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    Grand Master TaketheCannoli's Avatar
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    Sorry, how much?

    Run that past me again!


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    <<Gulp!>>...

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    I’ve seen more than that too.

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    Not much when you say it fast.

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    Probably bought in at about 10k or less


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    Waiting for someone here to buy it at list and then want "what it owes me" on SC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Waiting for someone here to buy it at list and then want "what it owes me" on SC.
    Haha, genuinely made me Lol!

    Was this in Newcastle btw? Looks like the place in the metro center that massively overcharge for all second hand Rolex.

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    And in this mad world of Rolex, is that more or less than a brand new one would be??

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    Quote Originally Posted by tz-uk73 View Post
    I’ve seen more than that too.
    +1

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    That's the one. He seems to think Newcastle is akin to London or New York where rich folk can buy a £15k trinket of a Tuesday afternoon. Deluded.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkR View Post
    Haha, genuinely made me Lol!

    Was this in Newcastle btw? Looks like the place in the metro center that massively overcharge for all second hand Rolex.
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    Aren't they around the £8k mark brand new?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrGrumpy View Post
    And in this mad world of Rolex, is that more or less than a brand new one would be??

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    Sorry, how much?

    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    That's the one. He seems to think Newcastle is akin to London or New York where rich folk can buy a £15k trinket of a Tuesday afternoon. Deluded.



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    Aren't they around the £8k mark brand new?
    Around £6.5k new, good luck with that though


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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzyb123 View Post
    Around £6.5k new, good luck with that though


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    £50 short of £7k now.

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    There were three in beaverbrooks window at lakeside last week all at that sort of money and you can stick on a further grand for WF. Same on chrono24. Crazy but that's how it is nowdays

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefs View Post
    There were three in beaverbrooks window at lakeside last week all at that sort of money and you can stick on a further grand for WF. Same on chrono24. Crazy but that's how it is nowdays
    Really. They put all 3 in the window. Nothing says Hard to source then 3 in a window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPCain86 View Post
    Really. They put all 3 in the window. Nothing says Hard to source then 3 in a window.
    Yep three all together plus a Kermit for £16.5K . There was also a white Daytona for £25.5K !!

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    Are you surprised at the low price now that the bubble has bursted?😂😂😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    Are you surprised at the low price now that the bubble has bursted?


    Be giving 'em away in a couple months time.......apparently.......
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tz-uk73 View Post
    £50 short of £7k now.
    Wowzers


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    Hope it's a real one, then

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    I suppose if you have the money you need a shop that actually has stock. Not condoning these crazy prices, but while people are paying these prices there won't be any bubbles bursting.

    We need a world wide co-ordinated response whereby everyone refuses to pay a penny over list. Prices would soon come down if no one was buying. I think the fanboys would blink first 😂😂

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    I'll see that and raise you this:

    https://www.essential-watches.com/wa...ack-Dial/97210

    (Rodeo Drive tax included)
    Last edited by Tabs; 5th November 2019 at 20:20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monogroover View Post
    Hope it's a real one, then
    They do say some of the fakes around could fool most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabs View Post
    I'll see that and raise you this:

    https://www.essential-watches.com/wa...ack-Dial/97210

    (Rodeo Drive tax included)
    From the same retailer:
    https://www.essential-watches.com/wa...een-Dial/33372

    But why the substantial difference though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralphy View Post
    From the same retailer:
    https://www.essential-watches.com/wa...een-Dial/33372

    But why the substantial difference though?

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    Dartboard pricing method.

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    A friend just picked one up brand new from a dealer in San Diego for $11k I’m guessing that’s a pretty decent deal?

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    If mugs will pay, then folk will price them accordingly, why make a small profit when you can make a big one, way of the world innit.

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    The RRP is just an arbitrary figure set by the manufacturer. As long as there are enough people buying at the current market price the current values will hold. The weak pound doesn't help either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amii21 View Post
    The RRP is just an arbitrary figure set by the manufacturer. As long as there are enough people buying at the current market price the current values will hold. The weak pound doesn't help either.
    Wasn't there talk recently of Rolex UK upping RRP by a few percent to match the European market?

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    Is it too far fetched to think that Rolex are allowing people to get used to these crazy prices then come back with circa 40% price rises that people think are bargains for new watches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralphy View Post
    From the same retailer:
    https://www.essential-watches.com/wa...een-Dial/33372

    But why the substantial difference though?

