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    Recommend me a subwoofer?

    I know there are some on here who are in to their home cinema so thought I’d ask the question.

    Just bought a Sennheiser Ambeo soundbar and like my bass so would like to add a subwoofer for a bit more oomph!

    I’ve only really had a one box solution before so have no experience in this field, what is a decent one to go for? Don’t want to spend a fortune, just looking for one that packs a punch but also is aesthetically pleasing as it will be on show.

    Cheers!

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    Just bought an ex demo Accoustic energy 8" sub with it's own remote. Mine is coupled with a pair of bookshelf Q accoustic speakers for extra depth with stereo music.
    You may or may not need bigger than this for extra "room rumble" but I am very pleased with it.
    Bought from their ebay outlet for less than £150 saving at least £200 on new cost

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    Hi

    I have an AV set up in a home cinema room. Got a guy in the know to spec all my speakers telling him I wanted good stuff but didn’t want to spend a ridiculous amount. He recommended SVS as the best in sub-woofers. I have the previous model of the SVS PB1000 and happy with it. Was about £550.

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    I have an expensive SVS but if you’re looking for something on a budget BK Electronics really can’t be beaten. Made in the UK and sold direct so a bit of a bargain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod View Post
    REL the best out there period.
    I was hoping you’d contribute Rod!

    What model would you recommend to partner with the Ambeo? I don’t want to spend a fortune.

    What are your thoughts on the Ambeo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynar View Post
    I have an expensive SVS but if you’re looking for something on a budget BK Electronics really can’t be beaten. Made in the UK and sold direct so a bit of a bargain.
    Have you compared the two side by side? I ask as I'm looking to replaced a goosed MA RSW silver 12 sub woofer and I've been drawn towards SVS and BK but wonder if the SVS really is worth the premium over the BK's. I'm having trouble with the SVS website as the uk dealer website listed doesn't work now. I understand BK use the same speakers and components as REL
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    Quote Originally Posted by subseastu View Post
    Have you compared the two side by side? I ask as I'm looking to replaced a goosed MA RSW silver 12 sub woofer and I've been drawn towards SVS and BK but wonder if the SVS really is worth the premium over the BK's. I'm having trouble with the SVS website as the uk dealer website listed doesn't work now. I understand BK use the same speakers and components as REL
    I’m not sure BK use the same components as REL, but they have manufactured subs for several other brands including REL. I had a BK XXLS400 and now have an SVS SB13 Ultra. I didn’t compare them side by side and it would be unfair to do so as they’re not in the same bracket. The SVS is definitely better, but it should be as it’s a 13” driver with a 1000 watt amp compared to a 12” with 400 watts.
    Whether the difference is worth nearly four times the price is another matter. At their price point I don’t believe anything comes close to BK. One of the rare bargain finds in HiFi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilford View Post
    Just bought a Sennheiser Ambeo soundbar and like my bass so would like to add a subwoofer for a bit more oomph!
    Very nice! I have a Yamaha YAS-101 that impresses me. I think I would wet my sock listening to yours.

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    What about a B&W pv1d?


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    Don't know if throws a spanner in the works but I think personally I'm leaning towards one of these:

    http://www.epichomecinema.co.uk/Epic.../Sub12.17.html

    XTZ 12.17. Seem to get good reviews and bang for the buck. I'll be pairing with monitor audio radius 270 5.1 and yamaha amp.

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    I've just lost a long winded reply to this message (long enough that my login timed out and the message was lost in the sign in process). So here is the short version. You have a very capable soundbar. Given its output and your room placement, a single large subwoofer will work well. I would suggest the Paradigm Defiance X12 or the Martin Logan Dynamo 1600x, but any of the subs highlighted in orange on this chart should work fine, see page 4.

    https://www.audioholics.com/subwoofe...-07-21-19.xlsx

    There is a lot of talk here about small subwoofers. You know that flabby, tubby, unpleasant bassy sound you hear so often, that's distortion. What people describe as "tight bass", that's what a properly working subwoofer sounds like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subseastu View Post
    Don't know if throws a spanner in the works but I think personally I'm leaning towards one of these:

    http://www.epichomecinema.co.uk/Epic.../Sub12.17.html

    XTZ 12.17. Seem to get good reviews and bang for the buck. I'll be pairing with monitor audio radius 270 5.1 and yamaha amp.
    Jag has a really impressive home cinema/demo room that he built if you get to see it. I'd say these would be the last of the XTZ stuff he's got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esulp View Post
    Jag has a really impressive home cinema/demo room that he built if you get to see it. I'd say these would be the last of the XTZ stuff he's got.
    I've seen some of his posts on the AVforum. Seems a very helpful bloke. I'll be contacting him soon I think. I sent a mail to XTZ direct and the 12.17 is now discontinued replaced by the 12.17 edge but its a bit pricier.

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    Well, after much deliberation and research on various furrows I've gone for a BK P12-300SB-DF sub today.

    Great reviews and they haver an eBay store with Grade B but still a 2 year warranty and also 14 day no quibble return so it's a no brainer.

    Thanks for everyone help!

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    Take a look on Av forum. Alot of good information on there

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    I would speak to your local Audio T or similar and see if you can borrow one to try in your room when it's calibrated correctly.

    Setup is all important, a well set up £200 REL can outperform a badly set £3000 JL Audio with ease.

    I ran a Wilson Benesch Torus for a few weeks alongside my Discoveries and they hardly did anything in terms of outright workload, but the difference they made was enormous because the helped take the strain off the speakers.

    Had to buy a kitchen though... :(

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    I’d love something with an 18” driver, my wife might object to the size!

    Interesting read on here & certainly know where I will go once my MA RSW-12 gives up the ghost (already lost EQ2 and to fix is a £300+ amp....)

    Still works great though, so can’t justify a new one yet.

    Set up wise, I did the ‘sub where you sit’ technique, unfortunately the best location ended up near the entrance to the lounge, part blocking the door; guess what the wife said!

    Luckily second best was the other side of the sofa, a little too much in the corner though but these are the sacrifices you have to make. I did have it wonky so it wasn’t firing straight to a wall, but looked awful, so a large leather chair sits directly opposite now. Works great, but know it could get better.


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    I'll personally recommend the BK XLS200 which is supposed to be brilliant for the money.

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    Well, I've had "Man Flu" all weekend and have had plenty of time to play with this, it's superb, just like being in the cinema!

    Hat's off to BK, a cracking sub for the money, I cannot see how spending more would produce anything better (in my set up at least).

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