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    New film trailer - The Irishman.

    I really fancy this.

    I love those Scorsese films and I'm sure it will be the last time that De Niro, Pacino and Peschi will be in a film together.

    All based on a true story that was interwoven with real '60's events.

    It's on Netflix in November.

    Trailer is mouth watering, and I see Ray Romano (everybody loves Raymond) is in it too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil.C View Post
    De Niro, Pacino and Peschi
    Which one's the Irishman ?

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    I have big hopes for this movie, please let it be the best gangster movie of this decade

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    Netflix again though :(

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    Here's a link to the previous thread on this movie:

    https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...o-Pesci-Keitel
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    The trailer looks even than the teaser.

    I have to re-watch 'Heat'. The only other film with Pacino and De Niro acting together.

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    Isn't this the film De Niro had to wear Herman Munster Boots to make him look taller in some scenes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thieuster View Post
    The trailer looks even than the teaser.

    I have to re-watch 'Heat'. The only other film with Pacino and De Niro acting together.

    Menno
    Casino / Goodfellas are better off without Pacino though IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by xellos99 View Post
    Casino / Goodfellas are better off without Pacino though IMO
    Well he wasn't in them so how would we ever know ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    Well he wasn't in them so how would we ever know ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thieuster View Post
    The trailer looks even than the teaser.

    I have to re-watch 'Heat'. The only other film with Pacino and De Niro acting together.

    Menno
    Apart from Righteous Kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Chilli View Post
    Apart from Righteous Kill.

    I stand corrected! Cheers!

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    They are using some kind of CGI to make the actors look more youthful for the earlier scenes.

    Be interesting to see how that works out.
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    Looks really good, radio 1 was talking about this last night. It will go into cinemas for a couple of weeks first then onto netfilx as to win BAFTA’s it has to be in cinemas haha

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    De Niro, Pacino and Pesci have never been in a film together until now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kungfupanda View Post
    De Niro, Pacino and Pesci have never been in a film together until now.
    I guess it will be the first and last time.
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    Oh, this should be phenomenal!


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    This is available on Netflix now guys

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    Best Mob film ever I reckon. Better than the Godfather

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Best Mob film ever I reckon. Better than the Godfather
    Wow. High praise indeed. Will need to watch later this week in that case.

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    Saving this for Saturday night. Indian takeaway and a mob movie with a few beers. Perfect.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyp1973 View Post
    Saving this for Saturday night. Indian takeaway and a mob movie with a few beers. Perfect.


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    I said exactly the same to the wife this evening!
    Really looking forward to it.
    Cheers..
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    Very good 👍:)
    It's just a matter of time...

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    It’s a fantastic film, I couldn’t wait and watched it last night. Much to the Good Lady’s dismay!

    It’s definitely up there in the top ten but greatest mob film of all time? Not sure that title would divide opinion for me!

    Personally Goodfellas, Once Upon A Time In America, The Godfather 1&2 and Casino take some beating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyp1973 View Post
    Saving this for Saturday night. Indian takeaway and a mob movie with a few beers. Perfect.


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    Sounds like a plan! Think I will do exactly the same...

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    Watched it last night. 3.5h and loved every bit. Highly recommended.

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    Am fighting the urge to watch this immediately but have promised the kids I would wait until Friday night when they are all home........


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoodles View Post
    It’s a fantastic film, I couldn’t wait and watched it last night. Much to the Good Lady’s dismay!

    It’s definitely up there in the top ten but greatest mob film of all time? Not sure that title would divide opinion for me!

    Personally Goodfellas, Once Upon A Time In America, The Godfather 1&2 and Casino take some beating.
    For me the reason I put it above the others is the moralistic slant it takes, with lots of retrospective analysis on the part of De Niro's character. Rather than just being a Mob film it also identifies and analyses the impact of being a Mobster on a human.

    Best Mob film or not I think we can safely agree it's 3.5 hours well spent

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    Excellent movie, great performances and captivating throughout

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberjack View Post
    This is available on Netflix now guys
    We'll be watching it tonight after our thanksgiving dinner.

    Really looking forward to it. The trailer had my juices going!
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    Friday night it is! Quietly, on my own. My wife is in Chicago, one of the boys is off to a dinner with his sailing mates, the other has just finished building a new computer, so he'll be busy as well.

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    Saturday night planned for us - a genuine 'Netflix & Chill' night.

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    Told my wife this will be our viewing for Saturday night and we’ll be settling around 8 as it’s a long movie. The chances of her watching it until the end in one sitting are minimal though so will be wathing at least the second half twice!

