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    The £ seems to be strengthening against the Euro

    1.13 today

    or is it the Euro that is getting weaker - with the ECB printing loads of Euros (again)

    wonder where it will be in a months time and beyond - hold onto Euros or cash in now?

    Any FX experts on the Forum?

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    Predicting future FX moves is like predicting the weather! Even the so called ‘fx strategists’ in my industry get it quite wrong!

    The GBP strengthening could be due to unwinding of short positions & the likelihood of an extension to the brexit date.

    For future who knows, if it’s a truly hard brexit I expect gbp to weaken initially but over time (a long time!) BoE could hike rates due to inflation spiking and hence strengthening GBP, there are just far too many factors!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaurav_tzuk View Post
    Predicting future FX moves is like predicting the weather! Even the so called ‘fx strategists’ in my industry get it quite wrong!

    The GBP strengthening could be due to unwinding of short positions & the likelihood of an extension to the brexit date.

    For future who knows, if it’s a truly hard brexit I expect gbp to weaken initially but over time (a long time!) BoE could hike rates due to inflation spiking and hence strengthening GBP, there are just far too many factors!!
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaurav_tzuk View Post
    Predicting future FX moves is like predicting the weather! Even the so called ‘fx strategists’ in my industry get it quite wrong!

    The GBP strengthening could be due to unwinding of short positions & the likelihood of an extension to the brexit date.

    For future who knows, if it’s a truly hard brexit I expect gbp to weaken initially but over time (a long time!) BoE could hike rates due to inflation spiking and hence strengthening GBP, there are just far too many factors!!
    I suspect the weather is probably significantly more deterministic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillN View Post
    1.13 today

    or is it the Euro that is getting weaker - with the ECB printing loads of Euros (again)

    wonder where it will be in a months time and beyond - hold onto Euros or cash in now?

    Any FX experts on the Forum?
    Not an expert, but from the Grauniad:

    "ECB has put Europe on a collision course with Donald Trump

    Plan to cut interest rates and continue QE is an exchange-rate policy in all but name

    Draghi, of course, insists that the ECB does not “target” the exchange rate. While that may be true, it is beside the point. By purchasing long-term securities, eurozone central banks will once again trigger a currency devaluation."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCasper View Post
    Not an expert, but from the Grauniad:

    "ECB has put Europe on a collision course with Donald Trump

    Plan to cut interest rates and continue QE is an exchange-rate policy in all but name

    Draghi, of course, insists that the ECB does not “target” the exchange rate. While that may be true, it is beside the point. By purchasing long-term securities, eurozone central banks will once again trigger a currency devaluation."
    I've watched this a lot over recent years - the ECB limited buying to 50% of Government Bonds under Draghi - it will be interesting if Lagarde increases this, I think that she will because of the state of the Euro economies - my own personal view for the past few years has been that the Euro is in for a "fall"

    I'm getting out of Euros at the present time.

    ........ the next few months may be interesting
    Last edited by BillN; 18th September 2019 at 15:29.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillN View Post

    ........ the next few months may be interesting
    You could be right. I know very little about this, but:

    EU = QE (causing asset (Rolex/AP/PP) inflation rather than an economic boost?) negative interest rates (consumers waiting for deflation rather than spending?), high unemployment in the south
    USA = Trade war, low Capex, manufacturing and industrials in recession
    Saudi Arabia = disruption of oil supplies
    U.K. = Brexit

    Where are the sure fire investments? Timex Qs?






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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCasper View Post
    You could be right. I know very little about this, but:

    EU = QE (causing asset (Rolex/AP/PP) inflation rather than an economic boost?) negative interest rates (consumers waiting for deflation rather than spending?), high unemployment in the south
    USA = Trade war, low Capex, manufacturing and industrials in recession
    Saudi Arabia = disruption of oil supplies
    U.K. = Brexit

    Where are the sure fire investments? Timex Qs?

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    negative interest rates are another measure being used by the ECB, presumably in an effort to "encourage" commercial banks to lend money - they must think that is a good thing, after all they are the experts

    seems familiar - lend money - bad debts - deplete your reserves, need to recapitalise - I suppose the ECB would say, lend money, get people spending it and get the economy moving and then everyone is happy.

    I wonder if they are still buying Greek Government Bonds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillN View Post
    I've watched this a lot over recent years - the ECB limited buying to 50% of Government Bonds under Draghi - it will be interesting if Lagarde increases this, I think that she will because of the state of the Euro economies - my own personal view for the past few years has been that the Euro is in for a "fall"

    I'm getting out of Euros at the present time.

    ........ the next few months may be interesting
    Lagarde is there to push governments to do fiscal easing as I think we’ve reached the limits of what monetary policy can achieve. She’s politically very well connected so I guess she has the ability to persuade finance ministers.

