Reply With QuoteThat's a great photo, and a wonderful gesture.
Thank you for posting it.
"A Czech Aero L-159 with a Spitfire paint scheme, paying tribute to the Czech pilots of the RAF who fought in the Battle of Britain"
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That's a great photo, and a wonderful gesture.
Thank you for posting it.
That's well done, and a cracking photo.
Dave E
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That’s amazing, lots of effort went it achieving that.
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A really nice idea although Spitfires in the Battle of Britain would have had dark earth and green topsides.
Cheers,
Neil.
Very generous, given how the UK threw Eastern Europe under the bus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_betrayal
Why do people like you always make it seem like the UK is always at fault throughout history? Perhaps we should have let Mr Hitler and the Germans conquer Europe and Britain, you'd probably be happy then.Originally Posted by Holsterman
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It's a matter of historical fact that we threw Eastern Europe under the bus. You may not like that, but the fact is that we did. You can, of course, present a rational argument for why you think this is false. Or not.
No, it's an opinion.
As far as I'm concerned Messrs Bretherton and Vogler can can put their assertions where the monkey put the nut. Find someone else for a 'rational argument'.
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Well I think it's great tribute."A Czech Aero L-159 with a Spitfire paint scheme, paying tribute to the Czech pilots of the RAF who fought in the Battle of Britain"
Several double-takes later I worked out what this really was! Link to the ops room
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Who are "people like me"? Informed and educated people? The UK does not have a stellar track record with respect to, erm, "foreigners".
Godwin's law strikes early.
No need to fall out amongst each other about events from 80 years ago.
I am realistic about Britain’s past history, and that acceptable foreign and domestic policy then would be unacceptable to us now.
That said, I wonder what else the UK could have done to oppose Russia in particular; join forces with the US in 1945 in a war to push Russia out of Eastern Europe?
I like the plane by the way.
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Bloody Eastern Europeans coming over here taking jobs from our fighter pilot boys...
Thank goodness we won't be having any more of that sort of thing in the future...
It was a shame that so many Eastern Europeans were returned to their homelands, now under Stalinist rule, but there wasn't really any option to allowing the Soviets control of the area they captured, was there? Short of Nuclear Anhiliation, I mean...
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It is indeed a great tribute. Its a shame that some have chosen to sneer at their heroics.
Ah yes. The power of the tinternet and the rise of the keyboard kommando.
Indeed, and they are especially brave when hiding behind a false identity.
No, just people who are always looking to find fault with the UK. 'Informed and educated' doesn't necessarily involve understanding.
I think our 'track record' is pretty good actually. No doubt you know of others whose 'track record' is better.
As for 'Godwin's law' I made no comparison, simply asked if you would be happier with a different outcome........
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Europe was carved up by Roosevelt, Stalin & Churchill at the Yalta conference was it not?
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I used to believe that the UK's role in WW2 was well thought of in continental Europe, but was disabused of this notion by some friends from Poland and the Czech Republic several years ago. So I did some research and discovered, to my chagrin, that I was completely wrong. It can happen.
I can't see where I am "sneering" at "heroics". And as for using a pseudonym, I reckon the vast majority of internet forum users do that - and there are perfectly legitimate reasons to do so.
That this specific criticism is raised by one person called "estoban 7", and endorsed by another called "oldoakknives" is rather ironic.
Indeed it was. I just wonder what the alternative would have been, given Stalin and Roosevelt’s dispositions.
I think perhaps the reference was to people who have had more than one identity. I thought it amusing anyway.
And like I said, perhaps they would rather have lived under National Socialism than have had the results they did. Perhaps those being persecuted for their religion at the time might see things differently to your 'friends'.
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If you mean the Holocaust, we didn't do very much to prevent that, either.
I knew it. Knew you were there somewhere.
Hindsight is such a wonderful thing.
"A Czech Aero L-159 with a Spitfire paint scheme, paying tribute to the Czech pilots of the RAF who fought in the Battle of Britain"
Several double-takes later I worked out what this really was! Link to the ops room
Love this, very clever notion and a nice gesture - which after-all commemorates the Free Czechoslovak Air Force during WW2.
Shame the 20/20 hindsight historical-revisionists have threadcrapped things somewhat...
A question for the revisionists, how exactly was the UK supposed to intervene in Poland and Czech considering the state of its economy and armed forces prior to and immediately after the war ?
You know what I meant, Josh.
He doesn't take a hint very well, does he?
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I know a watch forum is bound to attract some oddballs, we are all a bit obsessional after all, but I wasn't prepared for being blamed for the Holocaust, called "Josh", and asked for photos of my skirting boards. It's been an interesting time.
Of course you weren't. You just came here to post some baiting comments after all.
Don't remember anyone blaming you for the holocaust. Perhaps you can show where that happened. You did however blame the UK for not doing enough to prevent it. Which I find offensive.
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Snowflake.
You said you knew I was there somewhere - which I took to mean that I had something to do with the Holocaust. I now assume it's an arcane forum reference.
Posting 14,130 posts in a little over seven years strikes me as borderline pathological.
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First time being called that. Find it pretty amusing.
I knew that the type of person you have revealed was 'there somewhere'.
I like talking on the forum. Big deal. Attack the speaker not the argument eh? Probably not as pathological as your efforts to revise history to suit your anti UK views.
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What type of person am I?
Like it or not, the UK is not a paragon of virtue. History has shown this, time and time and time again.
I'm not a huge fan of John Lennon as a human, but he got things right once, with "Imagine".
The type who sees revisionist attitudes to the past as a means to denigrate the UK.
It's not a paragon of virtue, but you would do well to study the actions of some other countries before judging the UK.
Anyway, I'm out it's too political for the G & D.
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Oh... that sort of person? Hmmmm. How do you manage to cope with a person who dares to disagree with you? It must be a dreadful ordeal.
I'm only Joshing with you.
Me too. No countries, no borders, no religion. Heaven, if such a place exists.
P.S. I think you're the type of person who hasn't seen this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wupToqz1e2g
p.s. I'm the type of person who doesn't care about that.
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