closing tag is in template navbar
timefactors watches



TZ-UK Fundraiser
Results 1 to 50 of 55

Thread: BMW M4 reliability and MPG

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Master
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Oxfordshire
    Posts
    2,305
    Blog Entries
    1

    BMW M4 reliability and MPG

    Hi guys, I’m hoping we have a few M4 owners on here. I’ve just had an agreed settlement figure for my stolen SL350 and am thinking of an M4 as my next car, however I do about 300 miles a week so am interested in anyone who has a 3 or 4 year old one and has owned it for a while with any feedback on issues you may have had and MPG in the real world. Most of my journey is A roads and motorway so I’m hoping I can max my fuel return if I keep off the loud pedal as much as my self control allows!
    Many thanks in advance

  2. #2
    I had a 2018 CP, it returned 27-31 mpg, if I drove it like a complete dick 15mpg.
    Not my favourite car, had some serious mapping issues, stick it in sport plus and it will kangaroo all the way down the road unless you floor it.

  3. #3
    Master
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Oxfordshire
    Posts
    2,305
    Blog Entries
    1
    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post
    I had a 2018 CP, it returned 27-31 mpg, if I drove it like a complete dick 15mpg.
    Not my favourite car, had some serious mapping issues, stick it in sport plus and it will kangaroo all the way down the road unless you floor it.
    Thanks Adrian, that’s interesting but not good about the kangaroo business, never had that with m cars or amg Mercedes before

  4. #4
    Master
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    uk
    Posts
    2,118
    Had a M4 now a M3, never had that problem. If I was you I would ask the same question over on the M3 Cutters Forum as you will get a bigger audience of owners.

  5. #5
    Master mjrennie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Manc exiled in Coventry
    Posts
    1,347
    I had an M3 F80 for 3 years. Honestly? By far the best car I've had. Not a single issue, not one. MPG is entirely down to how you poke the beast. 33 is achievable on a long run. I'd expect late 20s most of the time.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by bobdog View Post
    Had a M4 now a M3, never had that problem. If I was you I would ask the same question over on the M3 Cutters Forum as you will get a bigger audience of owners.
    I used Cutters. Very good forum.

  6. #6
    Grand Master TaketheCannoli's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    19,068
    Why would you buy an M4 if you’re worried about the cost of fuel? Genuine question.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post
    I had a 2018 CP, it returned 27-31 mpg, if I drove it like a complete dick 15mpg.
    Not my favourite car, had some serious mapping issues, stick it in sport plus and it will kangaroo all the way down the road unless you floor it.
    I’ve experience this in my m3,I find it’s better to get it rolling first before putting foot down


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  8. #8
    Grand Master thieuster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    GMT+1
    Posts
    11,801
    Blog Entries
    8
    When MPG is an issue, why not a Diesel? BMW's diesels are very frugal.

    M

  9. #9
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Dublin/London
    Posts
    886
    Quote Originally Posted by mk1974 View Post
    I’ve experience this in my m3,I find it’s better to get it rolling first before putting foot down


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Same for me, once you are moving it’s fine but I’ve been caught out a few times at junctions/lights.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Enda View Post
    Same for me, once you are moving it’s fine but I’ve been caught out a few times at junctions/lights.
    It is appallingly poor mapping, BMW say it is a race setting, of course that is rubbish, it is a road car, if you research Bimmerfest or M3 cutters, people put the gearbox map out of the GTS in and it fixes it, you can get it for about £80. trouble was mine was new and BMW said it would invalidate the warranty, so I could fix it but they couldn't, answer was buy an Mercedes.

  11. #11
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Shropshire (unsurprisingly)
    Posts
    492
    I got about 27mpg out of my M4. No mapping or fueling issues though.

    Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

  12. #12
    Master
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Oxfordshire
    Posts
    2,305
    Blog Entries
    1
    Thanks guys, I will have a look on the M3 cutters site too. Really appreciate your input.

  13. #13
    Journeyman
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    143
    I've heard about issues with turbos and oil consumption on the FB group.

    Sent from my SM-G965F using TZ-UK mobile app

  14. #14
    Master
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Location
    Kent
    Posts
    1,971
    Must admit I always find the mpg questions funny on sports cars, especially a 3.0 straight 6, twin turbo with 425bhp. I guess it’s trying to justify the purchase when it’s not the best option maybe.

    I’ve always had performance cars though and people will often say to me “yeah I’d like one but the running costs & fuel” The thing with the right purchase is you could spend £12k on a performance car and sell it 3 years later for similar money (in fact my car is worth a lot more than I paid 6 years ago) your mate that thinks you’re throwing money away running it has spent £12k on a diesel Mondeo and loses £7k when he px’s it in after spending £1k on a set of injectors.

    My mate is a good one for the running cost thing. He’s loaded & loves cars yet when I used to try & get him into something sporty he’d always say about the running costs. He daily’s a van and only uses a car for pleasure stuff too. I was trying to get him in a GTR but he was concerned about the brakes etc yet the last car he owned cost him £15k and he sold it for £6k.
    Last edited by jameswrx; 11th October 2019 at 08:34.

  15. #15
    Grand Master thieuster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    GMT+1
    Posts
    11,801
    Blog Entries
    8
    Sit down and do the maths. Let's say your car is doing 40 mpg. You can figure out the annual costs for that. Then do the maths again for a car that does -let's say- 30 mpg. The difference between that is what you're talking about. Compare the '40 minus 30 mpg' amount with the sum you're paying for an M4 and you'll become aware that the difference in fuel costs are pocket money compared with the purchase price of an M4.

