Reply With QuoteOh dear that is worrying.🤔Originally Posted by Mark lowman
I seem to have the “full set”.
I also need to confess that the only reason I bought a G-Shock was because it’s apparently the WIS thing to do!🤣
I've had a Chronomaster and currently have the SBGV005. Both are superb. On paper, the Citizen certainly outscores the GS but:
- with such high quality quartz watches, the likelihood of needing the additional warranty period is probably very low
- Seiko are notoriously conservative in their accuracy claims and users seem to report accuracy within 5spy (the GS also allows easy calibration if you wanted to push for something even better)
- the ease of the perpetual calendar is nice but turning over the date a few times a year isn't exactly a deal-breaker (and in many ways it's quite nice to have to interact with the watch from time to time)
- the GS needs hacking for any hour change whereas the Chronmaster has an independently adjustable hour hand - that is their best technical advantage, imo
- GS can claim their bits of technical superiority too, though: 2 step motor, instantaneous date change, sealed motor etc. etc.
The polishing on the Chronomasters seems to me to be comparable to GS but their choice of case design means that, certainly compared to the larger GS cases (SBGVs), and especially the 44GS inspired ones, the Citizens are much less impressive on the wrist, if only because the polished areas are so much smaller. Similarly, the Chronomaster dials tend to be a little more conservative, offering fewer surfaces for the polishing to shine. In a nutshell, GS gives you more "flash".
That said, I'd love to see the eco drive black washi paper dial Chronomaster (AQ4030-51E) in the flesh. And if Citizen introduce their 1spy movement into their general collection then it'll give GS something to think about.
Oh dear that is worrying.🤔
I seem to have the “full set”.
I also need to confess that the only reason I bought a G-Shock was because it’s apparently the WIS thing to do!🤣
That one wasn't my watch (different serial number) although I did indeed sell mine as I felt the case was too large for the style of watch. Back to the main point, I did have a bit of trouble with that IWC and it took them a while to fix it (under warranty). It didn't put me off though and I have owned a trouble-free 323909 for the last 3 years or so, as well as a JLC Geophysic, which I'd argue is a great Rolex alternative.
I use Omega Service Centre for all my Omegas and have never had any issues res ervicing or spare parts.
They really do a superb job these days with a reasonably rapid turnaround.
The service they carried out on my 1964 Constellation particularly impressed me, it now runs beautifully, especially given that its over 50 years old.
No problem sir.
Not just a date, but a Big Date
Can you give us a variety of types and sizes of watches you’d like?
Sub’-stitute - for me it would be a similarly sized fifty fathoms, although they are a little more expensive
Stainless dress - GS make some incredibly nice watches that seem very good value in sizes from 36-41mm
Gold - JLC have made some lovely gold watches lately
For context, I have 5 Rolexes which have been trouble free for the few years I’ve had 4 of them (5th arrived yesterday) and the youngest watch is from 1983. I’m now going through a similar thought pattern to you because, although I find Rolexes very nice I will be getting rid of at least one in favour of other brands purely because 1 vintage submariner can buy something a lot more interesting and less commonplace.
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At 40mm or 41mm I would buy that watch instantly. At 43mm it is simply too big for me and a lot of other folks as well....
Zenith - CP2 for example with the El Primero 36000 4600 movement. Very readable chrono.
As somebody previously suggested it’s best to look at it model by model
Datejust - Aqua Terra - Zenith Captain
Submariner - Seamaster - Blancpain - Breitling - IWC
Daytona - Breguet XX , Vacheron Overseas and for historical signicance the Moonwatch or maybe the Co Axial Speedmasters
Then you have dress options from JLC, AP , VC , PP , Zenith etc.
You could throw in the IWC Portuguese for a Chrono as well
Tudor
Loving this at a similar price segment
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I suppose you could argue that, right now, there is no genuine alternative. Factor in demand, resale values, build quality, service and so on....there is no obvious rival. None can provide the same ‘package’ overall.
How's the rubber strap on this?Loving this at a similar price segment
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Very nice. Similar to the SS version but with ceramic buckle
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I think a Zenith El Primero Rainbow is underrated....and it has a date...
This thread reads like an advert for Zenith and Rolex but if you like the IWC get the IWC.
Did you order some shoulderless spring bars for this?:-)
Looks nice!Loving this at a similar price segment
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Shame they made it 43mm. That would overpower my 6.3 inch wrist.
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A few have mentioned Blancpain and I would have to second that. The standard fifty fathoms is a gorgeous watch, amazing lume, and looks good on sailcloth, NATO or the very pricey bracelet.
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I’ve got one of those - may I ask what strap that is?10 years in and still in my collection. Never had any issues.
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43mm? What a shame. I have the old wave dial superquartz and was very taken with this latest design now the wave is back but didn’t realise how big it was.
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Sure. Combat Straps
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I know Simon, I am hoping next year they bring out the midsize 38.5mm.
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Have you considered buying carefully 2 or 3 pre owned watches for the equivalent price of a Rolex?
Buying at the right price will mean minimal depreciation anyway.
A Seamaster 2254.50 with fantastic Lume , good build quality and in its day a better bracelet than a sub
An IWC MK bought together could be had for 4k.
Why not actually try the watch on?
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