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    What happened to -Ally-?

    It appears he hasn't posted since February!

    Not that I miss him you understand, I'm just wondering.

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    Got to say, the place has been a lot more pleasant without him around.

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    Hasn't it just! It feels the same as when Burnsey left.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yeti View Post
    Got to say, the place has been a lot more pleasant without him around.

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    He got banned did he not? But I’ve heard rumours that he’s back in another guise.

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    He's about somewhere
    Tried to lowball me on a watch a few months back.

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    He's around under a new ID, provided he continues to behave there's no reason to 'out' him.

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    In the garden trying to tan those hairy arms? Or maybe I'm getting confused with Howdy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    He's around under a new ID, provided he continues to behave there's no reason to 'out' him.
    Ally is on my ignore list so personally would like to see his most recent incarnation posted.

    Walter, as you have now clearly self appointed yourself as a moderater would you please advise me how to proceed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    He's about somewhere
    Tried to lowball me on a watch a few months back.
    How would he be able to sell it on Instagram for big money if he didn't lowball?

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    I think Ally is Benji053 these days, after a brief spell as DA56.

    I disagree with Paul here - people should have the absolute right to know who they’re dealing with.

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    Hello

    Each to their own but think you should just have one ID and if there is a technical issue then by all means use another one but be honest and upfront about who you actually are and or were.

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    Agree, could get around ‘villain’ posts by creating second identity.
    (No evidence of such a motive here I should add.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Agree, could get around ‘villain’ posts by creating second identity.
    (No evidence of such a motive here I should add.)
    Racism is villain enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobc View Post
    Ally is on my ignore list so personally would like to see his most recent incarnation posted.

    Walter, as you have now clearly self appointed yourself as a moderater would you please advise me how to proceed.
    Walter! 🤣

    No moderation required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    He's around under a new ID, provided he continues to behave there's no reason to 'out' him.
    What a nonsense.

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    For those with access, it's probably worth keeping an eye on this thread:

    https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...Dual-forum-IDs

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    I’m Spartacus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk280 View Post
    I’m Spartacus
    er....no....that's me

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    I’m Brian and so is my wife...😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.chef View Post
    Racism is villain enough

    Ah yes, the modern equivalent of calling someone a witch......;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Ah yes, the modern equivalent of calling someone a witch......;-)
    Are you saying that Ally is not racist?

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    The artist formally known as Ally isn’t here anymore. So don’t get worked up.

    Call me ‘sentimental’ but I miss VolvomanUK. He was genuinely great company at the McrGTGs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Are you saying that Ally is not racist?
    No, I'm saying it's "the modern equivalent of calling someone a witch......;-)". It's in my post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    No, I'm saying it's "the modern equivalent of calling someone a witch......;-)". It's in my post.
    The main difference being that it's easier to determine if someone is racist - just read their posts. No dunking required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    No, I'm saying it's "the modern equivalent of calling someone a witch......;-)". It's in my post.
    Hmmm.

    Most people who were accused of being a witch weren't one. Actually, I am pretty sure none of them was. So stating that calling someone a racist is the modern equivalent of calling someone a witch pretty much means that you believe that most of those accusations aren't true? Hence my question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Hmmm.

    Most people who were accused of being a witch weren't one. Actually, I am pretty sure none of them was. So stating that calling someone a racist is the modern equivalent of calling someone a witch pretty much means that you believe that most of those accusations aren't true? Hence my question.
    My point is that it's an indefensible accusation. You can't prove you're not. If you want to make something of it, I'm sure you will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    My point is that it's an indefensible accusation. You can't prove you're not. If you want to make something of it, I'm sure you will.
    Well, one could start by not posting racist content on a watch forum.

    Would go a long way, just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk280 View Post
    The artist formally known as Ally isn’t here anymore.
    |How do you know that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Well, one could start by not posting racist content on a watch forum.

    Would go a long way, just saying.
    Of course. But my point still stands.
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    Oh Ally where art thou?! Actually, very well done for staying away.