    In short: mpg would not be something I'd worry about when I'm looking for an M4. Eighter you're willing to fork out money or not.

    On the other hand: doing a 120 miles trip in a small car as you suggested... Bigger cars provide more safety and are more comfortable. Especially the latter would be my first concern: 'How comfortable is the car of my choice!?' Anything with 'M' on the badge is not on top of my mind, comfort-wise. Ano comfortable 5-series 6-pot long-distance-cruiser or an Audi would be my car of preference.

    Menno
    Last edited by thieuster; 11th October 2019 at 13:13.

  16. #16
    I’d do an extended test drive in one first, it’s quite full on for long commutes. Not owned one, but not sure if the exhaust sound would grate over time too.

  17. #17
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Shropshire (unsurprisingly)
    Posts
    492
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt8500 View Post
    I’d do an extended test drive in one first, it’s quite full on for long commutes. Not owned one, but not sure if the exhaust sound would grate over time too.
    It doesn't. If you leave the throttle response in default the cars pretty quiet. The road presence though can be waring as people you come up behind get fidgety and you can see with many people (men of course lol) that they feel the need to speed up or change their behaviour in some way.

    Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Shropshire Lad View Post
    It doesn't. If you leave the throttle response in default the cars pretty quiet. The road presence though can be waring as people you come up behind get fidgety and you can see with many people (men of course lol) that they feel the need to speed up or change their behaviour in some way.

    Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
    Interesting you say that, I was chatting to the owner of the M specialist garage I use and he said the same thing. The m4 attracts the wrong sort of attention!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  19. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt8500 View Post
    Interesting you say that, I was chatting to the owner of the M specialist garage I use and he said the same thing. The m4 attracts the wrong sort of attention!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    That’s quite interesting, while I had the M4 I was propositioned twice by mid twenties girls, both saying they would do anything for a ride in the M4, one works in Euro car parts and says it is here all time favourite car, haven’t got a clue about the other. And I’m old

  20. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post
    That’s quite interesting, while I had the M4 I was propositioned twice by mid twenties girls, both saying they would do anything for a ride in the M4, one works in Euro car parts and says it is here all time favourite car, haven’t got a clue about the other. And I’m old
    That’s hilarious. I’ve never been propositioned in a car. I just seem to attract blokes who want you to rev, or race them, if you’re in something half decent. Think I’d prefer your situation!

  21. #21
    Grand Master wileeeeeey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    N/A
    Posts
    19,236
    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post
    That’s quite interesting, while I had the M4 I was propositioned twice by mid twenties girls, both saying they would do anything for a ride in the M4, one works in Euro car parts and says it is here all time favourite car, haven’t got a clue about the other. And I’m old
    I'm early 30s. Which euro car parts and does anyone have an M4 I can borrow? Full tank and valet on return

  22. #22
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Shropshire (unsurprisingly)
    Posts
    492
    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post
    That’s quite interesting, while I had the M4 I was propositioned twice by mid twenties girls, both saying they would do anything for a ride in the M4, one works in Euro car parts and says it is here all time favourite car, haven’t got a clue about the other. And I’m old
    I must have chosen the wrong colour!

    Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

  23. #23
    Master Maysie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Middle of Nowhere (UK)
    Posts
    2,571
    Quote Originally Posted by Shropshire Lad View Post
    It doesn't. If you leave the throttle response in default the cars pretty quiet. The road presence though can be waring as people you come up behind get fidgety and you can see with many people (men of course lol) that they feel the need to speed up or change their behaviour in some way.

    Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
    I can picture this immediately.

    The general offender is probably driving a Corsa of Clio, with massive wheels, massive exhaust and the suspension lowered.
    Looking coooool.

  24. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Maysie View Post
    I can picture this immediately.

    The general offender is probably driving a Corsa of Clio, with massive wheels, massive exhaust and the suspension lowered.
    Looking coooool.
    2.0 TDi VW Passat drivers I find are the most insecure with something to prove to you if you have a quick car

  25. #25
    Master Maysie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Middle of Nowhere (UK)
    Posts
    2,571
    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard View Post
    2.0 TDi VW Passat drivers I find are the most insecure with something to prove to you if you have a quick car
    Wanted the A4 or 320d perhaps, but didn't make that grade of company car from the lease list?

  26. #26
    Master endo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    Scotland
    Posts
    1,259
    Quote Originally Posted by Maysie View Post
    I can picture this immediately.

    The general offender is probably driving a Corsa of Clio, with massive wheels, massive exhaust and the suspension lowered.
    Looking coooool.

    Flip side to this M3/4, 911, AMG & Audi RS drivers get twitchy and obnoxious when they see a Skyline in their rear view, despite it being a 30 y/o bag of bolts.


    Back on topic
    OH has a Yas Marina M4, nice enough, dont like its inability to creeep at low speed (for parking) and the dimensions are ludicrous for a coupe, it makes the Range Rover look like a toy.

    MPG seems decent enough for the power, especially on a cruise from Scotland to Silverstone.

  27. #27
    I think that why the M240 is popular, similar speed (straight line) to a M2/M4 but with is much nicer as a daily driver and much cheaper to buy and run. The one downside is the handling which puts the M2/M4 miles ahead

  28. #28
    Spend 20k on a 240 ,it’s still a 240 not an m2/4.
    I know what I’d rather have .


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  29. #29
    M240i is a good car, had a M235i myself for a while but it's still no proper 'M' car, drive one and you see where the extra money for the M went.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Do Not Sell My Personal Information