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    Rolex 14060M Service

    Hi All

    Had my 14060M from new December 2011

    It has been worn very sparingly over the last 8 years and never been serviced

    No issues with it at all and keep perfect time.

    The question is service or no service

    All advise appreciated

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    I’m the camp of if its running and keeping time with good power reserve, continue to wear it and enjoy it.

    Others opinion may vary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ben4watches View Post
    I’m the camp of if its running and keeping time with good power reserve, continue to wear it and enjoy it.

    Others opinion may vary.
    Thanks Ben

    We have an elderly neighbour and she has a 20 years plus datejust, wears it daily, no issues, no service

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    My 14060M is also from 2011. Running sweet at plus 1 sec per day. I have no plans to service it until the timekeeping noticeably changes.

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by higham5 View Post
    My 14060M is also from 2011. Running sweet at plus 1 sec per day. I have no plans to service it until the timekeeping noticeably changes.

    Steve
    Thanks Steve,

    Think Ill be doing the same

    Hugh

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    There are two schools of thought re servicing.

    Some will say to wait until a problem arises and then send it for service, others will recommend the watch is serviced according to the recommendation of the manufacturer

    I’m firmly in the latter camp, in fact I have just sent off my 14060M to Rolex for its 5 year service. It had no issues and was running at the same rate as it was when returned from its last service in 2014.

    This is probably the more expensive option but it gives me peace of mind and I consider it part of the cost of ownership. That’s probably why I only have two automatics.
    Last edited by JeremyO; 19th November 2019 at 08:10.

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    I service my watch after every 5 years. For the peace of mid


    Quote Originally Posted by 964boy View Post
    Hi All

    Had my 14060M from new December 2011

    It has been worn very sparingly over the last 8 years and never been serviced

    No issues with it at all and keep perfect time.

    The question is service or no service

    All advise appreciated

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    Oils do dry, which then increases wear on pivots and other parts, sending back to Rolex is fine as they have the parts to replace but if going independent then this could be an issue and may need more regular service to keep oils updated.

    This isn’t about your era of watch but I talked with a very knowledgeable person about an original vintage watch the other day, he said if it’s running fine don’t get it serviced as there is always the factor a service could damage a dial, hands, hard to find movement parts, I get what he is saying and that’s fine if it’s left in the safe, but to wear I would like to know the movement is sweet.


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    Thanks for your input gents

    My 14060M was my first rolex purchase, but over the last few years I've purchased a pre-owned as new condition 2012 datejust 116223, serviced prior to purchase. And this year a new Omega Speedmaster Professional.

    Going forward I'll have 3 auto's to service

    What's the pros and cons re AD or local specialist servicing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 964boy View Post
    Thanks for your input gents

    My 14060M was my first rolex purchase, but over the last few years I've purchased a pre-owned as new condition 2012 datejust 116223, serviced prior to purchase. And this year a new Omega Speedmaster Professional.

    Going forward I'll have 3 auto's to service

    What's the pros and cons re AD or local specialist servicing.
    I’m a strong advocate of using accredited indys for Rolex service, but they’re getting fewer!

    I know of 2 highly regarded ones who are no longer Rolex accredited and therefore can’t ( legitimately) obtain genuine Rolex parts.

    How often to service?........even with experience I still struggle to give a clear answer to this one, possibly because there isn’t a ‘one size fits all’ answer! I have a couple of watches that haven’t been serviced for over 10 years and they still run well according to the Timegrapher, they’ve had very little wear over the years and I have to conclude this is a big factor, particularly with modern synthetic oils. I don’t get around to servicing my own watches, I don’t ‘ make time’ to do them (pardon the pun) because I’m either doing non- watch things or fixing other folks’s watches, so I’ve ended up with a few that I only wear occasionally because I know they ought to be serviced and re- oiled. Not ideal.

    The only fooproof way to tell whether a watch needs servicing is to strip it down. Sometimes it’s obvious that they need attention but there are plenty of examples where it isn’t clear cut. I took a cal613 Omega apart today, took the balance end jewels out and they were dry, with traces of dried up oil. That definitely needed servicing for that reason alone, I don’t know how it was running because the mainspring was broken, but I’ll bet it was running reasonably OK.......and that’s the dilemma!
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    Quickie question - is is safe to assume that a Rolex would maintain its water resistance even though it is keeping perfect time ?

    In other words, do the seals remain water tight ?