    Edit: Meh..
    Last edited by VDG; 8th September 2019 at 00:58.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Of course. But my point still stands.
    Not really, if there is no evidence is easy to refute. However if walks and quacks like a duck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Morgan View Post
    Not really, if there is no evidence is easy to refute. However if walks and quacks like a duck...
    Well some people’s definition of qualifying are different to others. And some labels are convenient to use to explain someone having a different view to ones own, and attract others to join in.
    Also the old saying ‘mud sticks’ usually applies....
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    If you continually criticise someone, you just harden attitudes, nothing changes and the problem remains.

    Just forget he existed and if he has come back as someone else and is behaving himself then it's a win-win.

    Also some of Ally's biggest critics are mild racists in their own right. I have been called a drunken ex pat dozens of time. It is a form of racism to lable thousands of retired Brits in the sun as permantly boozed up. They are, in reality, people who worked hard to get where they are and are nearly always very well behaved. It is no different from calling all the Irish thick, the French smelly or the Scots mean with with their money.

    Hypocracy reigns supreme on this issue and conducting an online pillorying of Alley is a symptom of it.

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    True.

    Some think it's prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. Others think it's a nice pork sausage.

    Totally innocent misunderstanding, happens all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    I have been called a drunken ex pat dozens of time.
    How come?


    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    The wife and I empty a bottle of wine with dinner every evening and often have a pre dinner G&T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Hmmm.

    Most people who were accused of being a witch weren't one.
    I called my first wife one once...Turns out she was one🤪🤪

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    How come?
    Yes you are the perfect racist hypocrit.

    You make a snide stereotype remark because my wife and I consume a bottle of wine during our evening meal lasting on average 90 minutes. We are never tipsy and that applies to 99% of ex pats.

    You just apply those racist overtones to someone whom you dislike and that, quite frankly, makes you a bit of a racist.

    Time you looked at your own behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    If you continually criticise someone, you just harden attitudes, nothing changes and the problem remains.

    Just forget he existed and if he has come back as someone else and is behaving himself then it's a win-win.

    Also some of Ally's biggest critics are mild racists in their own right. I have been called a drunken ex pat dozens of time. It is a form of racism to lable thousands of retired Brits in the sun as permantly boozed up. They are, in reality, people who worked hard to get where they are and are nearly always very well behaved. It is no different from calling all the Irish thick, the French smelly or the Scots mean with with their money.

    Hypocracy reigns supreme on this issue and conducting an online pillorying of Alley is a symptom of it.
    Nomination for post of the week. Well said, Sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Yes you are the perfect racist hypocrit.

    You make a snide stereotype remark because my wife and I consume a bottle of wine during our evening meal lasting on average 90 minutes. We are never tipsy and that applies to 99% of ex pats.

    You just apply those racist overtones to someone whom you dislike and that, quite frankly, makes you a bit of a racist.

    Time you looked at your own behaviour.
    If you scroll up two posts you will find that the definition of being racist involves having views on somebody based on their race.

    My views about you are however entirely based on your constant waffling and self-contradiction, so not racist.

    I will however recognise that you have realised that I don't like you, not bad for somebody who drinks alcohol every evening. May I suggest you do the drinkaware self-assessment in order to have some qualified feedback about your drinking habits?

    https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/selfassessment

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    I think there may be some confusion between racism and personality piss-taking. One is based on race, one is based on personality, or lack of …

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    If you scroll up two posts you will find that the definition of being racist involves having views on somebody based on their race.

    My views about you are however entirely based on your constant waffling and self-contradiction, so not racist.

    I will however recognise that you have realised that I don't like you, not bad for somebody who drinks alcohol every evening. May I suggest you do the drinkaware self-assessment in order to have some qualified feedback about your drinking habits?

    https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/selfassessment
    Sorry because you disagree or dislike someone does not give you the right to make racist comment on British ex pats being permanently boozed up. Disliking me is fine, that is your right, to to make a stereotype statement that I am a typical boozed up expat is insulting to hundreds of thousands of decent people.

    It is sterotyping in its worst form, and sorry it makes you a latent racist which is probably the most dangerous and insidious.

    Like I said, it is time you reviewed your own behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    I think there may be some confusion between racism and personality piss-taking. One is based on race, one is based on personality, or lack of …
    Sorry but you are also an offender. You have made several references to expats all being boozed up. I know you used it as a dig at me, but it a disgusting form of stereotype and it's high time it was cut out.

