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    Thanks guys, really interesting replies. Perhaps a case of just because you can afford to buy something, doesn’t mean you can afford to own it.

    I’d go with a 911 purely as it technically has four seats and in theory you could put a child seat or two back. My brother in law has two kids and an MX-5 and it’s a total headache for everyone, although seemingly not for him.

    I’ve been looking at Day Dates and WG Subs and thought maybe I could just get a Porsche instead but the follow on costs are a bit higher than I thought. £500 per year on servicing is fine but £2.5k per year and I think I’d rather have half an OP41.

    I guess you can choose between repairs/preventative jobs or depreciation, but money is going to exit your wallet one way or another.

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    You won't really get away with £500 regularly on any model of Porsche of any age.
    My 944t has just ticked over 276k miles which makes it virtually unsaleable at any sort of sensible price but I use it daily, it's very reliable and I have a good indy to look after it.
    It cost a large sum to have rust cut out of the rear end a couple of years ago and I can see a little more at the front that needs attention. Usual maintenance and upkeep is about £1000 a year
    I look at it as depreciation free but running cost heavy. It's insured for more than I think it's worth but not necessarily more than it might cost to replace it, if that makes sense.

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    Don't give up that easy Wileeeeeey.

    Granted £500 p.a. will not do it. But equally, it doesn't need to be £2.5k either if you buy well.

    The 911s I have had have been some of the most reliable cars I have owned. However, I generally have bought from well-known specialists (meaning they arrive well prepped) and I have had them as a second or third car so no put many miles on them, which I think may be your situation too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Thanks guys, really interesting replies. Perhaps a case of just because you can afford to buy something, doesn’t mean you can afford to own it.

    I’d go with a 911 purely as it technically has four seats and in theory you could put a child seat or two back. My brother in law has two kids and an MX-5 and it’s a total headache for everyone, although seemingly not for him.

    I’ve been looking at Day Dates and WG Subs and thought maybe I could just get a Porsche instead but the follow on costs are a bit higher than I thought. £500 per year on servicing is fine but £2.5k per year and I think I’d rather have half an OP41.

    I guess you can choose between repairs/preventative jobs or depreciation, but money is going to exit your wallet one way or another.
    I doubt you would use the back seats on a 911 more than once Willey.
    Waste of time.
    Get a Cayman.

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    Anyone own a Porsche?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    I doubt you would use the back seats on a 911 more than once Willey.
    Waste of time.
    Get a Cayman.
    Cayman doesn’t do well when it comes to man maths / justifying to the wife I’m afraid Hood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    I doubt you would use the back seats on a 911 more than once Willey.
    Waste of time.
    Get a Cayman.
    100%, they are tiny...and the engine is better located (well, until you want to access anything!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss13 View Post
    Cayman doesn’t do well when it comes to man maths / justifying to the wife I’m afraid Hood.
    You're not Wiley!

    I went 981 CGTS as post test drives was smaller and more alive than a 911 for similar budgets. FIL has had the last 3 new 911s and whilst they are so much faster, they are also soooo much bigger and require more space on twisties. Was it this thread that had the old 911 vs cayman photo in it, that was insightful.

    Yes, I am a 981 fan lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    I doubt you would use the back seats on a 911 more than once Willey.
    Waste of time.
    Get a Cayman.
    I've got a 991. I bought it in 2015 when my daughter was 2 months old. I had another kid after her. We use the rear seats all the time. My daughter is 8 and my son is 6. I have them on boosters now but had them in rear facing seats, and baby seats in them. The seats for children are very useable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mj2k View Post
    100%, they are tiny...and the engine is better located (well, until you want to access anything!)



    You're not Wiley!

    I went 981 CGTS as post test drives was smaller and more alive than a 911 for similar budgets. FIL has had the last 3 new 911s and whilst they are so much faster, they are also soooo much bigger and require more space on twisties. Was it this thread that had the old 911 vs cayman photo in it, that was insightful.

    Yes, I am a 981 fan lol
    OK. For the same budget you could be right.

    But a similar generation 911 vs cayman is truly a no contest.

    Yes I’ve also used back seats of a 911 for child seats and adult passengers as have many others who are not Wileeeeeey.

    I am biased I admit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss13 View Post
    OK. For the same budget you could be right.

    But a similar generation 911 vs cayman is truly a no contest.

    Yes I’ve also used back seats of a 911 for child seats and adult passengers as have many others who are not Wileeeeeey.

