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    Submariner 14060M - Modern classic

    Just a line to share some pictures of the 14060M submariner.

    Made from 2007 until 2012 so just 5 years which is a short production run compared to such models as the 5513 or 5512.

    It’s different to the 14060 as it has an upgraded movement 3130, which has several major evolutions compared to the previous sub.

    The four lines of text is also a good reminder of the 5512.

    All in all it’s a good candidate for the next vintage Sub after the mythical 5513.




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    As long as they don't have the Rolex engraved rehaut, i agree fully. Cracking watch

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    This one has it unfortunately. Can’t remember what year they started doing that. 2007 no?

    This one still have serial numbers that you can date :)


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    There lovely looking watches, I have the (older) 14060 from 1996, yes it’s the older movement but keeps to less than 1sec a day when worn, perfect size in diameter and thickness too, are we using the term classic or vintage!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    There lovely looking watches, I have the (older) 14060 from 1996, yes it’s the older movement but keeps to less than 1sec a day when worn, perfect size in diameter and thickness too, are we using the term classic or vintage!!

    I love that 2 liners 14060M.
    I wished Rolex continued that case and upgraded the rest of the watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxia View Post
    This one has it unfortunately. Can’t remember what year they started doing that. 2007 no?

    This one still have serial numbers that you can date :)


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    It's still a cracking watch mate, enjoy ;)

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    uWhat was upgraded about the movement? I know the 14010M was COSC certified, but did Rolex really do anything different? Poising the balance to a higher standard is the obvious one, but that’s hardly a modification!

    I owned one for a while, I couldn’t get it to fit nicely on my square 6.75” wrist, couldn’t get the 6 side short enough.

    Unless I’m mistaken I think they all have the engraved rehaut, which won’t suit some folks. Personally I don’t see why they should be more desirable than the earlier version, the COSC rating doesn’t mean much in my eyes, but the Rolex sports market is anything but logical and folks will look fir any little detail to make a fuss over.

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    Both classics, in my eyes.

    Similarly- with the non-date version, which appears an even ‘cleaner’ design.

    These models are the newest I would ever wear. (But not with the engraved rehaut)

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    The 14060M started in 1998 with the 3130 movement. These were two-liners. It was the COSC 4-liner that started in 2007.

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    The aluminium bezels on these older subs look so much better to me than the ceramic ones used now. Makes a huge difference.

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    The movement was the same between the two line and four line, just that COSC certification hadn't been confirmed then. The four liners state COSC, but with the same movement as in the two line.

    Edit: Fabulous looking watch. Upgrade this with glidelock, and it might be the definitive sub. Altohugh the latest model has some great upgrades, I just can't get with the square lugs and ceramic bezel.

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    Still prefer the mythical 5513.


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    Nice, but tbh a bit bland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobdog View Post
    Still prefer the mythical 5513.

    Now THAT is lovely.

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by bobdog View Post
    Still prefer the mythical 5513.


    I like that a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCFastybloke View Post
    I like that a lot
    Magnificent well done!


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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    Unless I’m mistaken I think they all have the engraved rehaut, which won’t suit some folks
    In my opinion the early 14060m are the ones to have, two line dial, no engraved rehaut, 3130 movement.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobdog View Post
    Still prefer the mythical 5513.

    Think you stole the show with that one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxia View Post
    Just a line to share some pictures of the 14060M submariner.

    Made from 2007 until 2012 so just 5 years which is a short production run compared to such models as the 5513 or 5512.

    It’s different to the 14060 as it has an upgraded movement 3130, which has several major evolutions compared to the previous sub.

    The four lines of text is also a good reminder of the 5512.

    All in all it’s a good candidate for the next vintage Sub after the mythical 5513.




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    Fits your wrist really nicely. Congrats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyman View Post
    Nice, but tbh a bit bland.

    Is that a pivotal statement, identifying the difference between:

    ”I bought a classic model, from an iconic make

    from

    ‘I bought a badge from a “brand which identifies me as successful ” ........’

