I'm in Wales and if it wasn't for Waze I'd be well lost. Brilliant to use and plenty of warning of hazards. Hardly have to look at it 😉
I'm in Wales and if it wasn't for Waze I'd be well lost. Brilliant to use and plenty of warning of hazards. Hardly have to look at it 😉
It's hard to know what point you are making. Phone conversations are distracting - this is a fact. Whoever your driver was would have been distracted. He didn't crash, I assume, but it's still unsafe. Nothing is so urgent that you can't find somewhere to stop.
The things in your second para are already prohibited.
Seems quite clear to me, some people can multitask with ease others not.
You seem very pro to the possibility of a ban, has your life been impacted by someone using a phone whilst driving?
Yes, factor in the drivers ability to muli-task in any legislation.
Now I didn't suggest that did I.
My suggestion would be to not bother at all with new legislation, there are plenty already in place that aren't enforced why bother with more.
If you can't push a green button on your steering wheel have a conversation and then press a red button to end a call without having an accident you shouldn't really be driving in the first place.
Most phones will auto answer and when the other end puts down that'll end the call.
More blanket legislation where it doesn't need to be......imo.
You are mad.
I mean that in the nicest possible way.
It's just a matter of time...
Worse still, rear view mirrors standard causing a blind spot in frónt of the car!
I don´t use the phone in the car period, switch off the ´gadgets´display, find the satnav highly distracting and logic is that actually lístening to music, worse still interesting talk on the radio, is distracting per definition.
Point is that a certain level of distraction must be accepted; p.e. passengers will always distract at some moment to some extend, and if that lowers the driving capabilities too much, than that person should not be driving.
Again that smoking. I fail to see why smoking is ok whereas eating a mars bar or drinking from a squirt bottle is prohibited.
Anyone drive a tesla and will self driving change the rules.. I could never let a computer drive for me without constant fear..
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Not so. Modern traffic surveilance cameras automatically detect a wide range of such infractions (seat belt, eating/drinking p.e.) and all needed is a low pay grade button pusher to check the list produced by them; a ´confirm´ and the fine goes out.
Over here in Spain these cameras are appearing like weeds! as they are highly profitable.
Yes, I consider myself to be a competent driver. I don't think anyone that isn't should be allowed on the road. The testing parameters for the research are usually very flawed. You can't judge people who never use a phone/handsfree in a car and appear to be overly affects by that, against other drivers that use a phone all the time. They should have a true test to disruptions, such as calls during the actual driving test and if it overly affects you, then you don't pass the test - simple.
I drive and ride motorbikes, covering more miles than most. Regularly using a group intercom when riding with a group - which actually makes things a lot safer with a few riders all noticing potential hazards and advising each other accordingly.
Lots of things may be slightly distracting when driving - but they shouldn't be overly distracting, or you should stay away from the steering wheel IMHO.
It's just a matter of time...
I'm old enough to remember the days before mobile phones existed, so they certainly were not distracting then.
The proposed legislation is about minimising distractions. Not all distractions can be eliminated, but taking phone calls when driving can be. Very straightforward.
Not every phone call will result in an accident, just as not every drunk driver either crashes or is caught by the police. But the evidence shows that some calls can be distracting, and I really do not understand why anyone could possibly object to banning hands-free calls. What is so important that it can't wait until you can stop, turn off the engine, and call back?
Surely this could all be resolved with a motor racing league where drivers took random phone calls during the race and had to answer basic maths and spelling questions. Any wrong answers would result in a stop go penalty.
Reckon that would sort out hoe distracting phone calls are, plus be pretty damn entertaining to watch.
Last edited by Dean Learner; 16th August 2019 at 12:37. Reason: Typed while driving so had to correct the errors 😝
Learnt something today, thank you.
I’ve been a long term believer that modern cars are really distancing the occupants from what the car is doing and rather than taking risks they’re actually just oblivious. Cars are so easy to drive and isolating from the outside world it is way to easy to be complacent of the physics involved.
Some people seem to think hands free driving is a thing. Obviously it's not uncommon but I saw someone this morning maneuvering a corner with a fag in their right hand (forefinger and second finger) while securely (not!) holding the wheel with thumb and fingers four and five. Funny how that's not seen as a problem.
Apparently, we are not good at this form of multitasking as you think.
"An expert told the committee that taking a hands-free phone call caused "essentially the same" amount of distraction as being at the legal limit for alcohol blood level in England and Wales."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49320473
We shouldn't ban one distraction whilst other distractions exist.
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I would image the police, ambulance and fire services use a hands free facility in their vehicles...... WTF
It starts with the very basics such as power steering. Depending on the system and amount of assistance this inherently reduces the feedback of the tyre friction to the hands. The extreme of it is electric power steering.
In effect power steering disconnects the driver from the road. The feedback now primarily comes from the movement of the car.
The result is that all smells of roses till it goes wrong; the band width of warning has been all but eliminated,
The same applies to abs, traction control and awd.
This packaged in heavier cars with more powerful engines.
The complacency about the physics goes accompanied by ignorance about them. Take the tyre load sensitivity; which SUV driver is aware of the reduced grip available instead of feeling safer?!
Please read that back and thínk. Ofcourse the average, the middle, cannot be the norm for the regulations!
Driver capacities can be seen as a bell graph. The ´bump´ represenst the average group.
The minium skill leven for the regulations is on the steep side of the lower side of that bump. Or in other words, the weakest score of the largest group; the weak side of the bulk, the low boundary of the average group.