    I am biased I admit.
    Agree on similar budget, but yes the 911 tech on same generation is more advanced for sure.

    It’s still larger than I like pushing on with the fun roads as for me it’s too big; to be fair it’s too wide especially the rear where his widens - think that aspect worries me tbh.

    Luckily can’t afford more than our cayman GTS and base Boxster. I want a 4.0 CGTS and she wants equivalent BGTS so so merging of cars or 911.

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    The interior of a £35k-40k Porsche is night and day on Cayman vs 911. Cayman much more appealing but two seats only. Not bothered about raw performance, I wouldn’t touch the sides re ability, just want a beautiful car with a nice sound.

    Always loved Porsches and was thinking recently the utility of money and having 8-10 watches Vs having 3-5 and a Porsche. Especially with a soulless Tesla and a lack of motorbike.

    Kids are in the plan and I’m wondering if it’s smart to get the Porsche in now as I’m doubtful I’ll be able to come home with one when she’s on maternity, seems like a Liberty. Maybe this is why people buy Cayennes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    The interior of a £35k-40k Porsche is night and day on Cayman vs 911. Cayman much more appealing but two seats only. Not bothered about raw performance, I wouldn’t touch the sides re ability, just want a beautiful car with a nice sound.

    Always loved Porsches and was thinking recently the utility of money and having 8-10 watches Vs having 3-5 and a Porsche. Especially with a soulless Tesla and a lack of motorbike.

    Kids are in the plan and I’m wondering if it’s smart to get the Porsche in now as I’m doubtful I’ll be able to come home with one when she’s on maternity, seems like a Liberty. Maybe this is why people buy Cayennes.
    If you can, you should.

    I purchased a 997 and still have it now, it doesn't get driven (100 miles per year if i'm lucky) as we have two young kids. I also have a new Cayenne which is our family car. Ironically the cayenne is a quick as the 997. But its a very different car! Find yourself a good indy that can do your servicing and your away!

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    Don’t buy a cayenne to scratch the 911 itch it won’t , I speak from experience. However the Macan is a great family car , lots and lots of fun.

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    I only have two cars and they are both 911 Turbos, so I am hugely biased towards them (I've been dragging my feet on buying a "sensible car" for a year now as I lack enthusiasm), but I would say currently the most undervalued Porsche of all is the 996 Turbo. Bulletproof Mezger engine, 4wd, more performance than you could ever ask for, and a genuinely pivotal car for the brand. Low mileage manuals (has to be!) for £45k.

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    One thing I don't think anyone has yet mentioned is that while a Cayman or Boxster is a sublime drive, unless you can stump up the cash for a 982 (ie the latest iteration) or 981 GT4 they are downright slow vs modern fast stuff, especially today's turbo hyper hatches. In a given generation, the 911 was always kept that bit quicker to maintain a kind of (artificial?) advantage so is less obviously from an earlier time and a less frustrating drive as a result. The 986, 987 and to a lesser extent 981 cars can in fact be quite disappointing in a straight line even in top S spec, with a chassis that could clearly take another 100hp. It is a different story with the latest turbo and 4l though, those are rapid. Oh and avoid the earlier torque convertor auto at all costs, cars fitted with those are out dragged by 320ds and trash their own engines in despair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padders View Post
    One thing I don't think anyone has yet mentioned is that while a Cayman or Boxster is a sublime drive, unless you can stump up the cash for a 982 (ie the latest iteration) or 981 GT4 they are downright slow vs modern fast stuff, especially today's turbo hyper hatches. In a given generation, the 911 was always kept that bit quicker to maintain a kind of (artificial?) advantage so is less obviously from an earlier time and a less frustrating drive as a result. The 986, 987 and to a lesser extent 981 cars can in fact be quite disappointing in a straight line even in top S spec, with a chassis that could clearly take another 100hp. It is a different story with the latest turbo and 4l though, those are rapid. Oh and avoid the earlier torque convertor auto at all costs, cars fitted with those are out dragged by 320ds and trash their own engines in despair.
    It's all about the sublime drive though isn't it? How it feels as you thread your way down an empty B road? If you want something for a drag race, buy a Tesla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    It's all about the sublime drive though isn't it? How it feels as you thread your way down an empty B road? If you want something for a drag race, buy a Tesla.
    I understand that viewpoint, but you are allowed to have both you know, handling and speed. It is not a Philistine belief to want both. There are only so many empty B roads where you can corner with your hair on fire so the other aspects of driving enjoyment are worthy of consideration.

