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    ‘Non traditional’ sweeping second hands

    As well as Bulova’s Precisionist and Seiko’s Spring Drive, who else makes a ‘non traditional’ sweeping second hand?


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    Do Habring count?


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    Last edited by Dapper; 24th July 2019 at 19:03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lughugger View Post
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    Do they do one other than a usual smooth ticker?

    They have the dead seconds (the definition of a not sweeping seconds!) and the foudroyante sub-dials, but that's not the same complication as a sweeping seconds.

    I ask as I'm extremely keen on their wares and the complications they do at a very impressive (low) price.

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    Omega f300 and other electronic watches.

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    The precisionist movement is still driven the same way just more frequently.. i think from memory it is a 16 steps per second movement so appears continuous unless slow motion is used


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    The Electric watches had a slightly odd tick.

    LIP R148
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fIs0r8iJKg

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    The Electric watches had a slightly odd tick.

    LIP R148
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fIs0r8iJKg
    That looks quite interesting :-)

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    Mechanicals that tick full seconds are unusual and expensive.

    Jaeger-LeCoultre Geophysic True Second
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1KI4LZAkBfc

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    Mechanicals that tick full seconds are unusual and expensive.

    Jaeger-LeCoultre Geophysic True Second
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1KI4LZAkBfc
    Habring² make a dead beat seconds that retails at 5k, which seems cheap in the context of JLC to me.

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    Didn't some Sinn models have a funny 'bounce' in the second hand due to the use of oil filled cases? Something to do with the resistance as it moved if I remember correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuisance Value View Post
    Didn't some Sinn have a funny 'bounce' in the second hand due to the use of oil filled cases? Something to do with the resistance as it moved if I remember correctly.
    There were reports of the UX having a strange bounce but as you say it was more to do with the medium the hand is moving through than the movement. The hand ticks and then moves back slightly in rebound.

    I have JSAR that has the worst bounce I have ever seen, the second hand is so long that the tip flicks back and forth every tick. It actually makes the watch interesting to watch. Thankfully the hand hits all the markers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinnlover View Post
    There were reports of the UX having a strange bounce but as you say it was more to do with the medium the hand is moving through than the movement. The hand ticks and then moves back slightly in rebound.
    Ah, fair point, it's not a movement idiosyncrasy. I knew I'd heard of something like this. Thanks.

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    ISA9500-1010 movement

    Is the the Smiths Seafire the only available watch to use the ISA9500-1010 movement?

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    Definitely non traditional


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    Is the the Smiths Seafire the only available watch to use the ISA9500-1010 movement?
    There was a Maratac Pilot... I am not sure if it is still available.

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    ISA9500-1010 movement

    Thanks, I’ve just googled the Maratac Pilot. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem available anymore.

    Surely there must be other watches to use this movement? It’s can’t have been developed for the Smiths Seafire alone, can it?

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    If I am not wrong, I think the Maratac came first.

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    Take that!


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    Apparently the Casio MTP-SW320D-1AV has a smooth running seconds.

    https://www.casio-intl.com/asia/en/w...TP-SW320D-1AV/

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=og1GRKZX_N0&t=46s

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    Apparently the Casio MTP-SW320D-1AV has a smooth running seconds.

    https://www.casio-intl.com/asia/en/w...TP-SW320D-1AV/

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=og1GRKZX_N0&t=46s
    Looks like a standard mechanical seconds hand sweep, but pretty cool for a battery.

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    More quartz with sweeping second hand

    I’ve found a couple more. Both are quartz watches with a sweeping second hand, possibly using the same movement as the Smiths Seafire.

    MWC GGW-113US quartz field watch with 36mm diameter (excl. crown) and sweeping second hand.


    Merci Instruments LMM-01 Project Special Field Watch with 38mm diameter and sweeping second hand.


    There’s a Hodinkee article about the Merci field watch. Though I prefer the slightly larger size of the Smiths Seafire, as well as the Seafire’s design.

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    Beta 21 quartz watches have a non ticking seconds hand as well.

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    A very non-traditional seconds 'hand', and pretty unusual watch in general.

    https://youtu.be/W6-NKRjYE6Y

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    The Seiko 5s21 had a quartz sweep hand . A short clip of the Seiko 5s21-7a10 below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCcsFitY-KE


    Last edited by Tazmo61; 3rd September 2019 at 20:53.

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    https://www.watchfinder.co.uk/articl...x-seconds-myst

    has to be the most non traditional?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak_35 View Post
    https://www.watchfinder.co.uk/articl...x-seconds-myst

    has to be the most non traditional?
    Wow!!!

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    That is really cool, very nearly justifying the total distraction from actually reading the time on a timepiece.

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