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    How much is too much for a GS?

    An LE of 50, for the US market only, rose gold, US$29.5k before discount. Am I mad?



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    I suppose at a certain price, it stops being a GS and becomes a Credor.

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    why have you bought it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwest76 View Post
    why have you bought it?
    Not yet. Have been offered one, for delivery early 2020, discount potential too. I have cast my eye at other brands for an alternative, but found nothing which appeals. Only possible option is a pre-owned Lange 1 in platinum.

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    I always admire the Credor Eichi - exquisite and the porcelain dial is to die for.

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    We wouldn't be questioning thoughts if it was a gold Rolex, and the GS will be made to at least the same standard.

    Therefore if the Rolex is worth it, the GS is if you're thinking of inherent and intrinsic value.

    We all know it may not have the resale value, but are you thinking about that with a gold watch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyman View Post
    Not yet. Have been offered one, for delivery early 2020, discount potential too. I have cast my eye at other brands for an alternative, but found nothing which appeals. Only possible option is a pre-owned Lange 1 in platinum.
    And Lange 1 all day long! Class on another level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    I always admire the Credor Eichi - exquisite and the porcelain dial is to die for.

    A lovely watch doubtless, but a textured dial as opposed to a clean enamel finish, is my current preference.

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    I wouldn't bother. Either go big and get the Eichi II in rose gold or platinum or go regular and just get a lovely stainless steel version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehase284 View Post
    We wouldn't be questioning thoughts if it was a gold Rolex, and the GS will be made to at least the same standard.

    Therefore if the Rolex is worth it, the GS is if you're thinking of inherent and intrinsic value.

    We all know it may not have the resale value, but are you thinking about that with a gold watch?

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    Interestingly, I would be ditching a blue dial, WG GMT 126719 for this piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    I wouldn't bother. Either go big and get the Eichi II in rose gold or platinum or go regular and just get a lovely stainless steel version.
    This.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyman View Post
    Interestingly, I would be ditching a blue dial, WG GMT 126719 for this piece.
    If your considering it then you know the answer. If the GS has the Rolex resale you would have already done it... If it was me and I thought it would stay then I'd do it - knowing is well never be a watch to try and quickly liquidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyman View Post
    Interestingly, I would be ditching a blue dial, WG GMT 126719 for this piece.
    That would be like ditching your G Wagon for the JEEP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    That would be like ditching your G Wagon for the JEEP.
    Point (possibly) taken!

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    There aren't many Eichi IIs to buy. Eg the US gets literally one or two a year.

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    Look at the rose gold Eichi 2. A discount can be had from the Seiko Boutique

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyman View Post
    Interestingly, I would be ditching a blue dial, WG GMT 126719 for this piece.
    Down to personal choice of course, but that WG GMT is a stunner. I think I would keep it over the GS.

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    Not for me. A GS is all about being understated. That dial is just to bling for me and is out of keeping with the watch. Perfect for American market !


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    I appreciate the feedback. Here is another, dealer-sourced pic. The dial looks quite subtle.



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    To answer your question, yes. Hard to be objective because I really don't like the watch, but I wouldn't pay anything like that for a GS if I did....unless I was certain I'd be keeping it for ever.

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    I'd say around £4k-£5k is close to too much for a GS for my liking - good job I really don't like most of their styling and prefer the cheaper models.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    For context purposes, I bought this lovely SS GS a few weeks ago. I adore it. This, and my Duo-face Reverso, get all my wrist time. I have become a leather convert!


    I have wanted a RG piece for sometime, and this GS, with itís beautifully textured dial, really appeals.


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    On the gold one, love the case shape, love the brand, and their dials can never be judged by photos. Iíd bet in person itís subtle and elegant, but their watches simply have to be seen and worn to be understood.

    On the value, most people demand hundreds of years of history, vast global advertising campaigns, instant recognition, rock solid value retention in the foreseeable future, and the faint smell of old cigars before they will part with that much for a watch. If youíre not one of those people, good for you!

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    Good pics from HODINKEE shop.

    Looks like the case wears quite high on the wrist though, the 60s originals and indeed the quartz wear flatter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsguy View Post

    I'm not a huge fan of gold watches, but this does look pretty! :)

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    Love the fact that it's effectively a gold dress watch, but it's still got the good ol' Seiko lug holes!

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    I guess this is a very nicely finished watch with excellent movement but I prefer your Rolex to this. A personal choice,I guess.

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    If nothing else this thread has alerted me to Credor. Fortunately they are so out of reach I will just have to look longingly at pictures of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    I guess this is a very nicely finished watch with excellent movement but I prefer your Rolex to this. A personal choice,I guess.
    Are you sure? Why?, it's certainly not better looking, but that name eh?
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyman View Post
    For context purposes, I bought this lovely SS GS a few weeks ago. I adore it. This, and my Duo-face Reverso, get all my wrist time. I have become a leather convert!


    I have wanted a RG piece for sometime, and this GS, with itís beautifully textured dial, really appeals.


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    What model is this, please?


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    Iím sure itís beautifully made etc
    Just couldnít walk past a Lange & Soehne at that level
    Or a VC for that matter

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    To answer OPís question though for me tops I would spend on a GS is $5000-6000 as the only GS, I have bought or think of buying are their dive watches. I doubt if I would ever buy a GS in precious metal.
    But that is just me.
    I actually like the looks of the watch in question even if it is not as understated as the usual Grand Seikos.
    As for Credor certainly there are people who love them and are obviously very well made but they do nothing for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks View Post
    Are you sure? Why?, it's certainly not better looking, but that name eh?
    Its not better looking *to you*.

