I know your not going to believe us but we're going to win the league.
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Good to see so many good teams trying to break the top 6 hegemony. Wolves last year, and I think Leicester will finish top 6 easily this year.
That's why the Premier League is the best in the world.
Etihad yesterday. 2nd goal goes in, I assumed it was KDB's. Players trot back and line-up to kick off when the ref starts grabbing his each in the VAR mode. Finally the giant screen saif Checking Goal. It went on and on and on. Both sets of fame chanting against it. Finally awarded.
It's not for me in this current guise, it's just ruinous of the game, IMHO. The match going fans are actually the least informed participants in the whole farce and that's before you get to the changing rules every week.
Totally agree. It took over two minutes and the crowd were getting more and more frustrated. The booing went on and on. What made me laugh was Spanish Dave telling the ref it was his goal and he kept pointing to his foot. That would have made the goal offside. We weren’t at our best but a decent result in difficult conditions. We are missing too many chances. Felt sorry for Gabby. Worked tirelessly and deserved a goal.
Liverpool looked good. Spurs not so.
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VAR looks like it's giving every minute thing, taking common sense right out of the decisions, Arsenal were unlucky today with that disallowed goal, and the Zaha penalty was one of those i hate seeing, a player seeing a leg and diving over it, sadly looks like we're now going clinical rather than sensible, the benefit of VAR for me is actual tight calls, but having it cover decisions that are interpretation isn't good as can be seen over and over again.
VAR had a mare for United's first pen today. Unsure how it could possibly have been given.
The referee's VAR monitor is there to see the incident again, to either confirm his decision or change it, there have not used it once this season just accepting what the people is Stockley Park is telling them, what an absolute joke.
I believe if Martin Atkinson viewed Arsenal's disallowed goal against Crystal Palace on the VAR monitor he would of over turned VAR decision.
I had KDB in my fantasy team and was sure it was his goal.
If Silva had kept his trap shut instead of arguing that the ball may have inadvertently brushed his foot the incident could have been resolved faster.
As it is I really hate VAR and think it has ruined the game.
I honestly believe that VAR is not the problem, it is Mike Riley’s decision to bring in his own protocol for it’s use in the Premier League.
To my mind, the only reason for this is that he does not want to see his PGMOL referees over-ruled when they make a poor decision (which they do often, again due to his ridiculous mandates on things like hand-ball).
He obviously thinks that constantly over-ruling the referee will reflect badly on PGMOL and therefore him, and so he set the bar so high for a “clear and obvious error” that no decisions were being over-ruled.
Now, after last weeks shite-fest, they have gone the other way this weekend, but again it has resulted in some more ludicrous decisions.
Riley is a joke, and how he avoids getting hauled in front of the media to explain himself following these debacles is beyond me.
He, and his flawed protocols, need to go ASAP.
Timmy was absolutely outstanding yesterday, the hugs and look of joy on the youngest face (16 and taller than me) made the rest of a tough match to watch worth it.
The first pen call was a joke how the hell is that not being shouted about more in the press. If it was against a bigger club it would be everywhere
Pitch
Re VAR it just goes to show how obvious it is that teams like Man City and Arsenal get f@cked by the authorities. Even with bleeding obvious evidence the decisions go against them. Particularly Man City there is a hidden agenda against. Liverpool and Tottenham are massive beneficiaries this season.
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Hmm yeah Liverpool were massive beneficiaries of VAR against Man Utd?
I’m not a fan in its current guise so it does need to change but I don’t agree that Tottenham/Liverpool are major beneficiaries of it.
Last year the cry was cheating scousers will never win anything with VAR now it’s conspiracy to ensure they win 😂😂😂
Surely Arsenal are more than capable of throwing away points without the help of “the authorities”? ;-)
I’d be more prepared to believe a pro-Man U anti-Man City conspiracy, but like many other things the reality of these VAR shenanigans is more likely incompetence related.
That said, how many penalties for Man U this season?
I think they’re missing a trick with VAR... treat it a bit like cricket and if the decision isn’t blatantly wrong, go with ref/linesman’s decision.
There have been several goals chalked off due to the narrowest of offsides. Cricket accepts that the technology isn’t 100% so if an LBW is a bit close, you go with the umpire’s call. I don’t believe that a handful of static cameras that may or may not be level with play can define with the degree off accuracy they’re credited with whether a player is offside when the ball is played... not down to the millimetres that seem to be the difference.
