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    Seiko Sumo Hulk

    I've just found this, an updated sumo coming in July with 70 hour power reserve and sapphire glass. There will be a green version which looks nice.

    https://youtu.be/-Ah0knS-W84

    https://www.watcho.co.uk/Watches/Sei...RoC5RMQAvD_BwE

    I still tend to think at £740 its a bit costly but then CW are about the same now, although Steinhart are still a good chunk cheaper for their watches. What do others think?

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    It is a lot but the build quality of the Sumo isnít that far off much more expensive watches. My orange Sumo always gets very positive comments. The green version looks great.

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    yes it gets more and more costly for less and less extra quality quite rapidly at a certain point!

    Just found a hong kong based ebay seller with them at £465. seems tempting... I'm mulling.

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    £740 is a lot of cash for a Sumo.

    I think most shopping for sumos will go for Nos or good condition used at around the £350 price point.

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    Seiko Sumo Hulk

    Quote Originally Posted by LondonNeil View Post
    Just found a hong kong based ebay seller with them at £465. seems tempting... I'm mulling.
    The new Sumo?

    Thread needs more pics






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    If they put a ceramic bezel on it Iíd be interested...price would jump a lot higher though I guess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Goyne View Post
    The new Sumo?
    Supposedly,new sumo https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-SEIKO...4AAOSwS3NcZTq0

    although I guess you'd have to add import taxes to that.

    oddly and worryingly the ame seller has a second listing that is slightly cheapr

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SEIKO-PRO....c100005.m1851


    Still seems a lot to me for a watch without a ceramic bezel insert. at least it does now have a sapphire crystal.

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    Seiko Sumo Hulk

    Quote Originally Posted by LondonNeil View Post
    Supposedly,new sumo https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-SEIKO...4AAOSwS3NcZTq0

    although I guess you'd have to add import taxes to that.

    oddly and worryingly the ame seller has a second listing that is slightly cheapr

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SEIKO-PRO....c100005.m1851


    Still seems a lot to me for a watch without a ceramic bezel insert. at least it does now have a sapphire crystal.
    Thanks Neil. Looking at that insert font itís the old one I think. New one is spb103.


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    Oh. I'd misunderstood the article about the new one then, I thought the green was a new colour. Thanks for putting me straight. So £465 plus duty for a non ceramic bezel, mineral glass and not the 70hur power reserve. For the same sort of cash you could get a CW, or get a Steinhart with ceramic ans sapphire, and possible the elabore version of the ETA. While the Sumo looks nice and is otherwise well made, it seems a little overpriced to me.

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    I love this watch

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    And Crafter Blue have just released a green strap for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LondonNeil View Post
    yes it gets more and more costly for less and less extra quality quite rapidly at a certain point!

    Just found a hong kong based ebay seller with them at £465. seems tempting... I'm mulling.
    Just had a look and if it is the same one I found it looks like a different varient.

    Edit: previous model - must read thread first.😵

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    There was a private seller selling one of these on eBay, think it went for 400isj

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Goyne View Post
    The new Sumo?

    Thread needs more pics






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    The allure of of the green was to much for me, one winging its way from Japan as I type!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    The allure of of the green was to much for me, one winging its way from Japan as I type!!
    Nice! Please post some pics when it arrives.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LondonNeil View Post
    oddly and worryingly the ame seller has a second listing that is slightly cheapr
    Nothing to worry about. The first auction is denominated in Pounds Sterling whilst the second one is denominated in Euros. Thus the prices are slightly different. The two auctions are intended to target different markets.

    I also note that the first one has free postage whereas the second one has a separate postage charge.

    I should add that eBay's exchange rate calculations are very optimistic -- I've never got anything like as good an exchange rate as their calculations suggest. So the one that appears cheaper because its price is converted from Euros will probably not be as cheap when it comes to paying for it in Pounds Sterling.

