I was thinking that Richard E Grant would have been a better choice. A bit more personality.

    I must say though, Mike from Neighbours does act well these days.

  38. #38
    Master steptoe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Putney
    Posts
    1,867
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilson_smyth View Post

    I also think modern movies rely too much on gore and profanity. Sure, add it if it's warranted, but not for the sake of it.
    That says more about your choice of viewing than it does about “modern” movies .

  39. #39
    Grand Master number2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    North and South.
    Posts
    30,676
    Well done BBC, enjoyed each episode, slightly different interpretation and even though a little darker than the usual offerings, got across the essential message of the Dickens novel.
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

    'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.

  40. #40
    Master wildheart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Essex - Hopefully on a golf course!
    Posts
    8,479
    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    Well done BBC, enjoyed each episode, slightly different interpretation and even though a little darker than the usual offerings, got across the essential message of the Dickens novel.
    Yea I thought that too


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

  41. #41
    Top stuff
    Really enjoyed it

  42. #42
    Grand Master number2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    North and South.
    Posts
    30,676
    Now looking forward to this next week.
    Dracula. BBC.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07rxf89
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

    'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.

  43. #43
    Master
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Location
    Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK
    Posts
    1,214
    Not seen this new version yet, but I’ve always loved the Blackadder Christmas Carol.

  44. #44
    Grand Master Chinnock's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Essex
    Posts
    10,226
    Very good and as a popular televised story, carried its interpretation very well indeed.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Do Not Sell My Personal Information