Personally, I’d get rid of it completely, but if we have to have it, let’s just use it to get rid of the howlers.
The ridiculous thing is, years ago when refs were amateurs and made errors they said if we make them professional with them training full time the standard of refereeing will go up - of course it didn't.
Next, we have wonderful modern VAR technology to alleviate errors - it's now worse!
The whole thing is a joke.
VAR is here to stay and will be more frequent - foul throw ins! FIFA, UEFA, FA will be sniffing out opportunities to make money from TV advertising during the breaks. Ray Winston’s mug to look forward to during VAR breaks with the VAR decision nicely timed to fit in.
On another subject, Mohammed Bin Salman poking around United!
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Just give the managers two VAR decisions each per game.
That's all that's needed.
I may be taking some bait that I haven't seen here thegoat, but why on earth wouldn't you want the Glazers to stay...?!?!?! Unless you have a secret fondness for us and want to see us implement some sort of sensible football-related strategy.
Im not sure why anyone would want to buy United...... The cost to return just don't make sense. They have seen their peak..... Stadium needs a revamp oh and the skittles on the pitch lol?
In all honesty the best premiership club I think is Newcastle, in terms of what you get for your buck. No doubt MA wants out but at just how much. I see a initial difficulty in attarcting top players due to the geographical nature of the beast but once established then im sure the doors will open.
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If I was into conspiracy theories I would agree that all the VAR stopping during a football match would be manna from heaven for the people who sell the advertising breaks.
When you watch NFL there are countless breaks as teams/squads are exchanged after every play and the gaps are handily filled with adverts.
Football was far too free flowing with a break only at half time - couldn't have that could they?
Wishful thinking I'm afraid Merkaholic
1 - We generate more revenue than almost every other football club on the planet.
2 - We would be even more profitable if an owner were to buy us outright and get rid of the Glazer-related debt that has to be paid-down every year.
3 - If you had an image problem from oh, I don't know, human rights abuses, and wanted a club to help sportswash it, you'd probably look at a club that has better recognition than, again, virtually any other sporting organisation on the planet.
That's why
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No bait pal .
I’d be happy to see every football team in the league with untold wealth . It’d put an end to those gormless discussions about “ buying the league” so favoured by fans of teams who , basically, aren’t winning the league.
Plus, I’d look forward to all your fans on a moral crusade against “ dirty oil money” ripping up their season tickets .😉
Haha...fair enough!
Lots of noise around Mourinho replacing Emery at Arsenal
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Emery has to go. Ozil was completely manshaming Liverpool and he takes him off.
When it was 4-3 I joked to my mate it would be 5-5
Crazy but entertaining game.
Totally agree his subs were stupid, Ozil was having the game of his life and he comes off. Torreira is playing well and our main defensive midfielder (if such a thing exists at Arsenal) and he takes him off for Cabellos!!! why not take off Saka the kid was out of energy. Ozil needs to be in our squad every match, fair enough not start him but hes worth having on the bench. I like the kids getting a chance but not at the expense of someone who can win matches.
I said months ago Emery has no clue what so ever and he is just getting worse, the whole Xhaka situation, his team selections, everything is just stupid.
Since Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's first game in charge on December 22nd, Manchester United have taken more penalties (17) and scored more penalties (12) than any other Premier League team in all competitions.
Extraordinary. Definitely not bent...
Out of the 17, could you break down which you think should not have been penalties?
And, as a grown man, do you really believe there is some sort of policy at official level trying to make sure some teams get more penalties than others?
EDIT: Another interesting stat, City have hit the woodwork twice as many times this season as the next team (10 times v 5 times) -- do you think someone is controlling a magnet in the ball making it miss? Or maybe opposing teams make the goals a few inches smaller when City come??
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An expensive night out for this gentleman and not a great story for his 2 team mates
https://www.theguardian.com/football...-reduced-wages
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ettlement.html
Wouldn’t normally post a Mail link but The Times article is behind a paywall . I’ve been following this for a while now and it seems that finally the FA are attempting to find out a little more .
Here’s a stat (still thinking about Wednesday’s match)
Since Klopp arrived at Liverpool they’ve played Arsenal 9 times in all competitions. 49 goals in all, with 6 Liverpool wins and 3 draws. That must be some kind of record. Who needs defenders?!
Late come back for Liverpool there.
Blades continue to impress.
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Oh my days....... LFC have done it again
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Villa were terrible
Don't pretend we were lucky as we had about 80% possession and all the play
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