Manufacture?

[Kingstepper]

There's current thread here https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...he-Manufacture.

Don't want to derail interesting thread so asking in another - why manufacture and not manufacturer? The latter seems correct English or is it maybe a French word?

[Skip]

Always wondered myself. My thought was that it is French, as you say.

[Onelasttime]

There's current thread here https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...he-Manufacture.

Don't want to derail interesting thread so asking in another - why manufacture and not manufacturer? The latter seems correct English or is it maybe a French word?

Isn't it two different words?

manufacture = verb: to make something

manufacturer = noun: someone who makes that something

I must be missing something in your question?

[learningtofly]

I always assumed it was français de Suisse.

[Kingstepper]

Isn't it two different words?

manufacture = verb: to make something

manufacturer = noun: someone who makes that something

I must be missing something in your question?

Yes, different words but second seems more apt in this context (unless a foreign word).

[Onelasttime]

Yes, different words but second seems more apt in this context (unless a foreign word).

I hadn’t looked at the link. I think it works both ways.

Inside the manufacture (of the watch)

Inside the manufacturer (who makes the watch)

[MrBanks]

It's French, just carried over to English incorrectly.

It's like piece unique, not unique piece.

[SimonK]

It's a little more elegant than using the English translation - factory. Like using marque instead of brand.

[Neil.C]

My understanding was that Manufacture (fr) is used when a company makes it's own movements.

[Saint-Just]

Manufacture etymologically means hand made. Considering how the Swiss watch industry started it is quite appropriate.

But Neil is correct, strictly speaking in horology it is given to brands that make their own calibres... yet of course it is corrupted and misused ad lib.
Technically The Seiko Group and Swatch could call themselves manufactures.
On the other hand, most so-called Swiss manufactures import (often from China) as much as they can get away with legally, assemble the lasts steps and can claim the prize of calling themselves a manufacture.

[bubi]

It's the place where the manufacturer works.
In english it would be "the works" or something

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BUBI 0_0

[MrSmith]

There's current thread here https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...he-Manufacture.

Don't want to derail interesting thread so asking in another - why manufacture and not manufacturer? The latter seems correct English or is it maybe a French word?

No idea whats correct but I have flown out to Geneva to shoot watches at Audemars, JLC, Minerva(montblanc) and Patek. It’s always ‘manufacture’ when speaking about where it is, what time we get there etc. It’s never factory! That gets you a funny look.