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    £4K Suggestions...?

    Looking for suggestions. My mate is looking for a new piece to go with his moonwatch.

    Blank sheet so new, used, strap, bracelet, sports, dress etc, but £4kish budget

    Any thought?

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    What about a Breitling Superocean Heritage 2?

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    White dial Rolex Oyster Perpetual 39.

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    39mm oyster perpetual £4350

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    36mm DJ. Pref 116234 white dial with Romans on jubilee but that may be just out of budget.

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    Omega pair? Seamaster!

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    Second hand Omega PO

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisparker View Post
    White dial Rolex Oyster Perpetual 39.
    Quote Originally Posted by pete-r View Post
    Looking for suggestions. My mate is looking for a new piece to go with his moonwatch.

    Blank sheet so new, used, strap, bracelet, sports, dress etc, but £4kish budget

    Any thought?
    If your mate decides to go with the OP39mm white, drop me a pm. Am considering selling it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus.furius View Post
    Second hand Omega PO

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    Such a great photo. Is that the 42mm?


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    Quote Originally Posted by watchstudent View Post
    Such a great photo. Is that the 42mm?


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    No. It's the latest 44mm with the cal. 8900

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    Interesting, thanks. Did you buy it new?

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    No. It's the latest 44mm with the cal. 8900

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    Quote Originally Posted by watchstudent View Post
    Interesting, thanks. Did you buy it new?
    It's a 2017 model purchased second hand. Full set, Omega warranty etc.

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    It would be an Omega SMP 300 if it was my choice.

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    Is he unable do do his own research? I.e walk into some watch shops? Sorry if I'm cynical but if budget seems to be the only determining factor, then the individual probably doesn't care what watch they end up with, just the image it conveys.

    Tell him to go into some shops and buy a watch he likes.

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    With a budget of £4K I would get a BB58 and keep the change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hafle View Post
    Is he unable do do his own research? I.e walk into some watch shops? Sorry if I'm cynical but if budget seems to be the only determining factor, then the individual probably doesn't care what watch they end up with, just the image it conveys.

    Tell him to go into some shops and buy a watch he likes.
    Not so much that, he asked me for any suggestions outside of the high street options because I have an interest and he doesn't want to buy badly.

    He doesn't know what's out there, what's a good financial bet or what value he can get if he goes used. I'm sure I don't know all the options either so thought I'd ask the room.

    He will decide what he likes but asked me for help on the stuff to look at or avoid. Being equally cynical he could end up buying something crap if uninformed (TAG Carrera instantly jumps to mind).

    There was a time when I started out where I knew nothing outside of Rolex, Omega, Rotary and Seiko.

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    Some good options here thanks folks.

    I think a shortlist of these would be worth seeing.

    New
    Rolex OP
    Tudor BB58 or the new black pvd chrono
    Seamaster 300

    Used
    Globemaster
    Defy classic
    JLC Squadra hometime

    We are in central London so a think a lunchtime expedition to watchfinder is needed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeremyO View Post
    It would be an Omega SMP 300 if it was my choice.

    https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/w...ection/product
    Great choice, they are a great watch.
    https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/w...21030422003001

    Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything.

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    The PAM 590 currently on SC looks like a good option to me.

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    The PAM 590 currently on SC looks like a good option to me.

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    Buy a used Longines for a few hundred and blow the rest on women and booze

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    What about a Tudor Chrono, blue dial?

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    I can’t relate to this way of buying a new watch at all.

    I’d enjoy the watch I have until I see another watch that would either compliment or replace my existing watch. Then I would buy it.
    I can see the merit in asking for suggestions of a £4000 alternative to one you’ve seen but can’t afford or a particular style eg a regulator, but not just a list of £4000 watches

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    Just type automatic watch into search on eBay - then apply filter to narrow price band to £3900-£4100. Works well to give ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    I can’t relate to this way of buying a new watch at all.

    I’d enjoy the watch I have until I see another watch that would either compliment or replace my existing watch. Then I would buy it.
    I can see the merit in asking for suggestions of a £4000 alternative to one you’ve seen but can’t afford or a particular style eg a regulator, but not just a list of £4000 watches
    Absolutely
    Totally ridiculous way to approach things
    I can never understand these threads- I have x number of $. What should I buy?

    I also wonder about people who offer suggestions in response.

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    The Speedmaster was my 1st decent watch, what I bought next was a grand taille reverso. I still have both and I like them very much, thus, I would propose the same for your friend. No idea where is the reverso nowadays price-wise but I bet if not new, at least 2nd hand would be within the proposed maximum (I bought mine for 3950 GBP, for Xmas 2017, from Berrys during sales).

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    Absolutely
    Totally ridiculous way to approach things
    I can never understand these threads- I have x number of $. What should I buy?

    I also wonder about people who offer suggestions in response.
    That's your mistake. No one is asking what you should buy, but what you could buy.

    Otherwise you never know what's out there (unless your conceited enough to think you know every watch in the world).

    Add used market in and it's even more complex.

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    What about some iwc...

    Iwc Portuguese used can be had for around this budget or a new pilots petit prince.

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    What about a used Glashutte

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    What about titanium panerai with sandwich dial? Early tobacco dial 562/564 have sandwich dial,otherwise older 176/177,though the black dial might be a bit too repetitive for the collection

    At one point I had brown speedy and pam 177 combo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBin5 View Post
    Buy a used Longines for a few hundred and blow the rest on women and booze


    Very nice!

    You're not flogging that are you!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by valleywatch View Post
    Very nice!

    You're not flogging that are you!?
    Wasn’t going to but I do need to sell something I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete-r View Post
    That's your mistake. No one is asking what you should buy, but what you could buy.

    Otherwise you never know what's out there (unless your conceited enough to think you know every watch in the world).

