Mac OS Catalina

[Pitfitter]

Be aware that the download and install can take an age. Lots of users, me included, had the install “hang” And had to take the risky step of turning the machine off mid-install because nothing else works. Works fine now but it was a wasted morning.

Did mine the other night, took three attempts to complete, it failed twice at download, all seems ok so far but, because it took so long I had to talk to herself whilst waiting for completion, FFS.

[eldrich]

Not that impressed, I'm an old school Unix guy and this has moved OS X further away from Unix again, at this rate I can see us moving to WinDoze and Powershell/WSL in the future.

A few big things for us, bash has been replaced with zsh - easy to swap at the moment but you can bet it won't be as easy in the future. It's harder to run non=blessed programs than before - even emailed pdfs/docx files send in from others can not be opened unless you turn the security settings off - this is harder/less reliable to do than before. Apple supplied programs have moved to /System/Applications and only user ones are in /Applications now which has broken a lot of our stuff.

Annoying but we're concerned about the future and it getting harder and harder to support in our Linux environment - it really does look that Windows 10 has better Unix support now than Os X which is something v strange to say.

[burnside]

I think I'll wait a little longer then.

I'm certainly not keen on losing my MS Office I've only just got 2019.

Best,

Ben

[ajdh]

I think I'll wait a little longer then.

I'm certainly not keen on losing my MS Office I've only just got 2019.

Best,

Ben

I have version Home and Student 2019 and it works OK.

[JAMP0T1]

I think I'll wait a little longer then.

I'm certainly not keen on losing my MS Office I've only just got 2019.

Best,

Ben

Updating hasn't changed anything for me with regards to MS Office.

JAMP0T1

[burnside]

I might give it a shot then.

[robt]

Updating hasn't changed anything for me with regards to MS Office.

Office 2011 won't work because it's 32-bit. Later versions should be OK.

The fact I'm still on 2011, rarely use it (but do occasionally need it) and don't want to give Microsoft another £200 for an upgrade I don't want is perhaps the biggest reason I'm not upgrading yet, along with issues eldrich mentioned.

[dkpw]

And now 10.15.1

After a couple of hours using it, issues I had with NordVPN and the GIMP - slowness and menus respectively - are resolved. It feels a little more responsive.

As they say, always wait til the .1 upgrade. :)

[Middo]

Ah yes, that is rather annoying - I've now lost my old MS Office. Bugger !

What year was office? I have 2016 and don’t want to pay the 365 subscription.

[dickdutch]

And now 10.15.1

After a couple of hours using it, issues I had with NordVPN and the GIMP - slowness and menus respectively - are resolved. It feels a little more responsive.

As they say, always wait til the .1 upgrade. :)

And 10.15.2 is currently being beta tested.

[MartynJC (UK)]

That looks very good Phil, thanks. I’ll download the trial and give it a go.

For Photo Editing I use "Affinity Photo" - it's a one off payment and includes updates - look out for 'black Friday' deals. Works a bit differently to PS / LR - but super powerful. Has a trial version too (time limited).

[MartynJC (UK)]

I think I'll wait a little longer then.

I'm certainly not keen on losing my MS Office I've only just got 2019.

Best,

Ben

You should be ok - I have Office 2019 running fine - it's 64bit

[Middo]

Mac office 2016 will also run, you need to have the latest updates v15.25 before you upgrade.