eBay: "Sell for £1 max" deal.... is there a catch?

[john_coburg]

Afternoon all,
I see this is as a good opportunity to offload a few pieces without paying the hefty 10% fee (although you still pay the c. 3.4% paypal fee...).
But i just wanted to double check i'm not missing anything. eBay have a habit of being sneaky after all.
It says it "runs until 6 May". But it doesn't make clear that the item in question needs to simpy be listed, or actually needs to SELL by 6 May to qualify for the said discount...does anyone happen to know for sure?

Start Date * End Date
£1 max final value fee on up to 100 listings and no insertion fees Learn More - Sell for £1 max! - opens in new window or tab 04-May-2019 14:00:56
06-May-2019 23:59:59

[Kingstepper]

No catch, just list before (end) Monday.

Item must sell within the first listing period

They have the same offer every few weeks.

[wjkerfoot]

There is no catch but if your item does not sell then do not relist it as it will incur the full final selling fee.

Don’t forget to sign in & accept the deal before you list anything.

These deals seem to be offered almost every 2 or 3 weeks.


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[Dave+63]

It’s easy; sign up for the deal and then anything you list will have a maximum selling fee of £1 as long as it sells within the listing period. If it doesn’t sell within 30 days, it automatically realists until cancelled, at which time the fee reverts to 10% (subject to fee limits).

As you mentioned, there’s still the PayPal fees to pay and a 10% fee on the postage costs. I just factor the postage cost in to the listing and offer free delivery.

[David_D]

Afternoon all,
I see this is as a good opportunity to offload a few pieces without paying the hefty 10% fee (although you still pay the c. 3.4% paypal fee...).
But i just wanted to double check i'm not missing anything. eBay have a habit of being sneaky after all.
It says it "runs until 6 May". But it doesn't make clear that the item in question needs to simpy be listed, or actually needs to SELL by 6 May to qualify for the said discount...does anyone happen to know for sure?

Start Date * End Date
£1 max final value fee on up to 100 listings and no insertion fees Learn More - Sell for £1 max! - opens in new window or tab 04-May-2019 14:00:56
06-May-2019 23:59:59

Pretty sure that the dates refer to when the listing is made (or goes live?).

However, the conditions say "Item must sell within the first listing period" which isn't absolutely clear to me, as a very occasional seller.

[wjkerfoot]

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However, the conditions say "Item must sell within the first listing period" which isn't absolutely clear to me, as a very occasional seller.

Relisting will incur the full final value fee, but if you create a completely new listing when another £1 offer appears you will only pay the £1 max.


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[Dave+63]

No catch. Just list the item over the weekend and you’ll only pay £1 fee to eBay. You obviously pay PayPal fees on top but it’s still worth it IMO.


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Relisting will incur the full final value fee, but if you create a completely new listing when another £1 offer appears you will only pay the £1 max.


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Plus ten percent of your postage charge!!

[wjkerfoot]

Plus ten percent of your postage charge!!

Agreed but just factor that into your shipping price at listing time


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[Dave+63]

Agreed but just factor that into your shipping price at listing time


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My point being that if you add a postage cost, you’ll end up paying more than the £1 max whereas, if you add your postage to the selling price and then offer free postage, you’ll still only pay the £1.

[abbs]

Seems to be a quite regular thing for Ebay,especially over Bank Holidays.

Was even better when they had the sitewide 10/15/20% off purchases.Maybe competition with other auction sites has had something to do with it?Its a massive market share they have but lately found it an expensive way to sell when you factor the fees in.

[john_coburg]

Pretty sure that the dates refer to when the listing is made (or goes live?).

However, the conditions say "Item must sell within the first listing period" which isn't absolutely clear to me, as a very occasional seller.

Yes, i saw that. I guess referring to 'buy it now' items that sit on there months on end don't count (unless they sell in the first sitting)
It's pretty unclear when actually listing an item that the offer is even 'switched on' - no confirmation during listing or even after that it's actually activated. A bit unsettling.

[mtagrant]

Yes, i saw that. I guess referring to 'buy it now' items that sit on there months on end don't count (unless they sell in the first sitting)
It's pretty unclear when actually listing an item that the offer is even 'switched on' - no confirmation during listing or even after that it's actually activated. A bit unsettling.

