Is this Rolex real

**daraghmack** · 25th May 2019, 14:58

Hi all, I know nothing about Rolex and my brother knows very little however we would really appreciate your informed opinions. My brother was offered the watch below with no box or papers, he is worried about its authenticity as he said that the bracelet in particular feels flimsy. Can anyone tell from the photos whether this is likely to be a fake?
Apologies for my ignorance and thanks in advance for your helpful comments.
Daragh.

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**GraniteQuarry** · 25th May 2019, 15:02

That caseback sticker being so clean and intact is very fishy, as they generally fade and come off within a couple months of wear.

So seems unusual for an unworn watch to have no box or papers...

**David_D** · 25th May 2019, 15:04

Usual rules. Buy the seller.

I'd get it checked over by someone who knows their stuff.

How much is it being offered for?

**David_D** · 25th May 2019, 15:07

Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry

That caseback sticker being so clean and intact is very fishy, as they generally fade and come off within a couple months of wear.

Plus when did they stop having a sticker like that on the back? A decade ago?

**hughtrimble** · 25th May 2019, 15:15

Also, he 'was offered' a gold day date without knowing anything about them? If this is out of the blue, then that sounds... shifty. And if he was looking for one, then I'd hope he'd try and learn about them.

Best you both steer clear unless you buy from a reputable dealer.

**boundary546** · 25th May 2019, 15:15

The 118238 was introduced in 2017, the green caseback sticker hasn’t been used since around 2008. And what is the NG for ???
I’d be very sceptical with this one

**daraghmack** · 25th May 2019, 15:16

Originally Posted by David_D

Usual rules. Buy the seller.

I'd get it checked over by someone who knows their stuff.

How much is it being offered for?

It's a strange story, he actually knows the seller quite well and no issues there, the problem is that the seller doesn't know if it's real or not. He has a business and this was the only thing he could get out of an insolvent customer against a debt owed, he took it in the hope that it's real because he wasnt going to be offered anything else. Probably worth having it verified with an AD but just thought I'd try here first.
If this is real, what's it worth?

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**David_D** · 25th May 2019, 15:16

Not easy to see from your photos but the day display doesn't look like this one:

https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-da...38-oyster.html

and the caseback sticker is in a different font.

**daraghmack** · 25th May 2019, 15:17

Originally Posted by boundary546

The 118238 was introduced in 2017, the green caseback sticker hasn’t been used since around 2008. And what is the NG for ???
I’d be very sceptical with this one

Thanks, I think this says it all!

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**boundary546** · 25th May 2019, 15:18

Originally Posted by daraghmack

It's a strange story, he actually knows the seller quite well and no issues there, the problem is that the seller doesn't know if it's real or not. He has a business and this was the only thing he could get out of an insolvent customer against a debt owed, he took it in the hope that it's real because he wasnt going to be offered anything else. Probably worth having it verified with an AD but just thought I'd try here first.
If this is real, what's it worth?

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Well I hope he was only owed a couple of hundred quid !!!
It’s not real so pointless asking what it’s worth if it was

**David_D** · 25th May 2019, 15:19

Originally Posted by boundary546

The 118238 was introduced in 2017, the green caseback sticker hasn’t been used since around 2008. And what is the NG for ???
I’d be very sceptical with this one

I haven't a clue but the link I posted claims to be a Z serial (2006-2007).

https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-da...38-oyster.html

**daraghmack** · 25th May 2019, 15:21

Originally Posted by boundary546

Well I hope he was only owed a couple of hundred quid !!!
It’s not real so pointless asking what it’s worth if it was

I think he was owed a good bit more was was never going to see any of it anyway regardless.

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**aksing** · 25th May 2019, 15:22

I presume the watch doesn't weigh like a full gold watch which is a lot heavier, 100g more, than a gold plated fake so that is an easy tell. Go to any watch shop and weigh a SS and compare.

**David_D** · 25th May 2019, 15:22

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/day...id10180462.htm

Note the six and nine o'clock diamonds are different shape (baguette?!) to the other hour markers.

**Jocke** · 25th May 2019, 15:27

Originally Posted by boundary546

And what is the NG for ???

Not Genuine.

**daraghmack** · 25th May 2019, 15:45

Originally Posted by Jocke

Not Genuine.

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**Dave O'Sullivan** · 25th May 2019, 15:51

Less real than Dolly Parton's boobies.

**GraniteQuarry** · 25th May 2019, 15:53

Originally Posted by Dave O'Sullivan

Less real than Dolly Parton's boobies.

There's a fantastic rumor that her melons are covered in tattoos!

**daraghmack** · 25th May 2019, 16:57

Originally Posted by aksing

I presume the watch doesn't weigh like a full gold watch which is a lot heavier, 100g more, than a gold plated fake so that is an easy tell. Go to any watch shop and weigh a SS and compare.

Complete watch and bracelet as shown in photo weighs just 125g.
Thanks all, very satisfied that it's a fake.

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**Griswold** · 25th May 2019, 18:22

Originally Posted by boundary546

And what is the NG for ???
I’d be very sceptical with this one

Originally Posted by Jocke

Not Genuine.

Oh yes.

**scooby** · 25th May 2019, 18:39

Maybe it was sourced from the dealer in norwich the scrap man

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**J3w3ll3r** · 25th May 2019, 19:13

Originally Posted by boundary546

The 118238 was introduced in 2017, the green caseback sticker hasn’t been used since around 2008. And what is the NG for ???
I’d be very sceptical with this one

The 118238 with that clasp was introduced circa 2005, the 118238 with the older clasp was circa 2001 give or take a year

I believe you are referring to the 128238

However I’m making no comment regarding real or not

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**aksing** · 25th May 2019, 23:49

Originally Posted by daraghmack

Complete watch and bracelet as shown in photo weighs just 125g.
Thanks all, very satisfied that it's a fake.

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There you go.

**nibby** · 25th May 2019, 23:58

Originally Posted by daraghmack

Complete watch and bracelet as shown in photo weighs just 125g.
Thanks all, very satisfied that it's a fake.

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With that weight the NG stands for not gold

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**MB2** · 26th May 2019, 20:47

I would also expect Rolex are capable of sticking the case back sticker in the middle ?

**bokbok** · 27th May 2019, 21:55

Very likely to be fake looks small for a day date

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**daraghmack** · 27th May 2019, 22:28

Thanks for all of your responses and useful advice guys, I appreciate it.

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