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    As said, my wife is currently in Chicago and today, Thanksgivingday, all is very quiet. Most offices are empty, shops close early. I sent her a WhatsApp message and told her about The Irishman on Netflix. Guess she'll be watching that on a tablet in her hotel room this very evening. A day before I can see it. Mmmmmm.

    Contrary to a lot of better halfs here on TZ, my wife is big fan of this kind of movies and series.

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    Watched it last night.

    I don't know if I had built it up in my mind too much but I found it disappointing.

    The acting was great but to be honest three and a half hours for such a slight story was stretching it a fair bit.

    I liked the historic background but it doesn't come close to the greats like Goodfellas, Casino et al in my opinion.

    I'll be interested to hear others opinions when they watch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil.C View Post
    Watched it last night.

    I don't know if I had built it up in my mind too much but I found it disappointing.

    The acting was great but to be honest three and a half hours for such a slight story was stretching it a fair bit.

    I liked the historic background but it doesn't come close to the greats like Goodfellas, Casino et al in my opinion.

    I'll be interested to hear others opinions when they watch it.
    I posted similar viewpoint on the film thread after I saw it at the cinema

    Each to their own, but first hour was great and then it became quite tedious.


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    i did no think much of what i saw either, my brain had melted from boredom after 1.5hrs , although they did a pretty good job with the 'de-aging' effects you cant change an older persons stance and speed etc ( when de niros character gave the shop keeper a 'beating' it looked like a 90 year old trying to kick a penny along the pavement )

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    Watched it last night. It was ok but not great. Pesci was excellent, Pacino above average but De Niro phoned it in. Film itself looked great but was long and slow. Agree with above poster about the De Niro beating, laughable.

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    I think that Scorsese had a Magnus Opus in mind with this film, probably the last one with all those great names from his old films (when was the last time you saw Harvey Keitel in a movie?). Great job that Pesci had a big role in this one.

    A few things I noticed: the harmonica playing the first three notes from The Godfather tune when Russ and Frank meet and break bread. The scene with selecting the guns for a hit reminds of the gun-buying deal in Taxi Driver. Hoffa sitting next to water refers to Godfather III.

    Furthermore: wonderful decors and the attention to clothing is fantastic. Dunno about the watches, though.

    There's an interview on Netflix with De Niro, Scorsese, Pesci and Pacino about making the film. Worth watching.

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    Not a perfect film, nothing groundbreaking, and in some ways formulaic, but one of the best mobster films of the last 24 years(1). Acting wise, Pesci was outstanding (Oscar worthy imo), Pacino was great, and I so nearly forgot it was Pacino at times (2). Keitel was magnificently menacing, and I'd have loved him to have had a bigger part. De Niro seems to have two acting modes these days - serious and comedic. This was him in serious mode. Actually, saying 'these days' might be rather generous. It's a sad question to have to ask, but how long ago was his last great performance?

    The story was good, and it's a believeable version of what happened to Jimmy Hoffa (his killer being Frank Sheeran aside). The digital de-aging was almost perfect, but unfortunately the human brain is capable of detecting even the slightest imperfections. The set and locations were perfect - what was on screen was exactly what you thought it should be.

    It's interesting that some have said it's long and parts are boring, in as much as it's on Netflix - who arguably changed the premier story telling mode from film to TV, and made 'movies' a short form format.

    My overall impression? It's good enough to have made me want to sit here and write about it. Not many films make me do that. My lasting feeling is a kind of sadness that Pesci is retired while still having great performances to give.




    (1) Goodfellas (1990) was good, Casino (1995) was excellent, but what other good mobster films have there been in the meantime? The Departed, obviously, but what else? I've been unimpressed with others like American Gangster and Black Mass. I'm sure I'm forgetting some though :-)

    (2) When Pacino was sat by the water in the Adirondac chair, was anyone else reminded of Michael Corleone at the end of Godfather II?





    Edit: It was quite a long time from starting writing this post, to posting this post, and I didn't see Thieuster's post above before making mine. He seems to agree with me on a couple of points though :-)
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    It looks like a good film, but at three and a half hours, I really can't be bothered. Same reason I've not watched the latest avengers.

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    A bit shorter than other reviews...

    A really good film, worth the 3+ hours watch.

    Not the eternal classic that some claim though ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thieuster View Post
    I think that Scorsese had a Magnus Opus in mind with this film, probably the last one with all those great names from his old films (when was the last time you saw Harvey Keitel in a movie?). Great job that Pesci had a big role in this one.

    A few things I noticed: the harmonica playing the first three notes from The Godfather tune when Russ and Frank meet and break bread. The scene with selecting the guns for a hit reminds of the gun-buying deal in Taxi Driver. Hoffa sitting next to water refers to Godfather III.