It doesn’t need to sell within the period - that is clear in the terms and conditions. However it also says can’t be auto relisted or through good ‘till cancelled. Can’t see an option for a buy it now with a defined end period

[Dave+63]

It doesn’t need to sell within the period - that is clear in the terms and conditions. However it also says can’t be auto relisted or through good ‘till cancelled. Can’t see an option for a buy it now with a defined end period

I’ve just read the terms and conditions. You can sell with auto relist and good til cancelled, it’s listings that you’ve already got live which renew during the period that are ineligible.

[MrGrumpy]

Also have a check that your item is included in this offer - they have a tendency to advertise 'Sell your items for free' or something in big letters, then you only later realise that certain sorts of items aren't included - invariably what you are selling, and no, they don't tell you until they bill you for the fees!

[optix]

Yes, i saw that. I guess referring to 'buy it now' items that sit on there months on end don't count (unless they sell in the first sitting)
It's pretty unclear when actually listing an item that the offer is even 'switched on' - no confirmation during listing or even after that it's actually activated. A bit unsettling.

Once you accept the offer on your account the listing's made within the period will have the £1 max against it.

I've used it several times over the last year for non watch sales with no problem.


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[Deeez Nuuutz]

No catch. Just list the item over the weekend and you’ll only pay £1 fee to eBay. You obviously pay PayPal fees on top but it’s still worth it IMO.


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[Wallasey Runner]

I've listed a few things and yes all you are charged is £1 and nothing on the postage. PayPal take their pound of flesh which is how this offer makes money for e-bay.

It's also good if you get a non paying bidder as your max loss is £1 and you can claim that back if you can be bothered.

I never relist, just wait for the next £1 offer, cancel the old listings and enter them again as though they are fresh listings.

[PhilipK]

PayPal take their pound of flesh which is how this offer makes money for e-bay.

How does PayPal charging their fees make money for eBay???

[wjkerfoot]

How does PayPal charging their fees make money for eBay???

It doesn’t, they are separate companies and at the end of their current agreement in 2020 eBay will no longer use PayPal as its back-end payment processor, they have signed a new long term agreement with Adyen an Amsterdam based company.


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[Kingstepper]

It doesn’t, they are separate companies and at the end of their current agreement in 2020 eBay will no longer use PayPal as its back-end payment processor, they have signed a new long term agreement with Adyen an Amsterdam based company.


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That's interesting, do you know much about them - what will that mean for eBay users, will we need an account with them and how do their fees compare?

[wjkerfoot]

That's interesting, do you know much about them - what will that mean for eBay users, will we need an account with them and how do their fees compare?

Apparently eBay customers will pay less, have a look here.

https://www.vox.com/2018/1/31/169572...ents-agreement


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[Kidsteruk]

I think ebay and PayPal have separated their business arrangements now, but they still screw on the fees

I've listed a few things and yes all you are charged is £1 and nothing on the postage. PayPal take their pound of flesh which is how this offer makes money for e-bay.

It's also good if you get a non paying bidder as your max loss is £1 and you can claim that back if you can be bothered.

I never relist, just wait for the next £1 offer, cancel the old listings and enter them again as though they are fresh listings.

[nuvolablue]

I have listed a watch on this option but Mine is on a good till sold style listing. Does it not qualify for the max £1 selling fees? I must admit the instructions for listing weren't as clear as they could have been.

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[wjkerfoot]

I have listed a watch on this option but Mine is on a good till sold style listing. Does it not qualify for the max £1 selling fees? I must admit the instructions for listing weren't as clear as they could have been.

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Only if it sells within 30 days, my advice stop it after the 30 days and create a new listing when the next offer appears.

[nuvolablue]

Only if it sells within 30 days, my advice stop it after the 30 days and create a new listing when the next offer appears.

Where do you get the 30 day limit from? I couldn't see it anywhere in their T&Cs?
I understand that all fixed price listings are now on the good till cancelled Duration.

"From 1 April 2019, we're taking further steps to simplify the shopping experience across all eBay sites. The only listing duration for all fixed price listings for both Business and Private sellers will be Good 'Til Cancelled."

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[wjkerfoot]

Where do you get the 30 day limit from? I couldn't see it anywhere in their T&Cs?
I understand that all fixed price listings are now on the good till cancelled Duration.

"From 1 April 2019, we're taking further steps to simplify the shopping experience across all eBay sites. The only listing duration for all fixed price listings for both Business and Private sellers will be Good 'Til Cancelled."