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    Might not be nice to call/stereotype someone a drunken expat but I'm really struggling to see the racism in it.

    What's the stereotype about Scottish people being tight with the money or the Irish being "thick micks" got to do with drunken expats? Are the English the only ones allowed to be drunken expats, is that why it's being considered racist?

    For what it's worth I don't think there is any subjectivity on the subject, Ally was clearly a racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch View Post
    I called my first wife one once...Turns out she was one浪浪
    Ha ha ha haha. Went out with one once, she turned me into a newt. But I got better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Might not be nice to call/stereotype someone a drunken expat but I'm really struggling to see the racism in it.

    What's the stereotype about Scottish people being tight with the money or the Irish being "thick micks" got to do with drunken expats? Are the English the only ones allowed to be drunken expats, is that why it's being considered racist?

    For what it's worth I don't think there is any subjectivity on the subject, Ally was clearly a racist.
    I don't think anyone has said he wasn't. Raffe simply assumed my comment inferred that. It wasn't intended to but was a general comment on the usage of the word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    True.

    Some think it's prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. Others think it's a nice pork sausage.

    Totally innocent misunderstanding, happens all the time.
    They are indeed, aren’t they.

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    Suppose the bureau put some junior officers in charge of the account after he lost Bear Pit access.
    ADDED 11.10.19 - My reply to the post below was deleted and I was banned for a week for losing my temper with this vile racist/russophobe and a duplicitous LIAR as could be seen from his posts below.

    Posted by Raffe on 8 September 2019 (see below in this thread)
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    I have no idea what race you belong to, my mocking of you is entirely based on your laughable defending of everything Russian.

    You are one of the most aggressive and vile racists on the forum, but continue to play the victim, it fits you well (almost trumpesque).
    Exchange between Bobbee and Raffe on 23 September 2019 in the Bear Pit.
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    He is not missing the BP, is he? :D


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    Walterposted yesterday in this thread, you mean владимир?
    Vladimir[1] (Russian: Влади́мир[1]) is a male Slavic given name of Old Slavic origin, now widespread throughout all Slavic nations (in different spellings).

    The Old Russian form of the name is Володимѣръ Volodiměr, the Old Church Slavonic one Vladiměr. According to Max Vasmer, the name is composed of Slavic владь vladĭ "power" and *mēri "great" (related to Gothic element mērs, -mir, c.f. Theodemir, Valamir). The modern (pre-1918) Russian forms Владимиръ and Владиміръ are based on the Church Slavonic one, with the replacement of мѣръ by миръ or міръ resulting from a folk etymological association with миръ "peace" or міръ "world".[2]The post-1918 reformed spelling Владимир drops the final -ъ, but the (unetymological) spelling -миръ or -міръ predates the orthographic reform, indicating the folk etymological interpretation of the name as "world owner" or "peace owner".
    The chap is obsessed with Russia and Russians (linked conspiracy theories), if anyone is in doubt just look at the Trump thread in the BP. Mind boggles. Pity the forum owner decided to leave his post with the vile insinuations to remain while mine was deleted.
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    So 'ex-pat' is a race. Who knew?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Might not be nice to call/stereotype someone a drunken expat but I'm really struggling to see the racism in it.

    What's the stereotype about Scottish people being tight with the money or the Irish being "thick micks" got to do with drunken expats? Are the English the only ones allowed to be drunken expats, is that why it's being considered racist?

    For what it's worth I don't think there is any subjectivity on the subject, Ally was clearly a racist.
    Stereo typing is a form of racism. If, say, the Irish are continuously ridiculed for being thick, the result is that mud sticks and they find it more difficult to get a decent job because they have to overcome the image of being thick. In Europe it is the Belgians who are labled thick purly as a good natured joke but it's not so nice when you are a Belgian.

    The term boozed up British expats is a direct attack on hundreds of thousands of decent retired people who work hard to get where they are and are never ever seen drunk. It is racially based and it is bloody offensive.

    It is a term used regularly in the BP and will be defended as banter but these same people then use the lable against someone else. They are being hypocritical and they know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    I’m Brian and so is my wife...
    you having a pop at me ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    you having a pop at me ?

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