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    Another what Swiss watch thread, the REAL first world problem

    After recently inheriting a PPN, I'm struggling to find a "back-up" less expensive Swiss watch, or rather, a Swiss watch from a manufacturer i have not enjoyed before.

    I'm struggling as I've been through a few, and multiple times. In no specific order: humble brag, humble brag :)

    Of course, Rolex, Submariner-Date, Explorer-39, Explorer II, Yachtmaster, Daytona, DJ
    Audemars Piguet, Royal Oak chrono
    Vacheron Constantin, Overseas chrono
    Tag Heuer, Monaco, Aquaracer, F1
    Omega, Speedmaster, PO
    Cartier, Santos
    Longines, Flagship chrono
    Breitling, Blackbird
    Bvlgari, Scuba Pro chrono
    Rado, Ceramica
    IWC, Ingenieur
    Zenith, Chronomaster moonphase triple date
    Panerai, 512, 523, 282
    Bell & Ross, Type Demineur
    Swatch, Irony (can't remember, but 5 variants)

    I really can't think of what next. Admittedly sunshine and lunchtime beers aren't helping

    Suggestions?

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    Why does it have to be Swiss? Isn’t it time for a little adventure?

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    You seem to have gone through all the big conglomerate owned watchmakers so why not support one of the more independent companies? Chopard, Oris and, of course, Titoni spring to mind.

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    ^^^^^^

    Thanks Lampoc, forgot about Chopard, Oris not so keen on designs, Titoni? I've not heard of them, so I'll check them out

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    Why does it have to be Swiss? Isn’t it time for a little adventure?
    Won't touch German, and have "done" Japanese too, "progressed" to the Swiss, what / who else would you suggest?

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    What’s wrong with German stuff like ALS? Or do you simply dislike German goods? It’s difficult because you have already had such a huge range of very fine watches.
    How about Moser?

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    Go for a Seiko Prospex or Pressage. Doesn't have to be Swiss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunya View Post
    ^^^^^^

    Thanks Lampoc, forgot about Chopard, Oris not so keen on designs, Titoni? I've not heard of them, so I'll check them out
    You're welcome. I'm not at all biased but here's one of the many times I've mentioned my favourite watch brand: https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...oni-Collection

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Go for a Seiko Prospex or Pressage. Doesn't have to be Swiss.
    Read post #5
    Last edited by nunya; 23rd May 2019 at 15:34.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    What’s wrong with German stuff like ALS? Or do you simply dislike German goods? It’s difficult because you have already had such a huge range of very fine watches.
    How about Moser?
    Nothing wrong with german stuff, ALS make some nice pieces, but I won't buy german. And thank you, I have been fortunate, hence the ask for suggestions
    Last edited by nunya; 23rd May 2019 at 15:33.

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    id echo moser. pioneer centre seconds in steel.

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    You’ve had most high end brands so how about an Elliott Brown Holton. Cheap and cheerful interlude!

    https://www.elliotbrownwatches.com/holton/101-001-n02
    Last edited by oldoakknives; 23rd May 2019 at 17:10.

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    Blancpain??? Some new/nice releases this year!!

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    Depends how much you want to spend and what style you want.
    Titoni are still independent I believe
    Eberhard do nice models and tend to be appreciated in the Italian market.
    Certina tough as nails and great crowns their Chrono Divers are brilliant looking models
    Hamilton - just bought out a beautiful Panda Dial
    Tissot - why not try one of their 70hr movements
    Then of course you’ve got the higher end
    Chopard
    Blancpain
    Breguet

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    Tudor?

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    Its another vote for Moser Pioneer from me.

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    Moser, breitling SOH, Grand Seiko, Ulysee Nardin, timefactors lots of options.


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    Not sure if the phrase 'done Japanese' means you've simply owned a GS Snowflake or you've tried a whole range of stuff. I'd recommend some of the higher level GS stuff or of you want to go super high end maybe Credor?

    For Swiss stuff or European at least Moser as suggested before, Kari Voutilainen, Christiaan van der Klauw to name a few. There's a belting Breguet Marine on SC currently btw

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    Hi all, and thank you for the ideas.

