I want to build an aircraft hangar in the back garden - PP required?

[Mike Wood]

I'm considering erecting a steel aircraft hangar type building in my back garden to house my motorhome and various cars.

Floor space will be around 40x30 feet, access height around 12 feet, apex roof.

It will take up most of my back garden, and is in a normal residential area, with the garden facing on to a road behind a 4' brick wall. The side of the hangar will be 4-5' from the utility room extension on the back of my house.

Will I require planning permission (I think steel buildings are regarded as temporary buildings?).

Guidance from experienced forum members would be appreciated!

Mike Wood

[DavidL]

You need to look at permitted development rules. The issue you will have is the proportion of the space you have; if its "most of the garden" it would not be allowed if anyone objected.
A friend built exactly what you plan, 9m x 6m and 4m at the ridge. But he was very careful to make it the correct distance from the boundary and measured carefully the volume against available space he was using.
Even so a neighbour complained and planning came to check, but he was correct. Didn't help neighbourly relations mind.
That was a steel building too so I don't think you'll get much leniency there.

Details for PD are readily available online. If you are in a conversation area or area of outstanding natural beauty its different, more strict, again.

[Tooks]

If you’re that close to your boundaries then on height alone it would most likely not be permitted development.

Speak to your planning department at the council, they’re generally very helpful (if council cuts haven’t rendered them very short handed) and will guide you down the correct path.

[IanBear]

I genuinely came into this thread wondering whether you were asking if a Patek was required :D

[Comet]

Hi Mike

Maximum ridge height for permitted development is 4m for a pitched roof but less for a flat roof.
Area of outbuildings must less than 50% of your garden (other outbuildings need to be taken into account) and 2ms from any boundary. It is a good idea to get a permitted development certificate of lawfullnes (about £70 from memory).
Lots of free info on the government and local council planning portals.
We had to go for full planning because we wanted to be closer to a boundary than 2m.

[Dave O'Sullivan]

As others have said, it'll be very unlikely that this will go through under PD.
Local planning officer will be the best form of advice you'll get.
Good luck with it though, sounds cool!

[GraniteQuarry]

You might get away with a tent-type thing (like Rubb below) as temporary, but otherwise 99.9% likely PP will be required for the reasons above.

https://www.rubbuk.com/

[Mick P]

Instead of blighting the local landscape and devaluing your own house as well as that of your poor inocent neighbours, why not rent an appropriate building on say an industrial estate where this sort of thing belongs.

[Velorum]

As an aside, when my previous wife and I were looking for a house I really wanted to buy a semi detached one with a 250ft garden that backed onto fields. The house was horrible and needed loads of work but the garden contained two beautiful double garages at the bottom along with there large sheds. All were immaculate, were fully insulated and had power. One of the garages had an inspection pit. This fitted in with my plan at the time of starting a business on the side which would locate, buy, lightly renovate and then store a number of Volvo 240 estates and saloons. She wasn't having any of it. Look at the price of these things now, they are considered classics and I would have made a good few bob. The current Mrs V would be up for anything like this but unfortunately that particular ship has sailed. It strikes me that a similar scheme with Mk2/MK2.5 MX5's would work as they can be picked up cheaply at the moment. That wont last.


Sorry to digress.

[mart broad]

Instead of blighting the local landscape and devaluing your own house as well as that of your poor inocent neighbours, why not rent an appropriate building on say an industrial estate where this sort of thing belongs.

This^

[mrushton]

I just thought the watch collection had got out of hand

[Mike Wood]

Instead of blighting the local landscape and devaluing your own house as well as that of your poor inocent neighbours, why not rent an appropriate building on say an industrial estate where this sort of thing belongs.

Have been trying for some time...there is just nothing inside a reasonable radius of home.

MW

[Mick P]

Have been trying for some time...there is just nothing inside a reasonable radius of home.

MW

There is always something available, try looking harder and if you are really stuck, employ an agent to seek something out for you.

What you are doing is, to quote Prince Charles, building a carbuncle and you will become as popular as a dose of the clap in a nunnery.