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    A cracking looking Sumo . I have a black version , and wouldn't mind adding the hulk to the collection in the future .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Goyne View Post
    Nice! Please post some pics when it arrives.


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    Arrived today. First impressions are very favourable. The green is completely different dependant on the light - from near black indoors to bright green in sun light.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Arrived today. First impressions are very favourable. The green is completely different dependant on the light - from near black indoors to bright green in sun light.



    Wow looks great! Congrats and thanks for the pics. Nice dark green.


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    Looks a beaut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Arrived today. First impressions are very favourable. The green is completely different dependant on the light - from near black indoors to bright green in sun light.



    Looks lovely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Arrived today. First impressions are very favourable. The green is completely different dependant on the light - from near black indoors to bright green in sun light.



    Do you have a link for where you bought this from? Looks lovely, I'm thinking about buying one...

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    Oooph! Even nicer than I'd thought! How big does wear? What size wrist do you have? I wear a 42mm PO ok but think the sumo might be too much.

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    Gnomon ave these now for $750 US

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphajet View Post
    Gnomon ave these now for $750 US
    Have you got a link as having difficulty finding them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon8oy View Post
    Do you have a link for where you bought this from? Looks lovely, I'm thinking about buying one...

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    Brought from Seiya here -

    https://www.seiyajapan.com/collectio...-made-in-japan

    This is the JDM model - SBDC081 - which to some is more desirable than the international model. $738 plus the dreaded import charges. Not available in the UK for another 4-6 weeks.

    Ordered on Tuesday night, on the wrist Friday morning (with DHL Express option)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LondonNeil View Post
    Oooph! Even nicer than I'd thought! How big does wear? What size wrist do you have? I wear a 42mm PO ok but think the sumo might be too much.
    Wears great (this is probably my 5th or 6th Sumo, so know what to expect!) Wrist size is 7" Looks big in pictures, but IRL is fine (for me) Quite heavy on the bracelet, feels (and looks) great on the Erika's.

    Amazing what a bit of sun does to it!


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    Iíve been in London today and went to the Seiko Boutique on Brompton St.

    There was one of these in stock which I tried on. Very smart looking. They also had the black dial / bezel version, it was also £740.

    Chap told me no sapphire but 70hr power reserve.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EdHughes1 View Post
    Iíve been in London today and went to the Seiko Boutique on Brompton St.

    There was one of these in stock which I tried on. Very smart looking. They also had the black dial / bezel version, it was also £740.

    Chap told me no sapphire but 70hr power reserve.


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    It seems the chap may need to read up on his own product. New Sumo features sapphire crystals, as shown in Seiko blurb here -

    https://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/collec...rospex/SBDC081

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    It seems the chap may need to read up on his own product. New Sumo features sapphire crystals, as shown in Seiko blurb here -

    https://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/collec...rospex/SBDC081
    Hang on, I'm still catching up here but aren't there two very similar models, one with sapphire, one without. I understood that it was the without that was currently available on the UK.

    But I'm open to correction since the above is only my vague understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    Hang on, I'm still catching up here but aren't there two very similar models, one with sapphire, one without. I understood that it was the without that was currently available on the UK.

    But I'm open to correction since the above is only my vague understanding.
    From my reading of the previous post, it was the ďnewĒ Sumoís in both black and green, that retail for £740 that were tried on in the Seiko boutique. These both feature sapphire crystals (along with an upgraded movement with 70 hour PR)
    Iím sure the older models are still available, along with the original hulk talked about in this post. These still have a hardlex crystal, and 50 hour PR.

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    Fab looking watches 1

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    Its a beautiful watch but I really wished they had kept the older bezel insert...it set the Sumo apart from other dive watches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LondonNeil View Post
    yes it gets more and more costly for less and less extra quality quite rapidly at a certain point!

    Just found a hong kong based ebay seller with them at £465. seems tempting... I'm mulling.
    Are you sure it's the same model as I've found other version with Green bezel and a Blue dial? it will be the one with the 4r movement. Seconds hand with a Yellow tip.