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    mine is from 2008, never serviced and i wont until something deviates.

    still waterproof to 300m

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    Quote Originally Posted by verv View Post
    mine is from 2008, never serviced and i wont until something deviates.

    still waterproof to 300m
    I thought that there is a risk that seals can deteriorate over time?

    Apart from putting the watch through a pressure test, which I’m sure you have done, how would the average owner know these are still ok?

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    Modern synthetic rubber doesn’t deteriorate like natural rubber did 50 years ago. I often inspect seals on watches that are 20 years old and usually they’re fine, the seal may have relaxed and adopted a slightly different shape, but the rubber itself us OK and the seal us still functioning. Seals in a watch lead an easy life, they’re not subjected to temperature, solvents, or friction. Even the crown seals in hand- wound watches seem to last well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    Modern synthetic rubber doesn’t deteriorate like natural rubber did 50 years ago. I often inspect seals on watches that are 20 years old and usually they’re fine, the seal may have relaxed and adopted a slightly different shape, but the rubber itself us OK and the seal us still functioning. Seals in a watch lead an easy life, they’re not subjected to temperature, solvents, or friction. Even the crown seals in hand- wound watches seem to last well.
    Thank you for clarifying this for me.

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    Wow

    Thanks guys for all your input on this

    There is a great wealth of knowledge here and I will have to digest it all

    Got a local guy here, only couple of miles away, he's not Rolex accredited as yet, but assures me if required genuine Rolex parts will be used

    https://jvwatchmakers.com

    Thanks all

    Hugh

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    Hi Hugh,

    My 14060M is from 2007, bought it second hand Late 2014 and it gained 5 secs over 24 hours when I first got it. Nearly 5 years later and it’s still +5 secs per day, which I’m totally fine with. I wear it maybe once every week or so on average.

    Mine’s a 2-liner so not an official chronometer.

    Think Rolex charge £800 now for a watch 10 years old but I’m happy to be corrected on that.

    If it ain’t broke......


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    Quote Originally Posted by CafeRacer View Post
    Hi Hugh,

    My 14060M is from 2007, bought it second hand Late 2014 and it gained 5 secs over 24 hours when I first got it. Nearly 5 years later and it’s still +5 secs per day, which I’m totally fine with. I wear it maybe once every week or so on average.

    Mine’s a 2-liner so not an official chronometer.

    Think Rolex charge £800 now for a watch 10 years old but I’m happy to be corrected on that.

    If it ain’t broke......


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    My Submariner is now 15 years old and is currently with RSC for its third 5 year service. I was quoted c. £550-600 by the AD for this work and 6-8 weeks.

    If the cost is significantly different I will update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeremyO View Post
    I thought that there is a risk that seals can deteriorate over time?

    Apart from putting the watch through a pressure test, which I’m sure you have done, how would the average owner know these are still ok?
    Getting a pressure test is really the only surefire answer to this that doesnt risk damaging the watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verv View Post
    mine is from 2008, never serviced and i wont until something deviates.

    still waterproof to 300m
    I'm taking it you recently had it pressure tested?
    I think that, with the kind of wear most rolex watches are subjected to - i.e. not particularly harsh, it would be surprising to see the seals deteriorating within ten or so years.
    It might be different if they were used to, say, actually go down to 300m, or any significant depth or conditions.

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    Yeah I got it tested last year I think. 10 year anniversary and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verv View Post
    Getting a pressure test is really the only surefire answer to this that doesnt risk damaging the watch.
    Agreed.....provided its a dry tester!

    I use a wet tester but I’m v. careful with it, they’re far from ideal but they’re cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeremyO View Post
    My Submariner is now 15 years old and is currently with RSC for its third 5 year service. I was quoted c. £550-600 by the AD for this work and 6-8 weeks.

    If the cost is significantly different I will update.
    Just to update, I called to collect it today after 6 weeks, cost was £580.

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    For me 5 years is too soon to service if it is keeping good time - but I personally would get it done within 10 years, irrespective of whether you think it needs it or not.... This is my middle ground practical approach...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsteenekamp View Post
    For me 5 years is too soon to service if it is keeping good time - but I personally would get it done within 10 years, irrespective of whether you think it needs it or not.... This is my middle ground practical approach...
    At the time I bought my watch, I’m pretty sure that Rolex recommended servicing every 5 years so I stick to this schedule for peace of mind.

    I am well aware that more modern iterations have different recommended service intervals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeremyO View Post
    Just to update, I called to collect it today after 6 weeks, cost was £580.
    That's not bad for a full Rolex service with new service card and piece of mind for the next 5, 10 or however many years folk decide is appropriate.

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