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    New Land Rover Defender revealed...

    Apparently snapped on the latest Bond set



    Looks to me like a Skoda Yeti on steroids...

    Seems will be officially revealed at the Frankfurt motor show in a couple weeks.

    And another shot in a better shade...


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    No way should they call that a Defender.

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    That seems to be the way life is going nowadays. From a hard man to a mincing ponce in one step.


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    Itíll have to be an absolute success otherwise it could do JLR more damage than good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simesman View Post
    No way should they call that a Defender.
    This ^^^^ just another 'pumped up' school run SUV, JLR will sell loads as Tamara and Tristan carriers.
    Last edited by number2; 27th August 2019 at 13:02.
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    Looks better in the darker colour! I really hope itís decent....it might be a replacement for my Disco 4 in time.

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    Looks better in complete darkness.. I think Defenderina or somefink along these lines suits it much better.. Anyway, it's actually not that bad, better than expected tbh so I just might if they will have one in hybrid.
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    Being a Defender owner I'm pleased it lacks the character of the original.

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    Looks very 'soft'.

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    Mmm, will I be able to hose the inside clean, without needing 5 days to dry.

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    Prices of the 110 as we know it, will be up and up and up... On the other hand, how was the first Range Rover received by the public?

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    Looks like a pumped up Kia Soul.

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    Wondering if the SAS will chop the tops off?
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    they are on a hiding to nothing here - trying to replace a true icon, but one that had so many faults.

    the bottom half is bloated and horrible, but the windows and roof do seem to carry through a certain Defender DNA

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    Trust me - I see it most days - itís a bloody beast
    LR are heavy in the new Bind movie and Iíve been lucky enough to meet all of the stunt drivers and the Co-ordinaries who is also Danial Craigís body double

    Iíve seen the test cars etc - itís all good

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    That reminds me, must pop to the Suzuki dealer and try the Jimny.
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    I wonder how many of the moaners have ever lived with one of the old Defenders as their own car?

    I love the character of the old Deafeners, but they are far from faultless!

    Relentlessly ripping your clothes on the door catches while getting out of the car,
    Leaks appearing from everywhere,
    No room for the drivers (or passengers) shoulders to go unless the windows are down,
    No room to get your leg off the clutch on SWB 'bonnet bulge' later models,
    Drivers left thigh getting larger by the day due to the ludicrously heavy clutch,
    The air-con units (where fitted) meant the passenger had nowhere to put their legs,
    The noise inside (!!!),
    Reliability, enough said.

    Driving one of those for a long journey was about as tiring as running a double marathon.

    With all that being said, the new one has some seriously large boots to fill, so I think it will never make the old-school fans happy, of which I remain one despite the very abridged list of 'issues' above...

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    Too soft and sedate and itís not really defender looking, itís like a Land Rover branded g wagon


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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    That reminds me, must pop to the Suzuki dealer and try the Jimny.
    Test drove one when the Mitsubishi was in for a service at the Nottingham dealer, itís small and peppy and lots of character, youíll like it if you love the original because itís almost as impractical but equally as cool with a few more creature comforts


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maysie View Post
    I wonder how many of the moaners have ever lived with one of the old Defenders as their own car?
    I'm one.

    Had a 2016 TDCI 90 from new, it was like a new classic car. Quirky and fun but the faults as you listed, yep tick tick tick!

    Certainly got a few design clues going on here, but LR should've done a G-Wagen/Jimny and gone evolution rather than revolution, IMO.

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    Reckon it looks alright. I love the look of the current Defender, but let's be honest, it's not a nice car to be in and to drive for myriad reasons. Something had to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Test drove one when the Mitsubishi was in for a service at the Nottingham dealer, itís small and peppy and lots of character, youíll like it if you love the original because itís almost as impractical but equally as cool with a few more creature comforts


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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    I'm one.

    Had a 2016 TDCI 90 from new, it was like a new classic car. Quirky and fun but the faults as you listed, yep tick tick tick!

    Certainly got a few design clues going on here, but LR should've done a G-Wagen/Jimny and gone evolution rather than revolution, IMO.
    Bang on, in fact there has been concepts before, images of one are on display at gaydon, sadly never produced but itís all gone a bit cartoon character for me rather than functional design..
    Can be sure of one thing, fragile new Diesel engine from LR for sure, the td5 and m47 td4 seemed to go and go but the new ones not so much


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maysie View Post
    Reliability, enough said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    Wondering if the SAS will chop the tops off?
    They already did, itís called Supacat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamaster73 View Post
    On Her Majestyís Flatbed Recovery Truck
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    Etc...
    Very good!

    Also

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    I like it at first glance. You don't have to look hard..........
    Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything.

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    Those front wheel arches spoil it for me and look like a bit of a liability. Black plastic mouldings would have suited it better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
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    Didnít think Iíd ever see Bond drive a Nissan Cube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji053 View Post
    Didnít think Iíd ever see bond drive a Nissan Cube.
    He has driven worse....

    a 2CV, Tuk Tuk, Renault Taxi, and an AMC.
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    No time to die..

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    Jesus, that is absolutely hideous. Still, each to their own and all that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maysie View Post
    I wonder how many of the moaners have ever lived with one of the old Defenders as their own car?