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    [QUOTE=ELD1970;5137407]If they put a ceramic bezel on it Iíd be interested...price would jump a lot higher though I guess.


    If they offered the Sumo with a ceramic bezel then I wouldn't be interested in it. As it no longer the classic diver I look for. Also, it then becomes too blingy.

    Why does every dive watch have to have a ceramic bezel?

    I can understand Rolex...

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    Looks perfect to me, like a few watches in one in different lights.

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    [QUOTE=speedish;5146844]
    Quote Originally Posted by ELD1970 View Post
    Why does every dive watch have to have a ceramic bezel?

    I can understand Rolex...

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    It doesn't, but for me £740 is getting expensive and I'd not want it to get beaten up, so I'd like a ceramic bezel. Or at least I'd like the choice. Steinhart give you the choice, Aluminium or Ceramic for a tenner more so yo can choose, something that will fade/can be ghosted and will scratch, or something resistant to that damage.

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    [QUOTE=LondonNeil;5147226]
    Quote Originally Posted by speedish View Post
    It doesn't, but for me £740 is getting expensive and I'd not want it to get beaten up, so I'd like a ceramic bezel. Or at least I'd like the choice. Steinhart give you the choice, Aluminium or Ceramic for a tenner more so yo can choose, something that will fade/can be ghosted and will scratch, or something resistant to that damage.
    Well, Seiko or Rolex doesn't give you a choice. So, I'm afraid it Steinhart is for you.

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    [QUOTE=speedish;5147312]
    Quote Originally Posted by LondonNeil View Post

    Well, Seiko or Rolex doesn't give you a choice. So, I'm afraid it Steinhart is for you.

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    In my opinion, fading and ghosting are parts of character or patina.

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    love it

    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Wears great (this is probably my 5th or 6th Sumo, so know what to expect!) Wrist size is 7" Looks big in pictures, but IRL is fine (for me) Quite heavy on the bracelet, feels (and looks) great on the Erika's.

    Amazing what a bit of sun does to it!

    Thanks for this pics, have been considering this as my next purchase, those pics may just have pushed me over!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELD1970 View Post
    If they put a ceramic bezel on it Iíd be interested...price would jump a lot higher though I guess.


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    Itís easy to find a ceramic bezel for the previous model ie DLW. The current one may fit the new model and if it doesnít then I canít imagine it will be long before one appears!


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    Does it have AR coating of any kind? Canít seem to find it. Some pictures online show more reflections than others.


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    It does look nice and I didnít notice the change of bezel font which is more conservative now. However I did notice the change in the hour hand which I donít prefer as much as the old one.


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    I wish I didn't stumble across this thread.
    That Sumo is very nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Goyne View Post
    Does it have AR coating of any kind? Canít seem to find it. Some pictures online show more reflections than others.


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    Its hard to say. There can be some reflection in the light, but itís very legible. The sunburst dial makes it hard to tell, as the light plays off it in different ways. Sorry I canít be more helpful!

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    Nice comparison video here (LINK) ordered one now I ave seen this, it looks fantastic!

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    hmm, ich nicht spreken deutche gut.

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    Just like reading the Sun newspaper of old - I only looked at the pictures!

    Not too interested in what they have to say, I wanted to get a proper look at the watch and it worked for me. I should have mentioned the foreign source though I suppose



    Quote Originally Posted by LondonNeil View Post
    hmm, ich nicht spreken deutche gut.

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    [QUOTE=LondonNeil;5147226]
    Quote Originally Posted by speedish View Post
    It doesn't, but for me £740 is getting expensive and I'd not want it to get beaten up, so I'd like a ceramic bezel. Or at least I'd like the choice. Steinhart give you the choice, Aluminium or Ceramic for a tenner more so yo can choose, something that will fade/can be ghosted and will scratch, or something resistant to that damage.
    Resistant to fading but shatters if knocked hard. Not sure that is an upgrade.

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