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    I really like moderately powered light cars, but I must admit that I found the 987 2.7 Cayman Auto a friend had quite underwhelming. As Padders says, the chassis can clearly take a lot more power, which only highlights how underpowered it is. A hot hatch with that power would feel a lot more unruly and exciting. I think the auto box accounted for a lot of the disappointment as it didn't suit the "spirit" of that kind of car at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adigra View Post
    I really like moderately powered light cars, but I must admit that I found the 987 2.7 Cayman Auto a friend had quite underwhelming. As Padders says, the chassis can clearly take a lot more power, which only highlights how underpowered it is. A hot hatch with that power would feel a lot more unruly and exciting. I think the auto box accounted for a lot of the disappointment as it didn't suit the "spirit" of that kind of car at all.
    They improved things significantly with the 987 Gen 2 cars in many areas, including changing to PDK transmission

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    Quote Originally Posted by adigra View Post
    I really like moderately powered light cars, but I must admit that I found the 987 2.7 Cayman Auto a friend had quite underwhelming. As Padders says, the chassis can clearly take a lot more power, which only highlights how underpowered it is. A hot hatch with that power would feel a lot more unruly and exciting. I think the auto box accounted for a lot of the disappointment as it didn't suit the "spirit" of that kind of car at all.
    It is interesting, despite my 981 CGTS having more power and more ability to nip past slower cars when needed, the wife’s base 981 Boxster is often more fun as can wring out the gears more.

    Both are PDK, mine seems to give the thrills from blasting past or pushing on, whereas hers gives enjoyment from just hearing a 6cyl rev out. I suppose hers is the equivalent of a more powerful MX-5 in that respect.

    I did toy with a GT4 but found the road comfort compromised and not being someone likely to track the car due to not trusting my own ability / being seen as a target to overtake to prove a point. I can’t think what next for me though aside from the 4.0 GTS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    It's all about the sublime drive though isn't it? How it feels as you thread your way down an empty B road? If you want something for a drag race, buy a Tesla.
    I'd agree with that and after always buying the S version of any porsche I got, the two 981 Caymans I had were both base engines with the idea that you could actually use more of the cars available power before you hit silly speeds.

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    I have a 987 3.2 S Boxster as a weekend car and love it. So fun and engaging to drive with the top down. It's not as fast as my daily BMW 4 series, but feels faster and more exciting and the cornering is brilliant. I'm considering upgrading to a 987 Gen 2 as a keeper, though there is a big price difference.

    I like the look of the 981, but I'm really put off by the EPS. I haven't driven one in fairness, but I think I'm pretty sensitive to it and if it's function is as a fun car, I want as much feedback as possible. I'd def consider the PDK, the gearing is quite long in the manual, but this is a personal decision. I think the 987 Gen 2 Boxster is the sweet spot for me for a fun weekend car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mj2k View Post
    It is interesting, despite my 981 CGTS having more power and more ability to nip past slower cars when needed, the wife’s base 981 Boxster is often more fun as can wring out the gears more.

    Both are PDK, mine seems to give the thrills from blasting past or pushing on, whereas hers gives enjoyment from just hearing a 6cyl rev out. I suppose hers is the equivalent of a more powerful MX-5 in that respect.

    I did toy with a GT4 but found the road comfort compromised and not being someone likely to track the car due to not trusting my own ability / being seen as a target to overtake to prove a point. I can’t think what next for me though aside from the 4.0 GTS.
    By all accounts PDK is far superior to the Tiptronic. I've tried the PDK in a 991 GT3 and liked it, but not really a fair comparison to the 2.7 Cayman. In fairness also, the Cayman was in the US on really wide, straight roads; not really the ideal place for it to shine.

    I would really love a very early original, manual Boxster, and if I had more garage room I think it would be a wise choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalVilla View Post
    I have a 987 3.2 S Boxster as a weekend car and love it. So fun and engaging to drive with the top down. It's not as fast as my daily BMW 4 series, but feels faster and more exciting and the cornering is brilliant. I'm considering upgrading to a 987 Gen 2 as a keeper, though there is a big price difference.