    Add used market in and it's even more complex.
    I think you are missing our point. You would get far more information about what is generally available for £4K from one trip to Selfridges or Watches of Switzerland than all the suggestions you’ll get for a ‘blank canvas’ list of requirements thread like this.

    What forum threads similar to this are good for is when you have an idea of the kind of watch you like but want for example a cheaper alternative to something you’ve seen but can’t afford...example ‘my mate’s been looking for something to compliment his moonwatch and on a trip to London he saw a JLC Moon Ultra Thin he really like but his budget is nearer £4K, any suggestions?’ Then someone will say...yep Montblanc make one, and then someone else will pipe up ‘Fredrique Constant make that kind of thing with a hint of Patek style font’ and that’s how you find out what’s out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisparker View Post
    White dial Rolex Oyster Perpetual 39.
    What Chris said!


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    Quote Originally Posted by pete-r View Post
    Looking for suggestions. My mate is looking for a new piece to go with his moonwatch.

    Blank sheet so new, used, strap, bracelet, sports, dress etc, but £4kish budget

    Any thought?
    Yes, get your mate to look at some jewellers shop windows to narrow down the list,
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbn13 View Post
    With a budget of £4K I would get a BB58 and keep the change.
    This!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    I think you are missing our point. You would get far more information about what is generally available for £4K from one trip to Selfridges or Watches of Switzerland than all the suggestions you’ll get for a ‘blank canvas’ list of requirements thread like this.

    What forum threads similar to this are good for is when you have an idea of the kind of watch you like but want for example a cheaper alternative to something you’ve seen but can’t afford...example ‘my mate’s been looking for something to compliment his moonwatch and on a trip to London he saw a JLC Moon Ultra Thin he really like but his budget is nearer £4K, any suggestions?’ Then someone will say...yep Montblanc make one, and then someone else will pipe up ‘Fredrique Constant make that kind of thing with a hint of Patek style font’ and that’s how you find out what’s out there
    Your opinion is your opinion, but people are allowed to ask the room for advice. How much is upto them.

    My first proper watch was a brietling wings. If I knew more I'd have definitely bought something else but I didn't know what else was around, and still don't.

    WOS and Selfridges don't stock anywhere near the range of brands out there so to say stick to them is pretty poor advice.

    My advice to you is skip these threads so they don't wind you up.

    Let's not argue though, lots of great pieces to start with have been suggested to the thread has done its job well.
    Last edited by pete-r; 11th October 2019 at 11:58.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joppers View Post
    What Chris said!

    Got to say - that's lovely :)

    Is that the 36 or 39?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete-r View Post

    Let's not argue though, lots of great pieces to start with have been suggested to the thread has done its job well.
    Yep, most of which you would’ve seen in a trip to a Watches of Switzerland or Selfridges.

    But I agree that looking in a couple of decent shops to see which kind of style or brand of watch you may like is poor advice if what you really want to know is which £4K watch will impress the most people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete-r View Post
    Got to say - that's lovely :)

    Is that the 36 or 39?
    Op 39 white dial is a no brainier in that price range

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    I can’t relate to this way of buying a new watch at all.

    I’d enjoy the watch I have until I see another watch that would either compliment or replace my existing watch. Then I would buy it.
    I can see the merit in asking for suggestions of a £4000 alternative to one you’ve seen but can’t afford or a particular style eg a regulator, but not just a list of £4000 watches
    We need a few 'Stickies' - What to buy for £xxxx?

    Recent threads for £300, £1000, £1500 and £4000. Need to fill in the gaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete-r View Post
    Got to say - that's lovely :)

    Is that the 36 or 39?
    It’s the 39mm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    Yep, most of which you would’ve seen in a trip to a Watches of Switzerland or Selfridges.

    But I agree that looking in a couple of decent shops to see which kind of style or brand of watch you may like is poor advice if what you really want to know is which £4K watch will impress the most people.
    Surely you have better things to do than troll a thread you don't want to read.

    It's not about impressing people, if you want that then do your trick of walking in to the nearest WOS and buying the first piece in the window because people will love those known brands.

    It's about knowing what's out there beyond the high street, and asking people for advice on what's out there, nor telling you what to buy. If you don't get it then fair enough mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joppers View Post
    It’s the 39mm!
    Really nice.

    It's a watch you can go through life with. Looks good at 20 and 90.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete-r View Post
    Surely you have better things to do than troll a thread you don't want to read.

    It's not about impressing people, if you want that then do your trick of walking in to the nearest WOS and buying the first piece in the window because people will love those known brands.

    It's about knowing what's out there beyond the high street, and asking people for advice on what's out there, nor telling you what to buy. If you don't get it then fair enough mate.
    I’m not trolling, I’m simply saying that I discover which watch I might want to buy by looking in shops, two shops in your area that have a lot of choice is WOS and Selfridges, nobody has suggested they sell all the watches/brands you can buy or would want, they don’t even sell the whole range of the brands they carry.
    I’m saying at this very early stage of you not knowing even what style of watch (sports or dress) you have a look round a decent shop get an idea of what you might like, then have a look on the brand’s website to see what variations of those watches are available but aren’t on sale at that particular shop.
    Virtually all the suggestions so far are the usual suspects...a Rolex OP 39 and a Seamaster would be exactly what I would’ve suggested if I hadn’t set out to actually give you some buying advice first.
    Last edited by Rob; 11th October 2019 at 19:30.

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    With a 4k budget to go with a speedmaster for me it has to be a planet ocean, newer model 8900 movement to cover the sports/dive watch, Or dressier watch something from panerai? Or even IWC for a fliger.. suppose it all depends on taste and what they want to use it for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by verv View Post
    39mm oyster perpetual £4350
    Good choice


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