This may be true of some, possibly an increasing number, but some others looked at their collections & identified the DJ as filling a requirement, choosing it on that basis.Originally Posted by robert75
I have a 300m chronometer diver so I don't need a Sub (which in any case doesn't look good on me). I have an iconic chronograph, so I don't need a Daytona (which I don't like the look of).
What I needed was a piece that would mark a significant birthday, was stainless steel & was capable of being a daily wearer with either smart or casual clothes.
Looked at IWC & Omega as well as Rolex but the DJ was the one that I liked best overall.
Was in WOS Glasgow yesterday asking about the blue dial fluted bezel. They had one on an oyster bracelet that was waiting to be picked up that they let me have a look at. Stunning watch, guy said they get 2 or 3 a year on oyster and the same on jubilee.
6 months to a year waiting time for the blue or rhodium dials.
Brilliant store. Mark in there is a really good guy.
Never mind the Datejusts, I can't even currently find a black or white OP 39mm to look at where I am. It seems as though anything 39mm+ in SS is close to unavailable.
Last edited by ColDaspin; 29th July 2019 at 08:44.
You do know who Tim Mosso is? And that Govberg is probably the largest Rolex dealer in the USA?
They just might have an idea about what’s going on.
Last edited by paskinner; 29th July 2019 at 09:50.
So was your post specific to the US, not UK, market?
Funny I only had low ball offers for an unworn OP39 a couple of months back, ended up in a dealers for £3.6k
The dj41 is lovely watch though, rodium and fluted bezel would be my choice.
Presumably the black and the white models are getting a lot more demand than the ones with colourful dials such as your 39mm Red Grape?
Its ranges rather than models that are on allocation to dealers but with exceptions. Gold and TT submariners for instance can be ord ered en masse. Ditto yachtmasters.
I enjoy sitting on the sidelines watching the whole situation. Its such an obviously inflated bubble, driven mainly by demand from mainland Chinese tourists. Anywhere you go in Europe and usa theyre there in droves, toting around LV, Chanel, cartier and Rolex paper bags...
Soon enough the association will be very detrimental to the brands... We've seen it before with Breitling and Burberry etc.
You may be right. Relentless demand from Asia is all very well, but it can backfire as a brand gets a negative image. Mind you, up until now, Rolex have been the masters of marketing.
The biggest result may be in the appearance of the watches. For the last few years they have got more shiny, bigger and a touch ‘blingy’. Again, if that’s what buyers want, that’s what they will get.
I caved and put myself on a list for a white OP 39 last week.
I still haven't seen one in the flesh but love the look of the white dial in videos. What a crazy position to be in where there is a wait list for an OP. Good luck with the search!
We can only guess but surely situation is going to continue for a few months at least, because from Rolex's point of view, things are improving significantly.
Two years ago, any chancer could walk into an AD and demand a discount which they usually got. Today there are a lot less watches and no discounts. This is how Rolex are going to restore their brand and they can increase the RRP worldwide.
They want buying a Rolex to be an experience and not just a transaction and this is how they will do it.
I agree. I'm also on their wait list for a BB58 on bracelet and they inferred that would be in well before the OP...
I agree, but you could have serviced it and a dial change for less than buying new or going grey. Not the end of the world on my part, forum missed out on a bargain though.
I will add that the OP is a nice classic watch, the DJ has that bit more about it though.
Last edited by Middo; 29th July 2019 at 14:05.
Given the obstacles you have to get over to acquire some models I can only imagine the experience Rolex are going for is something akin to a cactus enema.
LOL!
Yep. I think I could be very interested in one but I'm reluctant to put myself on a list and wait an indeterminate amount of time to find out. An SS Datejust is also a clear alternative but, again, there are literally none in the shops.
I'm not sure Rolex are doing themselves too many favours at the moment. One or two unavailable headliners (Daytona etc.) to add a little perceived exclusiveness, I understand, but a business model whereby their customers are unable to see actually see any of the models they want seems a little, how to put it, unusual.
It's almost at the stage where there are more ALSs, PPs and their ilk in the windows than Rolexes.
Last edited by ColDaspin; 29th July 2019 at 15:53.
I made it clear that I would pay a holding deposit when they got one one, but that it was acceptable to not proceed after examining in person. They seemed good with that luckily, so I thought why not ;)
This is exactly my concern. The white OP was met by a collective online swoon but there were also plenty of comments that it was a touch bland, something that the DJ41 would address. I have a pretty good idea what any DJ would be like but, for the OP, it all comes down to one's personal response to that white dial. And in the absence of any in the shops, it's a little tricky to gauge ...
Absolutely. They'll be able to sell it 10mins later anyway if you decide against, so no harm to either party.
Had the joy of Bournemouth in the rain today. Topical comment that 3 datejusts in the window this pm.
Oh, and a lovely stick dial blue faced fluted bezel at Michael Mathews for £7250. Looked awesome.
Just received my blue dial Rolex Datejust 41, jubilee bracelet and batons on the dial.
It took me a month and a half waiting, more or less.
I asked generally speaking what is going on with the lists, he told me the hottest watch right now, and probably the rarest, is the golden Daytona with green dial.. for the rest, am a cool guy (meaning good customer?) and he can do something if anything is needed.
Pictures soon..
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Congratulations enjoy it! Mine says hi!
Enjoy , congrats , not a long wait at all and a lovely watch .
Fantastic. Great news! Looking forward to the pics.
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41mm in short supply so know an AD with a list for 36mm Datejusts in steel on jubilee
Anyone purchased a 36mm or a 41mm fluted Datejust, with the blue dial lately?
I was wondering what sort of wait time they are?
A lots happened in a year... I did see some DJ of different sizes and colours pre-lockdown in WoS Regent Street - able to buy on the spot.
I got a blue datejust with almost no wait - there wasn’t one in stock but it was mid lockdown and they got one in the first consignment which hadn’t been allocated.
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Was in an AD last week and they said the DJ41 had become very popular. They did have a two tone one though! I still think the DJ41 is a good size.
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
I’ve been on a list for one for over 12 months. WoS Royal Exchange had one in their window March ( a friend called me) I rang them and asked them to hold for me to collect following day. They said no and I missed it. None since then.
Good hunting
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Back when they had the footfall, I think that phonecall would go very different today. I popped in last year to hold an OP39 White for a member here who decided against it in the end. The blonde London girl was nice enough to hold it for a day or two. If you friend went in they might have held it.
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