Source for RNVR NATO

[berin]

I have my ceramic no date sub on one of Eddie’s NATO’s, in RNVR colours which I really like, but it’s become frayed at the edges so I’d
I’d like a new one.

Any ideas where I might find one, maybe even a bit heavier weight than the TF one?


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[Sinnlover]

Try...
WatchGecko or Phoenix
I think both do the RNVR colours

[berin]

Thanks, found a similar one at CWC, I’ll keep an eye out for TF opening too


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[Sinnlover]

Thanks, found a similar one at CWC, I’ll keep an eye out for TF opening too


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I think you will find the CWC NATO fantastic quality
They are the only ones that beat Phoenix IMHO.
Eddies are great but I do not like the newer style hardware.

[Speedy2254]

Showing my ignorance, what are the RNVR colours?

[berin]

http://timefactors.com/tfnatog10bondrnvr.htm


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[Speedy2254]

http://timefactors.com/tfnatog10bondrnvr.htm


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Aha, mucho thanko. I knew there was a Bond connection with the RNVR but I didn't know what the actual colours were.

[berin]

I really like the colours, the CWC one is similar but I prefer the TF one,for colours at least - the strap itself is a bit flimsy and is unraveling after only a few wears


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[PickleB]

Showing my ignorance, what are the RNVR colours?

Here are the tie designs for:

the RN



the RNR



the RNVR


pictures courtesy of eBay seller military gift compan

...and here is the RN NATO


picture courtesy of eBay seller exexsec


And so I would expect a RNVR NATO to have the same colours but with a wavy line.

I believe that the colours of a 'true' Bond NATO derive from the ribbon of the Decoration for Officers of the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve
(VRD see wiki) and/or the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Long Service and Good Conduct Medal (see wiki).

[Speedy2254]

Here are the tie designs for:

the RN



the RNR



the RNVR


pictures courtesy of eBay seller military gift compan

...and here is the RN NATO


picture courtesy of eBay seller exexsec


And so I would expect a RNVR NATO to have the same colours but with a wavy line.

I believe that the colours of a 'true' Bond NATO derive from the ribbon of the Decoration for Officers of the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve
(VRD see wiki) and/or the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Long Service and Good Conduct Medal (see wiki).

Not for nothing was the RNVR called the "Wavy Navy"! Thanks for the ties, I didn't know the designs, though I knew the colours. As an officer I think Cmndr Bond is unlikely to have held the LS & GC?

[PickleB]

Not for nothing was the RNVR called the "Wavy Navy"! Thanks for the ties, I didn't know the designs, though I knew the colours. As an officer I think Cmndr Bond is unlikely to have held the LS & GC?

You are right, as an officer Bond would have been eligible for the VD rather than the LS & GC medal. The only question is whether he could have got in the 20 years of service necessary for the award. As I understand it he supposedly was a Lt in 1941 and rose to the rank of Cdr during the hostilities. After that...? His only decoration mentioned in fiction is the CMG.

[Speedy2254]

You are right, as an officer Bond would have been eligible for the VD rather than the LS & GC medal. The only question is whether he could have got in the 20 years of service necessary for the award. As I understand it he supposedly was a Lt in 1941 and rose to the rank of Cdr during the hostilities. After that...? His only decoration mentioned in fiction is the CMG.

I believe the Order of St Michael & St George is linked to the Foreign & Commonwealth Office. My inner schoolboy is chuckling at the idea of a naval officer with the letters "VD" after his name...
Does the canon suggest which branch Bond served in? In The World is Not Enough he appears in uniform, showing what look like SAS wings from their shape & position. I can't recall the ribbons (if any) on his jacket.

[PickleB]

I'm led to believe that it was Naval Intelligence. As for the wings, see the second of these two: link1; link2.

[CriticalMass]

There can’t be much of a market for RNVR items these days as it was merged into the RNR in 1958. Any ex-RNVR personnel will be 80+ now.

[Speedy2254]

I'm led to believe that it was Naval Intelligence. As for the wings, see the second of these two: link1; link2.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/1...r_path/?page=2

This article suggests that they are SAS wings & that there are also FAA wings on the left sleeve that we missed...

[PickleB]

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/1...r_path/?page=2

This article suggests that they are SAS wings & that there are also FAA wings on the left sleeve that we missed...

Probably best explained by an over enthusiastic producer or the costume department having a bad day.