    I like the look of the 981, but I'm really put off by the EPS. I haven't driven one in fairness, but I think I'm pretty sensitive to it and if it's function is as a fun car, I want as much feedback as possible. I'd def consider the PDK, the gearing is quite long in the manual, but this is a personal decision. I think the 987 Gen 2 Boxster is the sweet spot for me for a fun weekend car.
    Quote Originally Posted by adigra View Post
    By all accounts PDK is far superior to the Tiptronic. I've tried the PDK in a 991 GT3 and liked it, but not really a fair comparison to the 2.7 Cayman. In fairness also, the Cayman was in the US on really wide, straight roads; not really the ideal place for it to shine.

    I would really love a very early original, manual Boxster, and if I had more garage room I think it would be a wise choice.
    As Royal mentions, the manuals seem slightly too long in the gears, I didn't get on with it despite wanting manual.

    Luckily there seem to be more PDKs to choose from as it seems a rare choice to have a 6 speed stick.

    Some days I wish I had one. Still not brave enough to use the PDK stick vs the paddles as have had too many BMWs where the stick works the "correct" way around!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mj2k View Post
    As Royal mentions, the manuals seem slightly too long in the gears, I didn't get on with it despite wanting manual.

    Luckily there seem to be more PDKs to choose from as it seems a rare choice to have a 6 speed stick.

    Some days I wish I had one. Still not brave enough to use the PDK stick vs the paddles as have had too many BMWs where the stick works the "correct" way around!
    I really disliked the manual gear ratios in the 981 GT4 around our unrestricted roads. Just didn’t feel right to me. Whereas every version of the 718 with a pdk that I’ve tried feels rapid. So for a modern Boxster or Cayman I’d only choose the PDK. In the 911 I’d be torn, but have a preference for the PDK, as it’s just that good.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    I have a 981 cayman s that has a lot of options. It’s a weekend car and I love it. There are some items that could be costly out of warranty such as seized exhaust actuators and active engine mounts but if you are aware of these then ok. Mine is a PDK and it’s an incredible gearbox. When paired with sports chrono with the various driving modes it’s incredible and transforms the car.

    Being a 2013 I’ll be using Porsche independents for servicing which is every 2 years so even a 1k ish service is only 500 ish per year. I think that’s decent.

    The build quality and practicality is amazing for the size of the car. I like it so much I’ll be buying another cayman in a few years. Ideally a GT4.

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    Had my old 911 for 12 years. Used on quite a few track days in that time. I maintained it all through my ownership. Never had a single fault or problem in all that time. Wish I still owned it.
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    Would it still be prudent to have a PPI on those being sold by 911Virgin?

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    Just picked up my 2005 997.1 C2S from its two-year service at an Independent.

    £300 for a minor service (I supplied the oil, which was almost another £100).

    That said, it needs two new tyres (advisory on the MOT this week) and the front shocks need replacing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bins View Post
    Would it still be prudent to have a PPI on those being sold by 911Virgin?
    No harm and yes prudent.

    But they are one of the most renowned dealers in the country. I have dealt with them and they are great. They do things properly.

    Another I would highly recommend is RSJ.

    Have purchased there and didn’t bother with PPI. They prepare correctly and warranty the car themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    Just picked up my 2005 997.1 C2S from its two-year service at an Independent.

    £300 for a minor service (I supplied the oil, which was almost another £100).

    That said, it needs two new tyres (advisory on the MOT this week) and the front shocks need replacing.
    What is involved in a minor service? Oil and filter and a general inspection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bins View Post
    Would it still be prudent to have a PPI on those being sold by 911Virgin?
    I bought in the past without - they are very diligent and have a very open/professional approach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noTAGlove View Post
    What is involved in a minor service? Oil and filter and a general inspection?
    Oil, filters, drive belt, brake fluid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Bumping an old thread, apologies.

    I keep seeing 911s on AutoTrader with mentions of recent service costing anywhere from £2k to £6k.

    What are your typical service bills? I’m looking at 911s anywhere from 2005 to 2014-ish but if the servicing costs are a Tudor per year I probably won’t.

    I would go for it, as you only live once.

    i would choose a 997 2S from around 2009. They are a bit smaller and purer to drive than the 991 which was launched in 2011 from memory.

    don't use an OPC (main dealer) as it will be much more expensive than an indie for servicing.

    you should be able to run it for less than £1k PA.

    i would prefer a 6 speed manual for driving pleasure, unless you are going to encounter regular heavy traffic, in say a commute, and then i would choose a PDK

    don't buy a tiptronic gearbox as fitted to earlier cars, as they are not great, and the 991 manual cars initially had a 7 speed gearbox, which is not recognised as their best either.