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackal View Post
    Is that a pivotal statement, identifying the difference between:

    ”I bought a classic model, from an iconic make

    from

    ‘I bought a badge from a “brand which identifies me as successful ” ........’
    From my pov, Subs are, regardless of age, a dull design. I much prefer vintage GMTs.

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    I have a soft spot for these. I bought a 14060M from this forum over 10 years ago now. A nice two-liner and of course no engraving on the rehaut. It still remains unpolished and very rarely worn. Nothing I’d want to change about this model.


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    Submariner 14060M - Modern classic

    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    What was upgraded about the movement? I know the 14010M was COSC certified
    The earlier ‘two line’ incarnations weren’t COSC certified.

    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    but did Rolex really do anything different? Poising the balance to a higher standard is the obvious one, but that’s hardly a modification!
    The modifications were a full balance bridge, a larger balance wheel and a breguet overcoil.

    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    Unless I’m mistaken I think they all have the engraved rehaut.
    Again, the engraved rehaut was something that was introduced in the later years of this model.

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    Truly gorgeous Rolex!

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    Thank you!


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    Quote Originally Posted by colin t View Post
    I have a soft spot for these. I bought a 14060M from this forum over 10 years ago now. A nice two-liner and of course no engraving on the rehaut. It still remains unpolished and very rarely worn. Nothing I’d want to change about this model.

    It's simply stunning.

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    2 line no date is as clean as your going to get on a Sub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colin t View Post
    The earlier ‘two line’ incarnations weren’t COSC certified.



    The modifications were a full balance bridge, a larger balance wheel and a breguet overcoil.


    Again, the engraved rehaut was something that was introduced in the later years of this model.

    Plus on the last 2 years 2010/12 Parachrom Blu hairspring I believe ( well mine has one in from 12) despite the Rolex Rolex on the rehaut I still love mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colin t View Post
    I have a soft spot for these. I bought a 14060M from this forum over 10 years ago now. A nice two-liner and of course no engraving on the rehaut. It still remains unpolished and very rarely worn. Nothing I’d want to change about this model.

    If you like it, wear the hell out of it. Enjoy using it, not looking at it. It's a nice watch.

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    Totally agree OP. It's a modern classic and the last of the old school sports Rolex. I bought mine brand new from an AD back in 2011 for a discounted £3600 and its probably my best watch buy ever.

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    It’s a beauty but they’ll never reach the heights of the subs without metal hour markers (like the 5513 above). That’s where it’s at for me aesthetically. Just hope Tudor get round to the same setup in the near future, seeing the dial on that new contraption at Basel gives me hope.

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    Here is mine, still hasn’t grown on me but I keep it for the sake of the collection


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    The 14060 is one of my favourites.Might have to wear it more than I have since buying it!.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangelos View Post


    Here is mine, still hasn’t matured in me but I keep it for the sake of the collection


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    Nice. What year is yours from?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxia View Post
    Nice. What year is yours from?


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    Is from 2008 if I remember well


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    The 4 liner is my favourite Submariner after ty he 16610LV. Just a great watch, with the right balance of modern and old for my liking.

    I wouldn't swap one for a 5513, but I'm sure I'm in a minority.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegamanic View Post
    The 4 liner is my favourite Submariner after ty he 16610LV. Just a great watch, with the right balance of modern and old for my liking.

    I wouldn't swap one for a 5513, but I'm sure I'm in a minority.

    You wouldn’t swap one for a 5513? You are one crazy person!
    Still 4 lines vs 2 lines - still not convinced which is best!?



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    My favourite of the more modern Subs. Cracking watch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxia View Post
    ...........Still 4 lines vs 2 lines - still not convinced which is best!?



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    I prefer the two liner as it makes for a simpler dial

    Still, I would say that as that’s the one I have!

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    I love mine. Rattley bracelet included!