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    The others a ceramic 6 digit Hulk

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    Quote Originally Posted by ditchvisitor View Post
    A friend just picked one up brand new from a dealer in San Diego for $11k I’m guessing that’s a pretty decent deal?
    An AD?
    AD is not allowed to sell new above RRP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amii21 View Post
    The RRP is just an arbitrary figure set by the manufacturer. As long as there are enough people buying at the current market price the current values will hold. The weak pound doesn't help either.
    All RRP’s are arbitrary but an AD has to follow that price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    Is it too far fetched to think that Rolex are allowing people to get used to these crazy prices then come back with circa 40% price rises that people think are bargains for new watches?
    Who knows but I don’t think that’s too far fetched no. If a stainless sub went from 6.5k to 9k they’d still sell as many as they do today i’m sure. Let’s be honest, if you’ve got £6.5k for a watch you can probably find or justify £9k. Or, it’ll just turn in to something people finance like their cars and motorbikes. How many people have got £25k plus cash to lay out for a car, the vast majority just finance them. If watch rrp’s become beyond comfort levels, people can just finance them right?

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    At least it’s a 2017
    I’ve seen that price for a 2012 lol

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    My thoughts exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by tz-uk73 View Post
    Who knows but I don’t think that’s too far fetched no. If a stainless sub went from 6.5k to 9k they’d still sell as many as they do today i’m sure. Let’s be honest, if you’ve got £6.5k for a watch you can probably find or justify £9k. Or, it’ll just turn in to something people finance like their cars and motorbikes. How many people have got £25k plus cash to lay out for a car, the vast majority just finance them. If watch rrp’s become beyond comfort levels, people can just finance them right?

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    A store near me is asking 17k for a Kermit!

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    If it was 40 years old with a black Dial and a bit of Red writing on it, it would be more expensive.

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    I'm surprised Rolex haven't yet done their autumn price hike. I thought the nodate would blow through £6k and leap 10% and the 2 date versions would probably do 5-8% but nothing yet. I do think Rolex are trying to push up market by consistent 5-10% price rises. Purely guessing though.

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    Sorry, how much?

    As mentioned in another thread, there looks to be a adjustment in asking prices from some of the greys who are starting to get a twitchy sphincter after asking just too much, saying that I don’t think there is going to be any type of bubble bursting, just a slight deflation of the bubble at the top end asking prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuno1 View Post
    A store near me is asking 17k for a Kermit!
    I don't think that's terrible, its a fraction of the price it will be worth in 20 years, its the best watch Rolex have made in the last 30 years

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    It's so painful when the things you love increase in price faster than your income!

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    Like food!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxia View Post
    It's so painful when the things you love increase in price faster than your income!

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    Surely there will be a limit though. In twenty years from now your 2018 Sub isn’t going to be worth £30k surely?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hooshabak View Post
    I don't think that's terrible, its a fraction of the price it will be worth in 20 years, its the best watch Rolex have made in the last 30 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by LondonNeil View Post
    I'm surprised Rolex haven't yet done their autumn price hike. I thought the nodate would blow through £6k and leap 10% and the 2 date versions would probably do 5-8% but nothing yet. I do think Rolex are trying to push up market by consistent 5-10% price rises. Purely guessing though.
    Autumn price hike ?

    Consistent 5-10% price rises?

    I refer to your final three words and see greater accuracy therein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    Surely there will be a limit though. In twenty years from now your 2018 Sub isn’t going to be worth £30k surely?
    To the moon baby.

    But back down to earth why/what would incentivize anyone outside the 1 per cent club to spend better than a years average salary on a mass produced steel watch. Except perhaps the notion that down the line there'll be a bigger fool to offload it to. Now where have we seen that kind of herding behaviour before, and what does it usually presage. No implicit judgement here on either buyers or the commodity itself, genuinely interested in how it plays out/evolves in terms of observing human and market behaviours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    One's an unworn 5 digit Kermit
    The others a ceramic 6 digit Hulk
    Thank you.

    But putting aside the asking prices, would the % increase be a realistic one between the two models, even though they are both 'unworn (new) with boxes and papers'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralphy View Post
    Thank you.

    But putting aside the asking prices, would the % increase be a realistic one between the two models, even though they are both 'unworn (new) with boxes and papers'?

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    I’m not saying it’s correct but there will be more unworn 6 digit Hulks as these are being produced in the middle of this explosion so a lot of people won’t wear them due to their perception that the value will dip if worn
    10-15 yrs ago most people would be wearing the Kermit as not many would have foreseen the value hike and would just have worn them. Hence far less unworn ones.
    That’s my take on it.
    Also the small matter of the ceramic LV being hideous but that’s for another day .


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    My crystal ball was working when I was paying market prices several years ago for Kermits.
    No hype for flat 4s then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyg View Post
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    This is common sense.

    But of course emotion is powerful too.

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    Less than was being asked for a used BLNR in Central London yesterday..

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