    Furthermore: wonderful decors and the attention to clothing is fantastic. Dunno about the watches, though.

    There's an interview on Netflix with De Niro, Scorsese, Pesci and Pacino about making the film. Worth watching.
    I watched it recently and would like to know which watch was worn by Al Pacino playing Jimmy Hoffa...pic link 1...pic link 2?

    There used to be a website that identified watches in movies but it is no longer working. Any ideas, please?

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    Had to watch it in 3 stints....too long never really captured my full attention....

    Pesci was as others have said the star such an under used actor....

    The issue with Bobby is that i think he has become himself on and off screen ....ever seen him interviewed ? Exactly as he comes across in movie roles lately....

    I must watch Cape Fear and Angel Heart to reinvigorate my De Niro appreciation.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogthrob View Post
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    Not a perfect film, nothing groundbreaking, and in some ways formulaic, but one of the best mobster films of the last 24 years(1). Acting wise, Pesci was outstanding (Oscar worthy imo), Pacino was great, and I so nearly forgot it was Pacino at times (2). Keitel was magnificently menacing, and I'd have loved him to have had a bigger part. De Niro seems to have two acting modes these days - serious and comedic. This was him in serious mode. Actually, saying 'these days' might be rather generous. It's a sad question to have to ask, but how long ago was his last great performance?

    The story was good, and it's a believeable version of what happened to Jimmy Hoffa (his killer being Frank Sheeran aside). The digital de-aging was almost perfect, but unfortunately the human brain is capable of detecting even the slightest imperfections. The set and locations were perfect - what was on screen was exactly what you thought it should be.

    It's interesting that some have said it's long and parts are boring, in as much as it's on Netflix - who arguably changed the premier story telling mode from film to TV, and made 'movies' a short form format.

    My overall impression? It's good enough to have made me want to sit here and write about it. Not many films make me do that. My lasting feeling is a kind of sadness that Pesci is retired while still having great performances to give.




    (1) Goodfellas (1990) was good, Casino (1995) was excellent, but what other good mobster films have there been in the meantime? The Departed, obviously, but what else? I've been unimpressed with others like American Gangster and Black Mass. I'm sure I'm forgetting some though :-)

    (2) When Pacino was sat by the water in the Adirondac chair, was anyone else reminded of Michael Corleone at the end of Godfather II?





    Edit: It was quite a long time from starting writing this post, to posting this post, and I didn't see Thieuster's post above before making mine. He seems to agree with me on a couple of points though :-)
    Watching the documentary after watching the movie learned me that Sheeran was a real-life figure who, just before he died in 73, confessed having killed Hoffa. There's a large wiki page about him.

    Furthermore: you're right: Godfather II, not III. Besides that, I think that the fish scene refers to 'Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes'. I see no other use for that scene.
    The most impressive digital solution was the (long) scene with 'young' De Niro and Pesci. They really looked like the way they once looked.

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    Not bad but not brilliant. Jack Nicholson played a better Jimmy Hoffa than Pacino.

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    Watched it last night. Well worth sitting through the run time in my opinion, loved all aspects of it.

    In this age of collective attention deficit as regards films its heartening that something intended for the mainstream of this length has been made.

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    I watched this last night.
    I quite like long films providing the writing and acting are up to scratch and the plot holds your concentration. There was well enough of all three in this, I never got bored. JFK was another of these I enjoyed.
    The aging effects were believable but I'd agree that the casts old bodies gave them away at times.
    The Irishman, whilst not "up there" for me was still a great watch and if you are a fan of mob films a must see. A stellar cast which also includes some great fringe actors like Ray Romano (Get Shorty - TV version) and our own Stephen Graham.
    I'm not De Niros greatest fan and this was a standard De Niro performance, intense and deliberate. Al Pacino was very good as always. Harvey Keitel never makes a bad movie and probably could of played any of the main characters, I'd also like to have seen more of him. I doubt you will see any more of Pesci and this alone is a good enough reason to watch this film.
    Scorsese is great story teller and with this cast it was always going to be a winner.
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    If you enjoy Al Pacino using the word “c*cksucker” like a comma, this will be your favourite film since Glengarry Glen Ross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    Watched it last night. Well worth sitting through the run time in my opinion, loved all aspects of it.

    In this age of collective attention deficit as regards films its heartening that something intended for the mainstream of this length has been made.
    If the time is well used.

    I'm glad you enjoyed the film but by contrast I watched Stanley Kubrick's The Killing last night, an incredibly tense film noir from 1956 which timed out at 1 hour and 24 minutes with not a second wasted.

    I'm probably rather scathing because I had such high hopes for The Irishman (I started the thread).
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