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    I definitely have to have a Submariner soon, and the 14060m seems to be the one I will have. Just couldn’t be doing with the exaggerated shoulders on the six digits.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    The 4 lines COSC just has 5 years of production though compared to the 2 line, which is 12 i believe...

    Also interesting i guess is the 14060M non-cosc between 2002-2007 vs the 14060M cosc from 2007-12.

    (hope i got my dates correct - they are from borrowed sources...)




    Quote Originally Posted by JeremyO View Post
    I prefer the two liner as it makes for a simpler dial

    Still, I would say that as that’s the one I have!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowdon View Post
    I love mine. Rattley bracelet included!
    Yes, what posessed Rolex - the hollow folded end links on their sports models of that era are just horrid. Has anyone found a better end link for that bracelet? I would love to change them as it is the only thing I dislike about the watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Wolff View Post
    Yes, what posessed Rolex - the hollow folded end links on their sports models of that era are just horrid. Has anyone found a better end link for that bracelet? I would love to change them as it is the only thing I dislike about the watch.
    I read about the hollow end links and rattling bracelet prior to buying my 14060 and I have to be honest and say I don’t find any of those assumptions on my watch.

    The HEL’s look good, keep the weight down and fit extremely well, as for rattling I just don’t get it as I wear my watch so it’s a nice easy fit without being tight or loose, a loose watch will rattle but it will also wear your links out quicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    I read about the hollow end links and rattling bracelet prior to buying my 14060 and I have to be honest and say I don’t find any of those assumptions on my watch.

    The HEL’s look good, keep the weight down and fit extremely well, as for rattling I just don’t get it as I wear my watch so it’s a nice easy fit without being tight or loose, a loose watch will rattle but it will also wear your links out quicker.
    If you have your bracelet adjusted correctly, how can it rattle?
    My 14060M is one of the most comfortable watches I own and I don't recall ever hearing the bracelet rattle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klunk View Post
    My 14060M is one of the most comfortable watches I own and I don't recall ever hearing the bracelet rattle.
    I'm in this camp. I positively love the lightness of the old bracelet on my 16570 Exp-II; although they look a little tinny I find them supremely reliable and comfortable.

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    I have a V serial 14060m which I love, but rarely wear. I suppose the rarely wearing bit is useful for conservation but I prefer the SELS of the 16610.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxia View Post
    You wouldn’t swap one for a 5513? You are one crazy person!
    Still 4 lines vs 2 lines - still not convinced which is best!?



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    I've had a few 5513's over the years - they didn't do anything for me - I could always be tempted by an old lollipop dial, but apart from that there is no attraction. I have tried many vintage Rolex watches over the years and i'm more than happy to stay in my comfort zone of the watches from my youth rather than going completely vintage, so mostly sapphire onwards for me.

    I did have most dial variants of the 14060's at one stage apart from the exotic Comex etc. versions and for me the 4 liner is by far the nicer watch - I currently have a couple and neither is likely to ever be sold during my life time.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    I see what you mean - some 5513s lack magic.

    Have you had a girl metres first 5513? Or a gilt 5512? Would love to try one and I think there is magic to be had there.





    Quote Originally Posted by Omegamanic View Post
    I've had a few 5513's over the years - they didn't do anything for me - I could always be tempted by an old lollipop dial, but apart from that there is no attraction. I have tried many vintage Rolex watches over the years and i'm more than happy to stay in my comfort zone of the watches from my youth rather than going completely vintage, so mostly sapphire onwards for me.

    I did have most dial variants of the 14060's at one stage apart from the exotic Comex etc. versions and for me the 4 liner is by far the nicer watch - I currently have a couple and neither is likely to ever be sold during my life time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxia View Post
    I see what you mean - some 5513s lack magic.

    Have you had a girl metres first 5513? Or a gilt 5512? Would love to try one and I think there is magic to be had there.
    Ime wearing a gilt 5513 as we speak and you are correct in your assessment they are a beautiful model, whether they are worth the money is another matter, you are probably aware a good example with perfect dial(like mine) will set you back north of £20k.

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