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Good question, obviously fixed price was always a maximum of 30 days & now good ‘til cancelled. I wonder if they still consider 30 days ‘the first listing period’.

Another thing to bear in mind is that second chance offers don’t qualify for the £1 deal.

[Dave+63]

Good question, obviously fixed price was always a maximum of 30 days & now good ‘til cancelled. I wonder if they still consider 30 days ‘the first listing period’.

Another thing to bear in mind is that second chance offers don’t qualify for the £1 deal.

If you list an item as good til cancelled, it shows as a thirty day listing and counts down as usual but automatically relists at the end of the thirty days.

[Wallasey Runner]

Most sellers are wise to the £1 deals and wait for them to appear. I did notice over the last week or so that the listings have become a bit stale with very little new stuff being added and the heavily over priced stuff just sitting there.

With so many people at home and presumably with additional time on their hands (both to sell and buy) and RM still working, I thought e-bay might have seen that as an opportunity to encourage people to list more items.

The listings that I look at on a regular basis are now starting to look like the toilet roll section of a supermarket during the panic buying spree.

[Kidsteruk]

I use this a lot at the minute.

As said already, the only watchouts are wheen you list as a fixed price, the listing will roll on for a further 30 days if the item hasn't sold, but not at the £1 selling fee rate.

Also PayPal will still stick it to you on fees.

Not sure how long eBay will keep this particular deal mechanic going, so fill your boots with listing while you can.

[Coronet king]

Checked WTB first but nothing listed so decided to take a chance and list a speedy Tuesday using the £1 offer, but just checked this thread as the terms for good till cancelled aren't very clear. Obviously TZ discount applies if anybody is interested.

[IMMY77]

I listed an item in January using the £1 fee offer. It was listed as good till cancelled, and finally sold last week. The fee was £1. I made various amendments during that time, mainly to the buy it now price.

[Kingstepper]

I listed an item in January using the £1 fee offer. It was listed as good till cancelled, and finally sold last week. The fee was £1. I made various amendments during that time, mainly to the buy it now price.

Seems at odds with what’s been said on here previously (relisting after 30 days will incur usual fees).

[PeaTines]

eBay charge a percentage listing fee on an “auction format” listing if you specify a reserve price. I find it is better to use a “fixed price” listing and just invite offers. That type of listing can run for a long time without needing to relist and the only fee will be the £1 final value (plus any PayPal charges)

[IMMY77]

Seems at odds with what’s been said on here previously (relisting after 30 days will incur usual fees).

It didn’t relist after 30 days. It wouldn’t give me the option to chose a shorter listing on buy it now, so it stayed listed until it sold.

[john_coburg]

Coming back to this topic, after a few successful sales for £1 last time around... i attempted to list another one under a subsequent £1 offer, but didn't have time to take photos before it expired, so thought i could list it without photos (before the offer expired) and just amend the listing in a few days time once i had photos ready. BUT...i thought i'd just check in with eBay to check that would be ok, before going ahead... and lo and behold, it seems any amendment to a listing (such as adding photos) nullifies the offer. See the transcript below.

05:10:24 UTC
I don't have photos yet, but will do in 2/3days, so I wanted to check the £1 offer would still apply
05:10:33 UTC Santos
Also let me share that under £1 Max Sell when we revise the listing there is a possibility that the item may get out of £1 Max Sell.
05:11:12 UTC
oh - does 'revising' include adding photos?
05:11:48 UTC Santos
Any addition to the listing which is once listed will be considered as revision.
05:12:13 UTC
are you sure i will lose the status of special offer? that seems harsh!
05:13:33 UTC Santos
I am sorry but this is the Terms & Conditions of the promotion that the revision makes the listing opt out of the £1 Max Sell.
05:13:52 UTC
And what if it is was an auction? does that change things?
05:14:17 UTC Santos
The case is same in both the format.
05:14:52 UTC
okay, thank you.

i know the guy works for eBay, but do we think this is correct...?! and of course i should have asked at the time, but do we think 'amendments' include price changes for Buy-it-now listings? i suddenly got really worried about this and that any move in BIN price could scupper the £1 max sales fee offer of my listings, without warning. i didn't make any changes last time, so have no data points...
has anyone changed a listing like this (e.g. adding photos/changing price) and seen the offer fall away as a result?

