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Last edited by jake11x; 23rd October 2019 at 15:22. Reason: cannot put photo on
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,,,,,,,,,bought a lot at auction and printed on watch is Bogdan Kobulov of the Ministry of State Security and NKVD (Russian Police) would this be a keeper or a throwaway ?Originally Posted by Toddy
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Why are you asking? Are you hoping it's worth some money?
Does the fact that the НКВД was dissolved in 1946 help you decide?
I'm on the lookout for the LE of Black Bays issued for Henry VIII's 50th birthday
....no , just wondered if it really belonged to him , is that even possible , it needs a new winder etc , just wondered if it was worth fixing , I prefer A.B.Art watches.
It would be interesting to see a pic.
There are a few Russian experts on here who might be able to help.
Ihave taken pictures but unfortunately cannot put them on as they need a url or something , i dont know how to.
"He held a series of senior posts in the NKVD, the Soviet secret police, and was the most trusted henchman of the NKVD chief Beria. As head of the Investigative Directorate of the NKVD from 22 December 1938 to 4 September 1939, he was one of the major organizers of the political terror. He subsequently headed the Economic Directorate until 1941. During World War II he played a large role in the deportation of several ethnic minorities from their native lands, for which he was awarded the Order of the Red Banner.
"When Beria fell from power, Kobulov was arrested along with his boss on 27 June 1953; he was convicted on multiple charges, including espionage, and sentenced to death and executed on 23 December 1953"
Thanks for that , not a very nice watch to have then?
Well, the watch is not responsible for the crimes of its owner or the person whom it is named after.
It is most unlikely to be his personal watch, but perhaps not impossible.
It's far more like to be a more modern watch made in the memory of this chap.
But without seeing pics we can't be sure.
To upload pics you'll need to upload them to a picture hosting service and then link to them from here.
Last edited by jake11x; 23rd October 2019 at 16:41. Reason: no picture shows
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We aren’t going to be able to see the contents of your hard drive. You need to upload the pics to a hosting website like imgur.
This was a link to your local hard disk. Instead you need to upload the picture(s) to an Internet hosting facility and then link to that.
I believe that https://photobucket.com/ is a popular one but I've not used it myself.
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Last edited by jake11x; 23rd October 2019 at 17:06.
[Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/k0MRwB5.jpg) can you see it now?...https://imgur.com/fNhM3Mv
Last edited by jake11x; 23rd October 2019 at 17:04.
Close enough!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slava_watches
Slava watches
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
SLAVA for men, made in Russia, 21 jewel gilding series 20.
Slava (Russian: Cлава, meaning "Glory") watches were classic "civil" Russian watches. The Slava factory (known originally as the Second Moscow Watch Factory) was the second non-military watchmaker established in the Soviet Union, in 1924. The watches of this brand have always been intended for civilian consumption, without military or aerospace pretensions.
Last edited by Itsguy; 23rd October 2019 at 17:06.
^^^ Ah, I reckon that is a reasonably modern Slava (possibly even Chinese-made, not sure) with a dial that is simply intended to commemorate Bogdan Komulov.
It's worth £10 or so, I'd guess.
Last edited by markrlondon; 23rd October 2019 at 17:11.
I think that I choose not to believe that anyone genuinely supposes that an automatic day date with English writing on the dial has anything to do with someone who died in 1953. What rubbish, both the watch and this thread.
....So the wording on the watch is just for a wanabe and not his personally?Close enough!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slava_watches
Slava watches
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
SLAVA for men, made in Russia, 21 jewel gilding series 20.
Slava (Russian: Cлава, meaning "Glory") watches were classic "civil" Russian watches. The Slava factory (known originally as the Second Moscow Watch Factory) was the second non-military watchmaker established in the Soviet Union, in 1924. The watches of this brand have always been intended for civilian consumption, without military or aerospace pretensions.
...Why would some one want to commemorate him?
Definitely not his personally.
It's commemorative, not his personally.
As Der Amf says, it seems odd that the name would be written in English, or that Ministry of State Security would be written in English if it had anything to do with it originally. Though it is a mystery how such a thing came to exist and why.
<shrug> There's always someone who wants to commemorate the worst of humanity.
The commemorative dial printing looks poor, as if it was added after the watch was made. Could be a semi-amateur short run for particular supporters of the NKVD and Bogdan Komulov. I am certain that such people exist.
...automatic watch invented 1933 , so sorry for bothering you.
Last edited by jake11x; 23rd October 2019 at 17:24.
Jake, it has created some interest ergo it's an interesting watch, thanks for posting.
Thanks , I had no intention of upsetting anyone , I was intrigued , it was bought in a job lot of Russian/Polish medals and pendants , which made me think it was authentic as the medals are.
Hi Jake. It's a late 70s/early 80s model Slava so about as genuine as Stalin's Casio F-91W. The movement in yours is pretty cool though - it's a Slava 2427 double-barrel which was one of the more advanced Soviet movements of the time but it did have a rather poor reputation for reliability.
Oddity value only.
....and the russians used english on their watches :D
IM A NEWBIE , NEVER GAVE IT A THOUGHT BUT HAVE LEARNT , THANKS FOR THAT.
that’s unfortunate. Hope you didn’t pay too much. M
NO , I GOT IN A JOB LOT WITH LOTS MORE WATCHES , BUT CANNOT FIND ANYTHING ABOUT THEM , EVEN ON GOOGLE IMAGES.https://imgur.com/l6MsYxc
Last edited by jake11x; 25th October 2019 at 18:06.
I think you have your caps lock stuck? So are these all the others? If so - maybe 50pence for the lot?
Dammit M , I paid £1.50 for the batteries , seriously though , tnx.I think you have your caps lock stuck? So are these all the others? If so - maybe 50pence for the lot?
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