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    Review of Rolex Submariner 16610

    How could you possibly write a “review” of the most iconic watch in the world, the Rolex Submariner? There must be hundreds, if not THOUSANDS of reviews of this watch already. Wouldn’t it be like beating a dead horse?

    Probably. But let’s write one anyway.

    LINK TO THE REVIEW



    It's just a quick, simple writeup with some of my photography. Enjoy... and let me know if you find any mistakes.

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    Another excellent review. Thank you for posting it.

    What do you plan to add next to your collection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird84 View Post
    Another excellent review. Thank you for posting it.

    What do you plan to add next to your collection?
    Thanks man.

    I have no Rolex purchases in mind at the moment. I think I'm done. But isn't that what we always say haha.

    I actually ordered a Davosa GMT homage just for the kicks. The case looks a lot like 1675/16750 and I can't stomach the current prices of the real things. I want to "test" the looks with the Davosa first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPE View Post
    Thanks man.

    I have no Rolex purchases in mind at the moment. I think I'm done. But isn't that what we always say haha.

    I actually ordered a Davosa GMT homage just for the kicks. The case looks a lot like 1675/16750 and I can't stomach the current prices of the real things. I want to "test" the looks with the Davosa first.
    Haha! I think we all try and convince ourselves that.

    I know what you mean. I’ll keep an eye out for future posts on your website.

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    Thoroughly enjoyed that and the linked 16600 Seadweller review as I own both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ben4watches View Post
    Thoroughly enjoyed that and the linked 16600 Seadweller review as I own both.
    Cheers!!!

    Thanks a lot man. Appreciated.

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    Thanks for posting, plus the other links - really good of you to take the time, always something new to learn - the 16610 is a great watch

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    Nice review , then again Im a sub fan so already convinced
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    Great review, and reminds me why I want one rather than a SubC.
    Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything.

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    Interesting read. Thanks! Have you thought about doing one on the 16710?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsmith1974 View Post
    Interesting read. Thanks! Have you thought about doing one on the 16710?
    Oh I've already done a review of the 16710. Check here:

    Review of Rolex GMT Master II

    PS: Thanks all for the positive comments. Appreciated.

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    Great work as usual, maybe other watch owners local to you could lend you their watch for the day so you have access to more watches = more reviews.

    This wrist shot I really like, I have a 14060 and sometimes while driving I'll look at it and think that just looks perfect, great watches..



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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    Great work as usual, maybe other watch owners local to you could lend you their watch for the day so you have access to more watches = more reviews.
    That'd be great.

    But actually I have plenty of my own ex-watches that I have photographed back in the day (like 16613 Sub, Breguet XX Chrono, Seamaster Chrono "Bond", TAG Heuer Link Calibre 36, Aquagraph, etc.) that I could review but I haven't done it yet (because of my work and family takes so much time). I'm not completely happy with some of my old photos though.

    Thanks for the comments, everyone.

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    Your pic with the caption 5512-14060M shows the uncertified 5513, not the four-line 5512.

    Otherwise, VG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holsterman View Post
    Your pic with the caption 5512-14060M shows the uncertified 5513, not the four-line 5512.

    Otherwise, VG.
    Thanks.

    Yes I know. That was the only similar photo (with others) from the book and I used it. The text "refs 5512-14060M above the pic" clarify it and that photo just represents the "era". The 1680 white version isn't from the very beginning of the date Sub production, either. I believe the red Sub was the first one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPE View Post
    Thanks.

    Yes I know. That was the only similar photo (with others) from the book and I used it. The text "refs 5512-14060M above the pic" clarify it and that photo just represents the "era". The 1680 white version isn't from the very beginning of the date Sub production, either. I believe the red Sub was the first one?
    I think so. The Sub's my favourite Rolex, too.


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    Oh man, that's just amazing. Too bad these are out of my budget. Beautiful!

    Do you have other Rolexes in your collection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPE View Post
    Oh man, that's just amazing. Too bad these are out of my budget. Beautiful!

    Do you have other Rolexes in your collection?
    Thank you very much, it's a lovely piece but it hardly gets worn because of the non-quickset date. I've an OP 39 blue dial and a DayDate 36mm. Also these:



    P-serial 16610 owned from new. My gateway drug to watches.



    Mark I Maxi dial 5513 (1978)

    Oddly, both of these have the flat S. Like a reversed Z.

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    That 5513... wow!!! I love that watch and I want that watch. :o

    My previous K-serial was a "Flat S" too... and I had that SWISS ' MADE spacing as well. Similar dial as yours. I sold that (it was a full set) to a friend and bought this new K-serial which DOES NOT have the "Flat S". I wonder why such variation? Maybe Rolex use several different machines to print the dials... hmm.

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    You are too kind. I'm lucky in that I got both my vintage subs a good few years ago. I thought the prices were pretty nuts back then, but I wouldn't be able to justify buying them at today's prices.