    (personally i'm an aircooled fan, but the 993 is the last aircooled model which ceased production in 1998, and they're not as easy to live with as the modern cars, especially if it it's going to be your daily driver. however the aircooled cars are all purer and more involving to drive, more like the original cars from 60's / 70's.)

    Good luck and i hope you decide to get one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChronoPantera View Post
    I would go for it, as you only live once.

    i would choose a 997 2S from around 2009. They are a bit smaller and purer to drive than the 991 which was launched in 2011 from memory.

    don't use an OPC (main dealer) as it will be much more expensive than an indie for servicing.

    you should be able to run it for less than £1k PA.

    i would prefer a 6 speed manual for driving pleasure, unless you are going to encounter regular heavy traffic, in say a commute, and then i would choose a PDK

    don't buy a tiptronic gearbox as fitted to earlier cars, as they are not great, and the 991 manual cars initially had a 7 speed gearbox, which is not recognised as their best either.

    (personally i'm an aircooled fan, but the 993 is the last aircooled model which ceased production in 1998, and they're not as easy to live with as the modern cars, especially if it it's going to be your daily driver. however the aircooled cars are all purer and more involving to drive, more like the original cars from 60's / 70's.)

    Good luck and i hope you decide to get one.
    1K a year running costs for a 15 year-old car? Maybe if you leave it in the garage.

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    Nick Giles is well regarded on various owners groups for pre purchase inspections.

    I have had my 987.1 Boxster since 2015 and I love it. Buy on history, maintenance rather than numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico View Post
    Nick Giles is well regarded on various owners groups for pre purchase inspections.

    I have had my 987.1 Boxster since 2015 and I love it. Buy on history, maintenance rather than numbers.
    Nick is great and did the PPI on my 981.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico View Post
    Buy on history, maintenance rather than numbers.
    History, maintenance and a prayer.

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    Quite heavy on the research the last few days. Think I’m set on a 997.2. 911 Virgin had one which looked good here but it’s gone now

    https://911virgin.com/listings/997-2-c2-coupe-pdk-2009/

    If anyone wants to relieve me of an AP ROO in exchange for one I’m all ears

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Quite heavy on the research the last few days. Think I’m set on a 997.2. 911 Virgin had one which looked good here but it’s gone now

    https://911virgin.com/listings/997-2-c2-coupe-pdk-2009/

    If anyone wants to relieve me of an AP ROO in exchange for one I’m all ears
    I can see the attraction of buying from 911 Virgin but you certainly pay handsomely for the peace of mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Quite heavy on the research the last few days. Think I’m set on a 997.2. 911 Virgin had one which looked good here but it’s gone now

    https://911virgin.com/listings/997-2-c2-coupe-pdk-2009/

    If anyone wants to relieve me of an AP ROO in exchange for one I’m all ears

    looks a nice genuine car, don't think it's got sports seats, or a sports exhaust which would be nice, but otherwise looks like a good car, if a little on the pricey side.

    good colour scheme - black / black

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    I follow 911 Virgin on youtube, but they stopped posting new videos a while ago. Came across really well in them, much more so than most channels about cars.

    As a note about inspection, etc. I bought my car from Porsche Cardiff with full OPC service history, 101 point inspection report, etc, with 26000 miles. As good as it gets really. But all of the usual things for a car of that age still failed. Luckily some of that was absorbed by the warranty, notwithstanding my subsequent woes with OPC Leeds, but all the things which failed or were worn out were pretty much the standard shopping list: coolant leak (new coolant housing and hoses), failing clutch slave cylinder (the symptom always being pentosin oil leak, and this was the thing OPC Leeds really struggled with), worn arms on all corners, failing battery, failing rear wing hydraulic rams. Lots of other small jobs such as rubberised coating on interior knobs getting sticky and heater switches rubbing off, aircon leak, etc. None would put me off from buying the car again, but this is where the £2k+ a year comes from. It also needed new disks and pads within a year of me owning it. It's just the price of keeping a car (any car, but particularly a performance car) fresh and in the condition I like. Add to all this paint correction for road rash, ceramic coating, new Porsche Classic head unit, genuine floor mats, replacement front spoiler lip (it has a massive front overhang, so the lip rubs a lot, but it's super tough, so I haven't fitted the new one yet).

