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    Sunday Morning Find

    So I was assisting my teenage son with his WW1 assignment and suggested we have a look at my Grandads medals from both world wars, it certainly helped bring the topic to life for him.

    As we were digging in the old shoe box full of his possessions we came across the below, I didn’t even know it was there! A few turns of the crown and it was up and running and is sat on my wrist as I type, family history is a wonderful thing.

    I’m guessing it is late forties, early fifties but if anyone can shed some light it would be appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Jonathan.




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    Very nice!
    A similar one here in gold dated to 1952.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gents-Vin...cAAOSw~G5dTHz5

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    Great find. Would be worth getting that serviced and cleaned up, still fashionable today. You should wear and enjoy it 👍

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    A cracking find. Well done that man.

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    Thanks guys, certainly interested in getting it cleaned up and serviced if you have any recommendations for vintage stuff? It’s still keeping good time after I wound it a few hours ago, not bad considering it will have been sat doing nothing for decades!


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    Accurist established in 1946 so must be post that date.

    Nice find.


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    I`d estimate the age as early 50s. If it's solid gold there should be a hallmark, that would help to date it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    I`d estimate the age as early 50s. If it's solid gold there should be a hallmark, that would help to date it.
    No visible hallmark but would it be stamped internally?

    Thanks in advance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quality Man View Post
    Thanks guys, certainly interested in getting it cleaned up and serviced if you have any recommendations for vintage stuff? It’s still keeping good time after I wound it a few hours ago, not bad considering it will have been sat doing nothing for decades!


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    I had an old WW2 watch from my grandad and got that serviced and completely sorted by Animalone on here can’t recommend him enough!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quality Man View Post
    No visible hallmark but would it be stamped internally?

    Thanks in advance.


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    There may be a hallmark inside the caseback, and under the lugs. It's possible the watch is rolled gold so there won't be any hallmarks. Usually a rolled gold case will have some stampings between the lugs claiming how many years the case should last.

    The movement should be straightforward enough to service and sort out on a watch like this, clean it, oil it, fit a new mainspring and it'll be as good as it ever was.

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    Thanks all for your feedback.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quality Man View Post
    Thanks guys, certainly interested in getting it cleaned up and serviced if you have any recommendations for vintage stuff? It’s still keeping good time after I wound it a few hours ago, not bad considering it will have been sat doing nothing for decades!


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    webwatchmaker.com Brendan is great for sympathetic restoration work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.D View Post
    webwatchmaker.com Brendan is great for sympathetic restoration work
    I will second that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZIM View Post
    I will second that.
    Thank you both.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quality Man View Post
    Thank you both.


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    Thank you gentlemen.
    It was made at a time when Accurist used exclusively high quality Swiss movements. Called a 'cushion case'. Probably has an AS 984 or AS 970 movement. Originally fitted with a milled turnip crown and crystal bevelled glass. Sometimes the hallmark is on the edge or underside of the strap bar as well as inside the case back.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Webwatchmaker View Post
    Thank you gentlemen.
    It was made at a time when Accurist used exclusively high quality Swiss movements. Called a 'cushion case'. Probably has an AS 984 or AS 970 movement. Originally fitted with a milled turnip crown and crystal bevelled glass. Sometimes the hallmark is on the edge or underside of the strap bar as well as inside the case back.


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    Thanks for the info Brendan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quality Man View Post
    Thanks for the info Brendan.


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    My pleasure.
    PS You will need a strap with open ends.

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    Wow. What a find.

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    Very nice !

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    Amazing find, enjoy!


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    A bit better than the watch I found today !


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    Depends on your viewpoint I suppose!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quality Man View Post
    Depends on your viewpoint I suppose!


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    These toy watches are quite rare now, but yours is a real gem. Here is another one I found a few years ago:



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    As others have said, if it's gold then it will be hallmarked.

    I have one in similar style




    The movement is signed Cyma and the case is stamped 9.375 for 9 carat gold just below the lower right lug in the picture. Whilst mine is signed Cyma I suspect it's a generic movement used in many of this type of watch.




    The case is by Dennison, (I suspect yours will be too), and the hallmark indicates that the case was assayed in Birmingham, (the anchor), it is 9 carat gold, (9.375), and was made in 1933, (J)




    Lots of service marks scratched into the case back too, so it's been well looked after. Runs well and is worn in rotation with my other watches.

    It should be an easy job to pop the case back off on yours, (I can open mine with a fingernail), and have a look.

    Great find by the way
    Best Regards - Peter

    I'd hate to be with you when you're on your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griswold View Post
    As others have said, if it's gold then it will be hallmarked.

    I have one in similar style




    The movement is signed Cyma and the case is stamped 9.375 for 9 carat gold just below the lower right lug in the picture. Whilst mine is signed Cyma I suspect it's a generic movement used in many of this type of watch.




    The case is by Dennison, (I suspect yours will be too), and the hallmark indicates that the case was assayed in Birmingham, (the anchor), it is 9 carat gold, (9.375), and was made in 1933, (J)




    Lots of service marks scratched into the case back too, so it's been well looked after. Runs well and is worn in rotation with my other watches.

    It should be an easy job to pop the case back off on yours, (I can open mine with a fingernail), and have a look.

    Great find by the way
    Thanks Griswold, yours looks a lovely example.


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