    Off to check out Moser, Breguet, Blancpain, Chopard, Tissot. It might take a while.............

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    The Breguet type 20 is a lovely Chrono btw and personally I think it looks better on the brown leather strap than the bracelet. Second hand prices are al over the place so you can pick up a relative bargain.

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    Blancpain was my immediate thought (mostly because I’d love a Fifty Fathoms...).

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    This is going to sound crazy but how about waiting until you see something then making up your own mind?! I can’t for the life of me understand why people ask questions like this on forums. No offence intended, just can’t actually get my head round it.

    You’ve got the internet. You obviously know lots of watch brands. What’s the problem?! I mean what you’ve posted is basically “I want a watch, which should I get”. Do you choose your own clothes?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ped View Post
    This is going to sound crazy but how about waiting until you see something then making up your own mind?! I can’t for the life of me understand why people ask questions like this on forums. No offence intended, just can’t actually get my head round it.

    You’ve got the internet. You obviously know lots of watch brands. What’s the problem?! I mean what you’ve posted is basically “I want a watch, which should I get”. Do you choose your own clothes?!
    Because sometimes, a suggestion from somebody else might set of a spark off inspiration?
    Last edited by Dave O'Sullivan; 24th May 2019 at 22:51.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave O'Sullivan View Post
    Because sometimes, a suggestion from somebody else might set of a spark off inspiration?
    Maybe I just want more money than I know what to do with, too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ped View Post
    Maybe I just want more money than I know what to do with, too...
    Guess so!
    Enjoy the rest of your evening.

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    Cheers 🍻

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    Parmigiani ?

    Bell & Ross 123 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave O'Sullivan View Post
    Because sometimes, a suggestion from somebody else might set of a spark off inspiration?
    That’s exactly it. I was looking for just that, inspiration.

    Apart from a couple of exceptions, I’ve always tried to have different watches from different makers. I don’t like the idea of yet another Rolex, Omega or Breitling etc. Nothing against them, simply I’ve been there, done that.

    And thanks to some of the membership I have a few avenues to look down. In fact I think I’ve already found the one. Well, the one for now anyway, you know how it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGJG View Post
    Parmigiani ?

    Bell & Ross 123 ?
    Parmigiani, checked them out, not to my taste

    B&R, all ready had one

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    Quote Originally Posted by ped View Post
    This is going to sound crazy but how about waiting until you see something then making up your own mind?! I can’t for the life of me understand why people ask questions like this on forums. No offence intended, just can’t actually get my head round it.

    You’ve got the internet. You obviously know lots of watch brands. What’s the problem?! I mean what you’ve posted is basically “I want a watch, which should I get”. Do you choose your own clothes?!
    Well not really, in fact not at all.

    Set my stall out, this what I’ve had, this is what I’ve currently got, need inspiration with in budget.

    If posts like this upset up so much, don’t read them, and there’s no need for derogatory comments either.

    But, out of courtesy to answer your question. No, I do not choose my own clothes, or shop for them. That’s what a stylist and personal shopper are for.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by ped View Post
    Maybe I just want more money than I know what to do with, too...
    Go earn it then.

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    OK sorry. Apparently got the wrong end of the (probably diamond encrusted) stick...

    I just think you could possibly look a little less frivolous by telling us a little more about what it is you like and don't like, otherwise it comes across, like you say, as a bit of a humblebrag.

    Anyway, enjoy. Sorry I came across like that, I shouldn’t have posted :)
    Last edited by ped; 25th May 2019 at 13:50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ped View Post
    OK sorry. Apparently got the wrong end of the (probably diamond encrusted) stick...

    I just think you could possibly look a little less frivolous by telling us a little more about what it is you like and don't like, otherwise it comes across, like you say, as a bit of a humblebrag.

    Anyway, enjoy. Sorry I came across like that, I shouldn’t have posted :)
    No worries. The “what watch” without budget or any parameters get my goat too.

    Not a diamond encrusted stick, it’s a solid Pt cane with embedded with Padparadscha sapphires, boy is it heavy!