    I'd keep the GMT as well. The GS does nothing for me and that rehaut looks massive in the hodinkee pic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verv View Post

    The GS does nothing for me and that rehaut looks massive in the hodinkee pic.
    As do the lugs

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    Quote Originally Posted by verv View Post
    Its not better looking *to you*.

    I'd keep the GMT as well. The GS does nothing for me and that rehaut looks massive in the hodinkee pic.
    +1, looks are subjective, so a bit of a ridiculous point by Daddel. Just to be clear, neither do anything for me aesthetically.

    OP - if you are looking at a high end GS, you need to get one that has been made by the micro artist studio such as the Eichi II. Probably a price bracket higher though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcleminson View Post
    As do the lugs
    With respect, I think that saying the lugs on a 44GS case look large may be missing the point! If you're after a more traditional design, you may prefer the SBGW235 and friends. But the 44GS case is a 60s classic, and its unusual shape is part of what makes Grand Seiko who they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsguy View Post
    With respect, I think that saying the lugs on a 44GS case look large may be missing the point! If you're after a more traditional design, you may prefer the SBGW235 and friends. But the 44GS case is a 60s classic, and its unusual shape is part of what makes Grand Seiko who they are.
    Forgive me, lazy post. I appreciate it's heritage, but what I mean to say is that in rose gold the proportions seem to change somewhat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcleminson View Post
    Forgive me, lazy post. I appreciate it's heritage, but what I mean to say is that in rose gold the proportions seem to change somewhat.
    Arguably it works better in platinum ;-)


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    I have owned several GS, I want to like them, but they are terribly clumsy.

    Often too big, always too thick.

    This GS has a power reserve on the front dial of an exquisite Dress Watch. Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsguy View Post




    Good pics from HODINKEE shop.

    Looks like the case wears quite high on the wrist though, the 60s originals and indeed the quartz wear flatter.
    You may well have a point there. Thank you. One thing that I really cannot stand is watches which sit high on the wrist, due often to their caseback design. I had not noticed it in that first picture before. Focuses the mind as I have to order the watch without actually trying it on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyr View Post
    What model is this, please?


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    SBGY003

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    Quote Originally Posted by proby24 View Post
    I have owned several GS, I want to like them, but they are terribly clumsy.

    Often too big, always too thick.

    This GS has a power reserve on the front dial of an exquisite Dress Watch. Why?
    Again, some good points. One of the attractions of my SBGY003 is how slimline it is at 10.2 mm including the beautifully domed sapphire. Also, the fact that the PR indicator has been relocated to the reverse of the watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyp View Post
    Pricey!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyman View Post

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    Pricey!
    It is sadly! Think the one on the right is a cool $65k. But top quality isn't cheap. That GS has some of the best movement finishing you can find. The Micro Artist Studio got no less than Phillipe Dufour himself to come over and teach them how to finish. And they've really nailed it.

    But this highlights my issue with the GS you're looking at - I expect a bit more in movement finishing for that price range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proby24 View Post
    I have owned several GS, I want to like them, but they are terribly clumsy.
    Often too big, always too thick.
    You're buying the wrong ones! I agree with you on the autos (too thick) and divers (large), auto GMT (huge, for me anyway). The Snowflake wears very well for its 41mm and the quartz are the best proportioned of the lot. 37mm GS quartz are relatively small and thin, hand wound dress watches are also thin. 40mm quartz wear better than 39mm Rolex on a slim wrist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyman View Post
    You may well have a point there. Thank you. One thing that I really cannot stand is watches which sit high on the wrist, due often to their caseback design. I had not noticed it in that first picture before. Focuses the mind as I have to order the watch without actually trying it on.
    Sorry to say, I've made it a rule never to buy a GS without trying it, they can look and wear very differently to how you might imagine. I did once, and while I liked the watch, it wasn't at all what I was expecting. More recently, 'the one' turned out to be a model I'd never considered until I tried it. A thought - you could try the auto version which is probably similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proby24 View Post
    I have owned several GS, I want to like them, but they are terribly clumsy.

    Often too big, always too thick.

    This GS has a power reserve on the front dial of an exquisite Dress Watch. Why?
    Maybe the 9F quartz would better suit your tastes...



    Not too big.
    Not clumsy.
    No power reserve.
    But itís a quartz - and thatís enough to put some off.
    Not me.

    Itís way beyond what I need in terms of accuracy at 5 s per year. Which I like, but itís also a nice small, elegant, simple design watch.

    In days where manufacturers are adding things to the dial to differentiate - I really like that itís just 3 hands and day / date. Thatís enough for this style of watch Imho. In fact Iíd probably like it more without the day/date.

    z

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    ^^^^Lovely piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelig View Post
    Maybe the 9F quartz would better suit your tastes...


    [...]


    In days where manufacturers are adding things to the dial to differentiate - I really like that itís just 3 hands and day / date. Thatís enough for this style of watch Imho. In fact Iíd probably like it more without the day/date.

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    I agree with everything above. Itís what continues to draw me to the SBGX009, with itís understatement.




    To answer to OP, I like that limited edition. What thoughts are holding you back from going for it?

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    It seems as if production values are in decline at Hodinkee; imagine letting the model onto two photoshoots missing a cuff button...
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    Lookit this scrub not realising that undoing one button is a sure indication that the buttons are functional, rather than decorative, such as one might find on a plebian's off the rack two-piece.

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