[wjkerfoot]

Coming back to this topic, after a few successful sales for £1 last time around... i attempted to list another one under a subsequent £1 offer, but didn't have time to take photos before it expired, so thought i could list it without photos (before the offer expired) and just amend the listing in a few days time once i had photos ready. BUT...i thought i'd just check in with eBay to check that would be ok, before going ahead... and lo and behold, it seems any amendment to a listing (such as adding photos) nullifies the offer. See the transcript below.

05:10:24 UTC
I don't have photos yet, but will do in 2/3days, so I wanted to check the £1 offer would still apply
05:10:33 UTC Santos
Also let me share that under £1 Max Sell when we revise the listing there is a possibility that the item may get out of £1 Max Sell.
05:11:12 UTC
oh - does 'revising' include adding photos?
05:11:48 UTC Santos
Any addition to the listing which is once listed will be considered as revision.
05:12:13 UTC
are you sure i will lose the status of special offer? that seems harsh!
05:13:33 UTC Santos
I am sorry but this is the Terms & Conditions of the promotion that the revision makes the listing opt out of the £1 Max Sell.
05:13:52 UTC
And what if it is was an auction? does that change things?
05:14:17 UTC Santos
The case is same in both the format.
05:14:52 UTC
okay, thank you.

i know the guy works for eBay, but do we think this is correct...?! and of course i should have asked at the time, but do we think 'amendments' include price changes for Buy-it-now listings? i suddenly got really worried about this and that any move in BIN price could scupper the £1 max sales fee offer of my listings, without warning. i didn't make any changes last time, so have no data points...
has anyone changed a listing like this (e.g. adding photos/changing price) and seen the offer fall away as a result?

See post #42


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[Merkaholic]

If you put reserve price on the listing it will charge you a hefty listing fee...... Eg 5k will cost £150, regardless of the £1 final value offer.

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[size11s]

There is no catch, I get the offer every couple of weeks and wouldn't dream of listing anything of any genuine value outside of the offer, that would be throwing money away.

[33JS]

Just sold a Bulova Sea King. £1 fee on invoice... All good.

[Buster73]

I refuse to accept PayPal now , direct payment only.

[Derivative]

I refuse to accept PayPal now , direct payment only.

Is this possible with eBay? I thought you had no choice but to accept and use PayPal.

[stefmcd]

Is this possible with eBay? I thought you had no choice but to accept and use PayPal.

Pretty sure you can offer cash on collection and credit card payment.

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[Dave+63]

Pretty sure you can offer cash on collection and credit card payment.

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I think that you can offer other payments but you can’t not offer PayPal.

I’ve just sold an item which I listed on Saturday after signing up for the £1 deal and have been charged over £30. I did reduce the price by £25 so maybe they’re getting stricter!

[Buster73]

Is this possible with eBay? I thought you had no choice but to accept and use PayPal.

Just sold a bike in April for over £400 , made it clear in the description that no PayPal would be accepted.

The buyer emailed asking for my address and bank details, payment was made within the hour , funnily enough he just collected it last week.

I’ve got two other items for sale with the same condition applied , clearly they’re pushing everyone down the PayPal route but it’s not compulsory.

[PhilipK]

I’ve got two other items for sale with the same condition applied , clearly they’re pushing everyone down the PayPal route but it’s not compulsory.

You have to offer PayPal as a payment method, and there's nothing you can do to stop a Buyer from paying with PayPal.

Your only option (if they do so) is to refund them, but you then risk negative feedback and a Non-Performing Seller strike on your account.

[wjkerfoot]

Just for information.
I have noticed in the offer T’s & C’s that you can only list an item once at £1, if it doesn’t sell you will be charged the full FV fee if it’s listed again even if a £1 offer is in force.


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[lostp]

Just for information.
I have noticed in the offer T’s & C’s that you can only list an item once at £1, if it doesn’t sell you will be charged the full FV fee if it’s listed again even if a £1 offer is in force.


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That’s only if you relist the exact same advert after the first one expires without selling.


You can relist the same item on a different offer if you create the ad from scratch

[wjkerfoot]

That’s only if you relist the exact same advert after the first one expires without selling.


You can relist the same item on a different offer if you create the ad from scratch

Apparently not, it states if the same item is listed again then full fees will apply, I think this has changed recently


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[Derivative]

Apparently not, it states if the same item is listed again then full fees will apply, I think this has changed recently


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This is something I didn’t know, thanks for sharing...

[Derivative]

Thanks all - I will take a closer look at this and make sure I have other payment options available next time I look to sell on eBay. That PP fee really stings!