Reply With Quotestrap wouldn't bother me at all. do you have any idea how would 20 or whatever years old strap would look like?
to judge dial we would need bigger photos.
Hi all,
I am thinking about buying the below vintage JLC. I know that the strap is not original and that the dial has been refinished (new lacquer applied). The seller asks approx. EUR 4 000. What do you guys think?
strap wouldn't bother me at all. do you have any idea how would 20 or whatever years old strap would look like?
to judge dial we would need bigger photos.
The strap doesn't bother me either. Hope these photos are better:
The watch is most likely worth around a 1/4 of the asking price with a redone dial. You have a decent budget for an original watch.
Is it a JlC if it's just Jaeger on the dial? Tried to find out about standalone Jaeger but it's all clouded by JlC info!
Do you have a picture of the movement?
It looks a lot like this one with a Valjoux 72 movement.
https://www.ssongwatches.com/product...72-chronograph
Not sure I would pay so much for that watch, especially with a redial.
Edit: not the same movement at all, as you were. Shouldn’t be posting this late.
Last edited by alfat33; 6th August 2019 at 23:41.
For that money it would be advisable to wait for something better.
Ask for pictures of the movement, and when it was last serviced, and by whom.
I believe that jaeger was the American version of JLC.Originally Posted by hughtrimble
Fully cased Swiss watches used to attract very high import taxes into the states so the movements were shipped separately and cased up when arrived under the Jaeger brand to avoid the high import taxes.
I think I remember that the imported movements had to be marked unregulated, even if they were regulated, again for avoiding the higher tariffs.
I always thought LeCoultre was the US version used for a while to avoid import duties. Or is that another misapprehension on my part?
Last edited by alfat33; 7th August 2019 at 08:34.
From wiki
From 1932 to approximately 1985, due to the Smoot Hawley Tariff Act, watches were cased in locally produced cases in North America and sold under the name LeCoultre by the company Vacheron-LeCoultre, a subsidiary of Longines-Wittnauer, with slightly different case designs. After 1985, Jaeger-LeCoultre was adopted uniformly worldwide. According to factory records, the last movement to be used in an American LeCoultre watch was shipped out of Le Sentier in 1976.
I thought that initially Jaeger was a french company that cased up swiss LeCoultre movements but was never a watch manufacturer on it's own. I have quite a few Jaeger badged alarm clocks.
You may well be correct, after all I’m often wrong about such technicalities.
It may be a Universal Geneve badged as Jaeger (which in itself can be legit). However: redial is redial and 4K is a joke.
Cheers, thanks for that.
Do we think it is the same as this one? Details are different like the numeral size, but this one presumably has an original dial.
The link here says it has the Calibre 285 movement.
https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/1737337/
I found this link with some chap called @Carlton-Browne banging on about the C.285 supplied by UG. This suggests that the auction site for the above watch is wrong about the movement.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/opin...iversal.15000/
Last edited by alfat33; 7th August 2019 at 11:40.
Re LeCoultre - not so fun fact: James Dean was wearing a LeCoultre Powermatic Nautilus wristwatch when he died.
Thanks, and here it apparently is:
I wonder if the OP will be back once he has decided on his Pie Pan or Jaeger.
Meanwhile this has turned into an interesting thread, for me at least.
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