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    Quote Originally Posted by rincewind View Post
    Watched it last night. It was ok but not great. Pesci was excellent, Pacino above average but De Niro phoned it in. Film itself looked great but was long and slow. Agree with above poster about the De Niro beating, laughable.
    Watched it over the weekend. Couldn’t do it in 1 stint. Poster above says everything I was going to say.

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    I have to agree with the above, had to watch it, good, but not great, good to see the usual mob suspects in a film again.
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    I'm an hour and a half into the film.
    Starting to drag a bit for me knowing I've still got 2 hours to go.
    I will continue and finish it, but it may take a few more sittings.

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    An ok two hour film spread over 3 and a half. I doubt I’d watch it again.

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    I'll treat the run time like 3 episodes of Sopranos . Easily watched .

    Somebody mentioned when was the last time De-niro gave a great performance and not a pastiche of himself where his on/off screen depiction is indistinguishable. I tend to have to agree with this view .

    His last great film was somewhere in the 90s : A Bronx tale , The Untouchables , Heat , Casino, Sleepers.

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    I'm a big fan of those involved and the genre but I thought this was poor. Too slow, predictable and the ageing didn't work for me at all in any way.

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    Was really looking forward to this one but in the end it was all a bit dull really. Some very good performances as you’d expect but a largely boring movie in my opinion. Also could help thinking that Joe Pesci looked like a boozed up Gazza.

    Think I'll give Goodfella's and Casino a dust off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by relaxer7 View Post
    Was really looking forward to this one but in the end it was all a bit dull really. Some very good performances as you’d expect but a largely boring movie in my opinion. Also could help thinking that Joe Pesci looked like a boozed up Gazza.

    Think I'll give Goodfella's and Casino a dust off.
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    Watched it Saturday night, after the dross of a lot of movies released recently, thought this was just great Pesci was tremendous, the rest weren’t bad

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    As others have said: too long, too slow. There's a great two-hour movie somewhere in that three hour twenty minute cut.

    Quote Originally Posted by bond View Post
    Somebody mentioned when was the last time De-niro gave a great performance and not a pastiche of himself where his on/off screen depiction is indistinguishable.
    The Warburton's bread adverts, surely?
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    Rather than write my own review, this sums it up for me. The ageing thing was awful and simply didn’t work. Once Upon a Time in America is a far superior film.

    Quote Originally Posted by deepreddave View Post
    I'm a big fan of those involved and the genre but I thought this was poor. Too slow, predictable and the ageing didn't work for me at all in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwg663 View Post
    As others have said: too long, too slow. There's a great two-hour movie somewhere in that three hour twenty minute cut.



    The Warburton's bread adverts, surely?
    AHH of course the bagels ad which is a spoof off of analyse this/that which of course is a spoof of his goodfellas/casino days. He's more layers of wiseguy than an onion and none of the makings of a varsity athlete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bond View Post
    I'll treat the run time like 3 episodes of Sopranos . Easily watched .

    Somebody mentioned when was the last time De-niro gave a great performance and not a pastiche of himself where his on/off screen depiction is indistinguishable. I tend to have to agree with this view .

    His last great film was somewhere in the 90s : A Bronx tale , The Untouchables , Heat , Casino, Sleepers.

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    Mad Dog & Glory

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    Quote Originally Posted by amnesia View Post
    Meet the Fockers ?

    "Jinksy cat, Jinksy cat, I love you."

    Pretty good in that.
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    I've watched it all now and must say it was instantly forgettable. Godfather, Casino and Once Upon a Time in America have stayed with me for twenty and thirty years but I doubt I'll remember this for long at all.

    The good:

    - Pesci and Pacino were fabulous - rightly considered screen legends. It felt like Pesci, always the little guy, was now a 'made' guy in mob and acting personas!
    - The story was told very well
    - Sets and costumes were amazing
    - Violence levels were just right; never tripped over into violence for the sake of violence
    - All of the supporting characters and their actors were spot-on
    - I admire Scorcese for attempting to cover all eras with the same actors, however....

    The not so good:

    - De-ageing simply wasn't good enough; not enough clear definition of eras
    - De Niro. He played the same character as he always plays. The mumbling and down-turned mouth. I'm pretty sure that's just him in real life. So many times throughout the film I thought he was going through the motions and picking up his cheque. Pacino showed yet another new character, he was Jimmy Hoffa, not Al Pacino. The gulf between De Niro and Pacino was massive.
    - Too long. I watched it as a three-part mini-series and it worked well but to sit through it in one go would be tough.

    Overall Score:

    3.5 / 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogthrob View Post



    (1) Goodfellas (1990) was good, Casino (1995) was excellent, but what other good mobster films have there been in the meantime? The Departed, obviously, but what else? I've been unimpressed with others like American Gangster and Black Mass. I'm sure I'm forgetting some though :-)
    Carlito’s Way.

    Absolutely brilliant.

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    Agreed, brilliant. I'd also say Donnie Brasco.

    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    Carlito’s Way.

    Absolutely brilliant.

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    The Drop?
    (although the 'mob' in this case are not Sicilian)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bond View Post
    .... none of the makings of a varsity athlete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sausage View Post
    Junior? That you?
    I can't remember- remember?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    Agreed, brilliant. I'd also say Donnie Brasco.
    HBO's TV film - Gotti, which stars Armand Assante as the teflon don himself. It's as good as or better than most mob movies and knocks spots off of Travoltas portrayal. Good old Frank Merino or Billy Baths is in there for good measure as Robert DeBernado played by legendary mob actor Frank Vincent ( whom we can never forget as Phil Leotardo in Sopranos). William Forsythe is in there as Sammy the Bull Gravano. The film captured John's rise and fall very well.

    A Bronx tale - shoe on the other foot in this one for De niro as he's the father of a boy befriended by the local made guy (Chazz Palimentri whom wrote the screenplay and show) who is trying to impress on the child after witnessing him murder someone . Joe Pesci in there for good measure. Excellent period film 50/60s and clothing.

    Donnie Brasco - as mentioned for well an amazing Pacino as the passed over , 'spoke in a wheel' aged mobster. Michael Madsen also excellent.

    With my current viewing of Irishman , it's lovely to watch and see but as mentioned it doesn't have that capacity for me to retain scenes or dialogue the way Goodfellas, Casino did. They flowed fluidly .

    I also think Godfather 1 + 2 are the best modern (ish)mob films but NOT from the shop floor point of view , 3 is great and still beats irishman imo .

    Prior to the 70s , Angels with Dirty faces , public enemy with Jimmy Cagney are excellent and Rod Steiger as Capone was simply brilliant.

    Not many mentions for The Untouchables with Deniro which is also excellent.

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