[FazerBoy]

Instead of blighting the local landscape and devaluing your own house as well as that of your poor inocent neighbours, why not rent an appropriate building on say an industrial estate where this sort of thing belongs.

I have to say I agree with this, although I might have worded it slightly less harshly myself.

I would not want to be your next-door neighbour if you were to construct such a thing, whether it requires planning consent or not.

[geoffcotton]

Yes definitely. If you build it and some neighbours object you might be on a sticky wicket with local planning. Also. I’m sure there’s some ruling that your original garden area can only be reduced in size by a certain amount.
Check it out before you build it

I'm considering erecting a steel aircraft hangar type building in my back garden to house my motorhome and various cars.

Floor space will be around 40x30 feet, access height around 12 feet, apex roof.

It will take up most of my back garden, and is in a normal residential area, with the garden facing on to a road behind a 4' brick wall. The side of the hangar will be 4-5' from the utility room extension on the back of my house.

Will I require planning permission (I think steel buildings are regarded as temporary buildings?).

Guidance from experienced forum members would be appreciated!

Mike Wood

[Mr G Imp]

I'm considering erecting a steel aircraft hangar type building in my back garden to house my motorhome and various cars.

Floor space will be around 40x30 feet, access height around 12 feet, apex roof.

It will take up most of my back garden, and is in a normal residential area, with the garden facing on to a road behind a 4' brick wall. The side of the hangar will be 4-5' from the utility room extension on the back of my house.

Will I require planning permission (I think steel buildings are regarded as temporary buildings?).

Guidance from experienced forum members would be appreciated!

Mike Wood

This link explains all you need to know - hope it’s of some help. You may have to reduce the size and your good to go!

https://www.planningni.gov.uk/index/...me_garages.htm





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[Mr G Imp]

Patek optional I would say.


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[relaxer7]

Glad you don't live next to me!

[langdalematt]

Sell a few watches and upgrade to a bigger house with land and outbuildings, simples!

[seadog1408]

Lol , first world problems!

[Skyman]

Instead of blighting the local landscape and devaluing your own house as well as that of your poor inocent neighbours, why not rent an appropriate building on say an industrial estate where this sort of thing belongs.

For once Mr P, we agree. OP, simply look wider afield and perhaps nearby industrial units. Who wants to live next door to a hangar - boot on other foot? Otherwise, you sound like the perfect neighbour from hell. Or, stop scrimping, and buy a bigger property with land to suit.

[number2]

You are John Travolta and I claim my £5.00

[Raffe]

You need one of these:

[snowman]

Patek optional I would say.

G-Shock essential though, for when you're timing how long it takes to drink a cup of tea while watching the builders at work.

M

[UKMike]

As an aside, when my previous wife and I were looking for a house I really wanted to buy a semi detached one with a 250ft garden that backed onto fields. The house was horrible and needed loads of work but the garden contained two beautiful double garages at the bottom along with there large sheds. All were immaculate, were fully insulated and had power. One of the garages had an inspection pit. This fitted in with my plan at the time of starting a business on the side which would locate, buy, lightly renovate and then store a number of Volvo 240 estates and saloons. She wasn't having any of it. Look at the price of these things now, they are considered classics and I would have made a good few bob. The current Mrs V would be up for anything like this but unfortunately that particular ship has sailed. It strikes me that a similar scheme with Mk2/MK2.5 MX5's would work as they can be picked up cheaply at the moment. That wont last.


Sorry to digress.

I like your thought process - who needs a house anyway other than to sleep in.

[Dave O'Sullivan]

Mike, I assume you've considered a sub-terrainian Batman style cave?

[Mr.D]

I always read this thread as “I want to build an aircraft carrier in the back garden”

I then get images on Donald Trump in robes doing a Noah on his golf course with a hastily assembled Nimitz class on the fairway behind him.

[Mike Wood]

Mike, I assume you've considered a sub-terrainian Batman style cave?

I'm a mile from the beach, and water table is less than 3 feet. None of my vehicles are amphibious!

;-)

[Saint-Just]

In that case you need to build your hangar on stilts!