    In real terms the 997 has cost quite a bit more to maintain than the 930, but the 930 is much simpler and also feels better screwed together. Both are occasional cars as I work from home. Which also reminds me of another 997 thing, they drain the battery faster than any other car I've had if left standing. It's just a normal thing with them, but they really need to be put on a charger if left standing for anything over a week or so. They will go into sleep mode after a while disabling remote locking, etc., but still it doesn't stop the drain completely. This is how my battery got damaged as OPC Leeds let it discharge at least twice over the many months they had it sitting unplugged.

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    Out of interest is that a gen 1 or 2 you refer to?

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    Out of interest is that a gen 1 or 2 you refer to?
    Gen 1 Turbo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adigra View Post
    Gen 1 Turbo.
    The best looking water cooled 911 Turbo IMHO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by adigra View Post

    Which also reminds me of another 997 thing, they drain the battery faster than any other car I've had if left standing.
    I had to replace the battery on both my 997.1 and 997.2 within a few months of buying them - at great expense. Some kind of design flaw imho. The salesman even made a point of telling me how much Porsche had improved the battery management for the 991.

    I bought mine through the dealership with 2 year warranty and they still cost a lot to run. It wouldn’t put me off buying another 991 - but as a weekend car I would be less bothered about the OPC warranty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilT View Post
    I had to replace the battery on both my 997.1 and 997.2 within a few months of buying them - at great expense. Some kind of design flaw imho. The salesman even made a point of telling me how much Porsche had improved the battery management for the 991.

    I bought mine through the dealership with 2 year warranty and they still cost a lot to run. It wouldn’t put me off buying another 991 - but as a weekend car I would be less bothered about the OPC warranty.
    Definitely. I specifically installed an outside plug socket so I could trickle charge them. Can't work out if it is an inherent P thing, or becuase they are often driven less than most cars.

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    I've had an absolute nightmare with my Taycan the last week.

    Only picked it up less than a month ago and since week 1 has had an intermittent suspension fault on it, they couldn't book me in for 3 weeks to get it looked at but told me it was fine to drive.

    Then on Wednesday, it did the full Christmas tree and I had to have the car recovered. 5 hours and 3 meetings missed before they got me on my way.

    Porsche Assist has been useless and Enterprise the hire car company have been worse.

    I'm currently driving around in a year old 35000 mile Nissan Qashqai they have provided.

    I bought the car through my company through a non franchise dealer down south and there seems like there is zero legal recourse.

    I would have thought a Porsche in manufacturers warranty would be a pretty safe bet.

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    Regarding the 997 battery, I can't really say whether it's a design fault, but compared to other 2000's cars I've had, they certainly drain them more. I am not really sure what the issues is (it's discussed ad nauseam in Porsche groups), but I just plug it in if I know I won't be driving it for a week or so.

    And as for the Taycan, when I last spoke to the head of business at Porsche Leeds, he said most of their workshop time is now taken up by dealing with Taycans either broken down or for a recall.

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    Years ago, I sold my Integrale, after 7 years of ownership and wanted to tick off another car on my list. So purchased a 964 911.
    It was horrible to drive. It looked amazing, but that was as far as my love went for it.

    Going from a fast grippy rally car to a rear wheel drive slug caught me out a number of times. After the 3rd time of losing control in the wet, I decided to sell it.
    Also, the older ones have a very heavy clutch. Which gives your leg a very heavy workout in traffic jams.

    I have considered trying one a bit newer and 4 wheel drive as I am sure they must have improved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigweb View Post
    I've had an absolute nightmare with my Taycan the last week.

    Only picked it up less than a month ago and since week 1 has had an intermittent suspension fault on it, they couldn't book me in for 3 weeks to get it looked at but told me it was fine to drive.

    Then on Wednesday, it did the full Christmas tree and I had to have the car recovered. 5 hours and 3 meetings missed before they got me on my way.

    Porsche Assist has been useless and Enterprise the hire car company have been worse.

    I'm currently driving around in a year old 35000 mile Nissan Qashqai they have provided.

    I bought the car through my company through a non franchise dealer down south and there seems like there is zero legal recourse.

    I would have thought a Porsche in manufacturers warranty would be a pretty safe bet.
    Yours is the third similar story I have read in recent months about new cars with faults and deplorable Porsche service. The others rejected their cars but it sounds like you don't have that legal recourse. Then there is Adigra of this forum who had a ridiculous strong of issues with Porsche Leeds. Porsche strikes mas a rather arrogant company.

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