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    PRS-19 Trench Watch

    I may have found a suitable movement for this one at last! Pictures soon.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Excellent news

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    That is good news!

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Pity there is already a PRS 14 and 18, cos it could have been called the PRS 14/18

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Who will be the first to start a thread entitled "TRENCH FEVER", I wonder? :D

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Dial side



    Back side







    I don't know anything more about it yet, it was one of those "what do you think of this?" packages which arrived with no explanatory notes.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    ....it was one of those "what do you think of this?" packages which arrived with no explanatory notes.Eddie
    Yeah, happens to me all the time....

    Looks nice though. :D

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

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    Wow. Very Germanic. Well made too, with screwed chattons ... no corners cut here. Would they come to you ready-prepared or will they need setting up?

    Make sure there are spares ... and grab them before Panerai does.

    john
    Costume jewellery. Ouch!!!

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
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    Wow. Very Germanic. Well made too, with screwed chattons ... no corners cut here. Would they come to you ready-prepared or will they need setting up?

    Make sure there are spares ... and grab them before Panerai does.

    john
    I'll have a gold filled "Richmond Spencer" engraved on the movement and they will be set-up to perform as well as they're capable of performing. I think it's a beautiful looking movement but don't let that stop anyone slagging it off. :twisted:

    Eddie
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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Excuse my ignorance, but what movement is it ?

    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptcoll
    Excuse my ignorance, but what movement is it ?

    Pete
    I don't know anything more about it yet, it was one of those "what do you think of this?" packages which arrived with no explanatory notes.
    I don't know why I bother. :roll:

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Looks the business and very elegant too. :)
    This should come up a real great. I love the blued screws and the chatons, and the swan-neck regulator. Beautiful.

    Look forward to seeing more.

    Best wishes,
    AP:)

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    That it really good looking movement :love4: Reminds me of Dornblulth...

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    I think Tero nailed it!

    Looks da bomb Eddie :D

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Beautifully but not over beautifully finished.

    Maybe a bit too much steel for a display back but bit too good, and expensive, to be shut away.

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    I'll take 005, please, and open the floodgates. :lol:

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Interesting arrangement of the wheel train. It looks like the center wheel stone isn't visible from the movement side. No recesses for the screws on the balance bridge, or the pallet bridge. (I think that that is very old fashioned? But the movement is pretty modern. No screw for the stem, and a moveable stud carrier.)

    The dial side is unusual as well. There is some sort of plate at the subseconds. And it looks like the subseconds is being driven by the escape wheel, which would be odd, indeed. So, is it indirect subseconds? (I would love to see what's under that plate.)



    Best wishes,
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    Eddie, I remember you said your next watches would not be limited editions. I wonder if that would be the case with this watch. I mean, such movements must be very hard to find...If that is the case, and sorry to say this, I AM IN (and I do not care about any number). Another year of excitement ahead of us....

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    nice movement... typical german 3/4 plate... a little bit more on finishing will be perfect !
    i'll not think twice to book 1 as well.....

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Quote Originally Posted by ptcoll
    Excuse my ignorance, but what movement is it ?

    Pete
    I don't know anything more about it yet, it was one of those "what do you think of this?" packages which arrived with no explanatory notes.
    I don't know why I bother. :roll:

    Eddie
    Yes, but tell me, really, what is it?

    :D Looking good, though.

    Cheers

    Henrik

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Another one to look forward to Eddie.

    Dave

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    That is one wonderful looking movement Eddie!
    I'm not as think as you drunk I am.

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Lovely looking movement :D

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Good news Eddie,

    It seems to be far nicer than the movements you mentioned a year ago (that Fricker could get a hold of)
    The movement looks beautiful and though a bit to elaborate for a workhorse trenchwatch I would mind looking at it to a display back
    and a trench watch is one I have been waiting for........ and I almost thought it ended up on the backburner....

    I've been saving up for this one, the CAF and the SB-3.... [and I'm not mentioning the 'Paul Newman' :twisted: ] luckily the gestation period of these gave me time enough to make my bankmanager happy and get some interest on the savings too :wink:

    Quote Originally Posted by Seamaster73
    I'll take 005, please, and open the floodgates. :lol:
    Although some forummmers had reservations the floodgates opened a year ago....... :roll:
    viewtopic.php?f=17&t=26172

    we're having some nice things to look forward to ( and I'm still in for my favourite #25)

    Jeroen

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Seamaster73
    I'll take 005, please, and open the floodgates. :lol:
    Although some forummmers had reservations the floodgates opened a year ago....... :roll:
    viewtopic.php?f=17&t=26172

    we're having some nice things to look forward to

    Jeroen

    True about the reservations, though Eddie said he wasn't taking any until he had the movement...which is now? I'm on that early list too, but just for insurance, I'll still take #18 :D


    Ryan

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by messenius
    That it really good looking movement :love4: Reminds me of Dornblulth...
    'Steady now' (churchill's voice)

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Judging by the lack of enthusiasm, I'm beginning to doubt that the project is worth the investment.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Judging by the lack of enthusiasm, I'm beginning to doubt that the project is worth the investment
    I haven't spoken on this one yet, but you have my backing as usual if you do go ahead Eddie :wink:

    Cheers

    Foggy

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Judging by the lack of enthusiasm, I'm beginning to doubt that the project is worth the investment.