    I believe Rolex used to use various different dial suppliers. Don't know when they stopped doing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holsterman View Post
    You are too kind. I'm lucky in that I got both my vintage subs a good few years ago. I thought the prices were pretty nuts back then, but I wouldn't be able to justify buying them at today's prices.

    I believe Rolex used to use various different dial suppliers. Don't know when they stopped doing that.
    Case on your 5513 looks in great nick
    Treat yourself to a mk3 insert for the 1680-its such a nice dial it deserves it.

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    I'm curious how the 5513 wears compared to the 16610.

    I had 14060 and for some strange reason it felt smaller than the cyclops version. Of course the diameter is the same but it felt "flatter" somehow. Does the domed crystal on 5513 "increase" the wrist presence?

    I've never tried one on. One of my collagues owns a 1680 white which I've tried... but 5513 is my dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPE View Post
    I'm curious how the 5513 wears compared to the 16610.

    I had 14060 and for some strange reason it felt smaller than the cyclops version. Of course the diameter is the same but it felt "flatter" somehow.
    The 14060 is a touch smaller than the 16610, both width and depth-wise (fractions of a mil)... I’m not sure if that difference occurred with the plastic Submariners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPE View Post
    I'm curious how the 5513 wears compared to the 16610.

    I had 14060 and for some strange reason it felt smaller than the cyclops version. Of course the diameter is the same but it felt "flatter" somehow. Does the domed crystal on 5513 "increase" the wrist presence?

    I've never tried one on. One of my collagues owns a 1680 white which I've tried... but 5513 is my dream.
    Something I've never considered. If I have the time, I'll attempt comparable wrist shots tomorrow. Here's a rather shaky Friday thread wrist shot I took a while ago (6.75" wrist). It's my "coolest" sub IMO.

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    Thanks.

    Interestingly enough my 16600 also feels smaller and "narrower" than my Sub.

    It's thicker and higher and the dial is actually 1mm smaller than on the Sub (because of thicker crystal). The lack of cyclops increases the effect even more.

    People say that the Dweller wears bigger but I disagree. Sub wears wider and flatter. Of course the Dweller feels _more substantial_ and heavier - but not bigger, literally. That's why I prefer the Sub on the wrist (although the SD is a real gem and a collector's item).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPE View Post
    I'm curious how the 5513 wears compared to the 16610.

    I had 14060 and for some strange reason it felt smaller than the cyclops version. Of course the diameter is the same but it felt "flatter" somehow. Does the domed crystal on 5513 "increase" the wrist presence?

    I've never tried one on. One of my collagues owns a 1680 white which I've tried... but 5513 is my dream.
    The 5513(Maxi Dial) will have a bit more presence on the dial than the 14060 due to maxi plots I would think and the super dome looks amazing as you can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    The 5513(Maxi Dial) will have a bit more presence on the dial than the 14060 due to maxi plots I would think and the super dome looks amazing as you can see.
    I didn't want to hear that. Now I want a 5513 even more. :D

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    Just to tempt you
    That’s my 1972 one

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPE View Post
    Thanks.

    Interestingly enough my 16600 also feels smaller and "narrower" than my Sub.

    It's thicker and higher and the dial is actually 1mm smaller than on the Sub (because of thicker crystal). The lack of cyclops increases the effect even more.
    Yes, I've tried on the 16600 on a few occasions over the years, and tried my hardest to love it back when it was THE one to have, but ultimately it's too thick and top-heavy for my taste, so I never actually picked one up.

    Compared with the monstrous crap Rolex have churned out since then, it's actually quite dainty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post


    Just to tempt you
    That’s my 1972 one
    Hood, that is an absolute stunner!

    Put that away...you’re tempting me...

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    Good review of a great watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPE View Post
    I'm curious how the 5513 wears compared to the 16610.
    HTH

    My very manly 6.75" wrist -



    5513 -



    16610 -



    OP 39 wears the same as a sub -



    Weedy 36mm way too small -


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    Thanks for the photos. That 5513 is just phenomenal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPE View Post
    Thanks for the photos. That 5513 is just phenomenal.
    Thanks again. I spent many months looking for a reasonably good example, patience is key.

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    Great review, not long since had my Swiss only A serial 1999 16610. Absolutely love it, feels more special than my SubC LV


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    Quote Originally Posted by JPE View Post
    How could you possibly write a “review” of the most iconic watch in the world, the Rolex Submariner? There must be hundreds, if not THOUSANDS of reviews of this watch already. Wouldn’t it be like beating a dead horse?

    Probably. But let’s write one anyway.

    LINK TO THE REVIEW



    It's just a quick, simple writeup with some of my photography. Enjoy... and let me know if you find any mistakes.
    Definitely doesn't need a review but still good fun nonetheless

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