    Maybe I was a little vague, as mentioned sunshine and beers, are not conducive to straight thought. :)

    As like and don’t like, that’s the issue, hence the post. My tastes vary and as can been seen from my previous watches, the styles are all over the place.

    But having thought about it a little more, I’m looking at something understated, classy, not necessarily a dress watch and preferably on a leather strap. As I don’t need or want another “sports” watch on a bracelet, that’s the PPN’s “job”

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunya View Post
    And thanks to some of the membership I have a few avenues to look down. In fact I think I’ve already found the one. Well, the one for now anyway, you know how it is.
    I'm glad you've finally found the Titoni of your dreams. Seriously though - give us a few clues!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunya View Post
    Hi all, and thank you for the ideas.

    Off to check out Moser, Breguet, Blancpain, Chopard, Tissot. It might take a while.............
    Also Ulysse Nardin, Concord, Corum, Ebel, Linde Werdelin... and Patek ofc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunya View Post
    Parmigiani, checked them out, not to my taste
    Fair enough, they’re certainly out there though I really like the Toric Chronometer as something a bit different.

    Quote Originally Posted by nunya View Post
    B&R, all ready had one
    I have the Type Demineur, which you mention you had, and would note that the legacy Sinn B&Rs (such as the Demineur) are a very different beast from the Chatelain B&Rs (such as the 123)... might be worth keeping them in mind. Lots of configurations including various precious metals.

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    Maybe a Chronoswiss ... ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by nunya View Post
    No worries. The “what watch” without budget or any parameters get my goat too.

    Not a diamond encrusted stick, it’s a solid Pt cane with embedded with Padparadscha sapphires, boy is it heavy!

    Maybe I was a little vague, as mentioned sunshine and beers, are not conducive to straight thought. :)

    As like and don’t like, that’s the issue, hence the post. My tastes vary and as can been seen from my previous watches, the styles are all over the place.

    But having thought about it a little more, I’m looking at something understated, classy, not necessarily a dress watch and preferably on a leather strap. As I don’t need or want another “sports” watch on a bracelet, that’s the PPN’s “job”
    No worries, it’s not the worst thing you can do after a few beers!!

    How about a JLC, given your history and updated thoughts. Several that may fit the bill. Perhaps they reside in the sort of arena you’re looking at value-wise, too - although they do cover quite a range.

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    Ever tried sekonda


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    Quote Originally Posted by nunya View Post
    No, I do not choose my own clothes, or shop for them. That’s what a stylist and personal shopper are for.
    Well played, Sir. That's what I'm aiming for.


    To the OP, another vote for Blancpain. I went for my first one this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGJG View Post
    Fair enough, they’re certainly out there though I really like the Toric Chronometer as something a bit different.



    I have the Type Demineur, which you mention you had, and would note that the legacy Sinn B&Rs (such as the Demineur) are a very different beast from the Chatelain B&Rs (such as the 123)... might be worth keeping them in mind. Lots of configurations including various precious metals.
    Fair point, but as mentioned, I try to not go back to a manufacturer I’ve already had, unless of course it’s something that really catches my attention

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby View Post
    Ever tried sekonda


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    Ha, ha, and yes, I had a Chavitimer until the strap and watch itself disintegrated in under a year.

    It was absolute rubbish

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    Quote Originally Posted by jukeboxs View Post
    Well played, Sir. That's what I'm aiming for.


    To the OP, another vote for Blancpain. I went for my first one this week.
    Yes Whitebread is a front runner. Some lovey designs there and history

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunya View Post
    Fair point, but as mentioned, I try to not go back to a manufacturer I’ve already had, unless of course it’s something that really catches my attention
    That’s understandable. Lots that’s very different from the Demineur though...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuki View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JGJG View Post
    123 Geneva...


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    ^^^^^^

    Not so keenon the strap to watch head gap, or the domed crystal. I had a Monaco, raised square plexiglass, I used to catch it on everything.
    Last edited by nunya; 26th May 2019 at 19:22. Reason: Spelink

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    One of my keepers is a 1970s Edox - ETA movement and very well finished. Bought here serviced for 125gbp. Maybe search out some of the older examples of Swiss quality?

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