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    EU printing presses rolling again and fear that a no deal Brexit is a slightly lower risk.

    Nowhere near the €1.40 it was back in 2015-ish

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaurav_tzuk View Post
    Lagarde is there to push governments to do fiscal easing as I think we’ve reached the limits of what monetary policy can achieve. She’s politically very well connected so I guess she has the ability to persuade finance ministers.
    "fiscal easing" - is that "If you want a Daytona, just put it on your mortgage Sir, we can let you have another £100k at 4%"

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    I follow the Europe Recession thread on Pistonheads. A lot of financially astute people are watching the growing storm that they reckon overshadows the GFC of 2008...

    Apparently the US Fed had to pump $50 billion of liquidity into the market yesterday as the USD repurchase rate increased 400% overnight.

    Storm's a comin'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 33JS View Post
    I follow the Europe Recession thread on Pistonheads. A lot of financially astute people are watching the growing storm that they reckon overshadows the GFC of 2008...

    Apparently the US Fed had to pump $50 billion of liquidity into the market yesterday as the USD repurchase rate increased 400% overnight.

    Storm's a comin'...
    In the end you can't beat "the market" whoever you are

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    This doesn’t belong in Watch Talk; further, it looks like a poorly disguised attempt to praise Brexit. Anyone who really thinks sterling will be stronger than the Euro is welcome to spend their own money....good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    This doesn’t belong in Watch Talk; further, it looks like a poorly disguised attempt to praise Brexit. Anyone who really thinks sterling will be stronger than the Euro is welcome to spend their own money....good luck.
    you are correct, it does not belong in Watch Talk, my mistake

    maybe it could be moved, are there any Mods on here or do I just ask Eddie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillN View Post
    you are correct, it does not belong in Watch Talk, my mistake

    maybe it could be moved, are there any Mods on here or do I just ask Eddie?
    This is hardly a hanging offence, just a sweet little opportunity for the regular moaners to moan. You have had your wrist slapped and very few of us are up in arms over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillN View Post
    are there any Mods on here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    This doesn’t belong in Watch Talk; further, it looks like a poorly disguised attempt to praise Brexit. Anyone who really thinks sterling will be stronger than the Euro is welcome to spend their own money....good luck.
    Whereas your reply looks like the reverse. Yah, boo, sucks belong elsewhere!

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    I’ve been aware for some months that my time on TZ was coming to a natural end. So ‘i’l say my goodbyes. It’s been enjoyable, but I’m off and won’t be back. That’s a promise.
    Have fun.....hope the Rolex thing slowly sorts itself out.
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    Bye then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monogroover View Post
    Bye then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    I’ve been aware for some months that my time on TZ was coming to a natural end. So ‘i’l say my goodbyes. It’s been enjoyable, but I’m off and won’t be back. That’s a promise.
    Have fun.....hope the Rolex thing slowly sorts itself out.
    Sorry to see you go Peter. All the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davida View Post
    Sorry to see you go Peter. All the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davida View Post
    Sorry to see you go Peter. All the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji053 View Post
    +1.
    He can always come back under a new user name, like you did, Ally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    +1

    (didn't think it would ever happen that I '+1' monogroover).
    I'm disappointed, as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monogroover View Post
    I'm disappointed, as well.
    What are doing about it? Shall one of us change their mind?
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    Think it over?
    You’ve made so many positive contributions compared to many on here it would seem a shame...
    But I know the feeling

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    Sorry to see a long time member go. People forget that the forum is poorer when we lose experienced members. Hope you come back.

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    Back to business now toys have been thrown....

    My opinion....

    1. GBP to CHF - remain similar
    2. Eur to everything will tank big time
    3. A.Lange & Sonhe /Glashutte watches may soon be a real bargain.


    More questionable?
    4. Will be interesting to see how continental VAT/Duty on watches - both new and used will be treated from the EZ
    5. Possible rate savings there for GBP buyers? (not Germany but equal or greater in most EU Countries)

    Worth talking through?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    I’ve been aware for some months that my time on TZ was coming to a natural end. So ‘i’l say my goodbyes. It’s been enjoyable, but I’m off and won’t be back. That’s a promise.
    Have fun.....hope the Rolex thing slowly sorts itself out.
    Unless it’s to use SC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guycord View Post
    Back to business now toys have been thrown....

    My opinion....

    1. GBP to CHF - remain similar
    2. Eur to everything will tank big time
    3. A.Lange & Sonhe /Glashutte watches may soon be a real bargain.


    More questionable?
    4. Will be interesting to see how continental VAT/Duty on watches - both new and used will be treated from the EZ
    5. Possible rate savings there for GBP buyers? (not Germany but equal or greater in most EU Countries)

    Worth talking through?
    Just wait for the Euro to tank, then get some bargains.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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