    I love the character of the old Deafeners, but they are far from faultless!

    Relentlessly ripping your clothes on the door catches while getting out of the car,
    Leaks appearing from everywhere,
    No room for the drivers (or passengers) shoulders to go unless the windows are down,
    No room to get your leg off the clutch on SWB 'bonnet bulge' later models,
    Drivers left thigh getting larger by the day due to the ludicrously heavy clutch,
    The air-con units (where fitted) meant the passenger had nowhere to put their legs,
    The noise inside (!!!),
    Reliability, enough said.

    Driving one of those for a long journey was about as tiring as running a double marathon.

    With all that being said, the new one has some seriously large boots to fill, so I think it will never make the old-school fans happy, of which I remain one despite the very abridged list of 'issues' above...
    All of the above duly acknowledged. I love mine and wonít be trading ďupĒ for the hideous replacement model any time soon.

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    Very nice.

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    Iíve had 3, 1961 2A, 1974 3 and a 1987 90 County. All good. All swb, one petrol (2A) two diesel.

    I like it (them). I think theyíve captured the essence of the, what was it 1948, design and brought it up to date. Iíll never, ever in this world have another but I like it. Good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maysie View Post
    I wonder how many of the moaners have ever lived with one of the old Defenders as their own car?

    I love the character of the old Deafeners, but they are far from faultless!

    Relentlessly ripping your clothes on the door catches while getting out of the car,
    Leaks appearing from everywhere,
    No room for the drivers (or passengers) shoulders to go unless the windows are down,
    No room to get your leg off the clutch on SWB 'bonnet bulge' later models,
    Drivers left thigh getting larger by the day due to the ludicrously heavy clutch,
    The air-con units (where fitted) meant the passenger had nowhere to put their legs,
    The noise inside (!!!),
    Reliability, enough said.

    Driving one of those for a long journey was about as tiring as running a double marathon.

    With all that being said, the new one has some seriously large boots to fill, so I think it will never make the old-school fans happy, of which I remain one despite the very abridged list of 'issues' above...
    Iíve driven land rovers since 1977 and tried the first discovery released and can say hand on heart the defender as itís known now isnít brilliant at being a car but it was never meant to be. Iíve never had a problem with ripped clothes whether itís combats in some shit hole or on my jeans recently. Itís built for a purpose and with a hammer you can straighten it out. As for the new one the horse has bolted, thereís to many pickups doing the Land Rover Jobs so things will be for picking kids up from school. I looked at a second hand short wheel base the other day but Iím not shelling out £34.500 for one. Aircon thatís what the windows are for.


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    The Blinking Dashlights

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    It is (was) a farm vehicle.
    Having a sparkly paint job means itís now an SUV for the school run or parking in a festival car park safe in the knowledge you can read the manual to go into 4WD and drive on the wet grass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aa388 View Post
    I’ve driven land rovers since 1977 and tried the first discovery released and can say hand on heart the defender as it’s known now isn’t brilliant at being a car but it was never meant to be. I’ve never had a problem with ripped clothes whether it’s combats in some shit hole or on my jeans recently. It’s built for a purpose and with a hammer you can straighten it out. As for the new one the horse has bolted, there’s to many pickups doing the Land Rover Jobs so things will be for picking kids up from school. I looked at a second hand short wheel base the other day but I’m not shelling out £34.500 for one. Aircon that’s what the windows are for.


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    My backside must be wider than yours then!

    The amount of times I ripped the side out of my trousers when a belt loop (or something else) got caught on the door catch was not funny in the end. Never did it with my old stuff only when I had 'smartened up' a bit too.

    Air-con was utterly useless, mine was one of the last ones with the front vents and they were far more effective. Open windows are a given, otherwise my shoulders didn't fit.
    Last edited by Maysie; 28th August 2019 at 08:54. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgee View Post
    Looks like a pumped up Kia Soul.
    Exactly the same as my 1st thought.
    Hope they up there quality control as it's been dismal of late.

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    Do we think that price wise it's likely to be as hilarious as other Land rovers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    Do we think that price wise it's likely to be as hilarious as other Land rovers?
    Absolutely side splitting no doubt.

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    I quite like it, but doesnít look like it is a Defender though

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    I'd have to see one in the metal before making a proper judgment.

    Not my most popular of opinions, but I do wish every Diesel Land Rover Defender ever built before say 2012 (along with almost every other Diesel JLR product in fact) was wiped off the face of the earth. Every Defender I see these days is continuously kicking out a huge plume of smoke whilst making a horrendous racket. Every single one of them - young(ish) or old.

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    Think it look alright. What did people actually expect?

    I don't know many working country folk that bought one for at least 20 years, it's all Toyota/Mitsu (or a Disco) for people who need to cart stuff/people around farms/fisheries/hunts these days.

    The defender found a niche market in people who liked to pretend they're farmers while driving cars farmers abandoned ages ago.

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    Mercedes managed to re-engineer the G-Class to overcome refinement issues that dated it and keep the iconic design aesthetics, pity Land Rover couldnít do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    Do we think that price wise it's likely to be as hilarious as other Land rovers?
    Quality is seldom cheap
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Quality is seldom cheap
    With relation to LR products that is indeed amusing
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

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