    Eddie
    As a watch n00b I'd like to know what a trench watch is before I decide if I like it! Anyone any pics? Whilst that movement above looks great the case has to look great too... ;)

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Judging by the lack of enthusiasm, I'm beginning to doubt that the project is worth the investment.

    Eddie
    You can count me in. I've always fancied a trench watch.

    Cheers

    Rob

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    The image from the original thread showing the trenchy has gorn missing! Anyone got it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Judging by the lack of enthusiasm, I'm beginning to doubt that the project is worth the investment.

    Eddie
    :shock: Well, more than 1000 views of the thread indicates something..... :roll: :bounce: :drunken:

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Would it help if I pre-ordered two? :lol: :lol:

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Wow. What movement is it?

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    I'm in for the long haul. This will be something unique in my collection based just on the movement. The case and dial will be like frosting and whipped cream on the cake.

    If there are doubts about proceeding with the project, I'd be willing to place a non-refundable deposit of £100 or so to assure a reasonable Return on Investment for Eddie (yes, I was an accountant in a former life). This has been discussed before so don't flame me for bringing it up again. Prices for movements and most watch components are getting to the point of insanity which makes it harder to decide to go ahead with a project like this.

    I'd guess there is more pride and satisfaction for Eddie than £ profit on some recent models. I expect it would be difficult to even fully tabulate the hours spent on each project, let alone doing an actual profit analysis.

    I like the idea as originally defined and pictured, I especially like the movement and look forward to another Timefactors project with many fathers.

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeB
    The image from the original thread showing the trenchy has gorn missing! Anyone got it?


    john
    Costume jewellery. Ouch!!!

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    Thanks John :) Just as I thought, its lovely. I want one!

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    I'm in, as I indicated previously Eddie. By the number of hours I've spent in bunkers recently, I should think a trench watch would be very appropriate wear :|

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalu
    By the number of hours I've spent in bunkers recently, I should think a trench watch would be very appropriate wear :|
    :shock: Good luck Colin....

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    I'm glad to see this one resurfacing, though admittedly my view of the watch swings wildly between love and not interested.

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Its probably too late but have you considered gold Eddie?

    Don't know why but it suddenly makes this project hugely exciting to me.

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    I did consider silver but not gold. It's not a good time to be buying gold.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    I did consider silver but not gold. It's not a good time to be buying gold.

    Eddie
    Silver would be nice, for me the right blend between luxury and understatement....
    a gold one would probably be to bling ( at least for my taste)

    Jeroen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeroen
    Silver would be nice, for me the right blend between luxury and understatement....
    a gold one would probably be to bling ( at least for my taste)

    Jeroen
    Agree.

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    A gold one with diamonds on the dial would be wicked!

    Only kidding of course Eddie...

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Is this going to be the Jacobs homage that Eddie predicted? :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeB
    The image from the original thread showing the trenchy has gorn missing! Anyone got it?


    john
    Thinking about this again. I was wondering if we could have a engined turned dial/guilloche as a potential alternative to the cold enamel dial if quality of the enamel is not guaranteed. I love my new guilloche dial watch and I think it could fit the style of the trench watch as well.

    A few examples:





    Well, maybe it does not make sense, but at least I have bumped the trench :mrgreen:

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by angeche
    Thinking about this again. I was wondering if we could have a engined turned dial/guilloche as a potential alternative to the cold enamel dial if quality of the enamel is not guaranteed. I love my new guilloche dial watch and I think it could fit the style of the trench watch as well.
    Sorry to disagree José,

    I love guilloche dials but then it wouldn't be a trench watch anymore, so something very close to the PRS19-2 pic is what it should be.....

    (So Eddie, any sketches on napkins for this one? :wink: I know... rethorical question.... )

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    Re: PRS-19 Trench Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeroen
    Quote Originally Posted by angeche
    Thinking about this again. I was wondering if we could have a engined turned dial/guilloche as a potential alternative to the cold enamel dial if quality of the enamel is not guaranteed. I love my new guilloche dial watch and I think it could fit the style of the trench watch as well.
    Sorry to disagree José,

    I love guilloche dials but then it wouldn't be a trench watch anymore, so something very close to the PRS19-2 pic is what it should be.....

    (So Eddie, any sketches on napkins for this one? :wink: I know... rethorical question.... )
    I have a full technical drawing for this one somewhere.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    You're the most evil man I know Eddie.

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