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    SOTC - update from a serial flipper

    Just reflecting on things and taking stock.

    After dabbling with watches since my childhood, like many, my buying and selling went into a higher gear when I signed up to TZUK.

    I guess that I could be classified as a serial flipper and my time on here has been characterised by one theme or another. This has included, vintage mechanicals, soviet watches, dress, digital, moon or space watches, no date watches, chronos, pieces under 38, homages, manual winds only, only one watch, only two watches…..and so on. With of course the odd tangential obsession with different kinds of straps thrown in for good measure.

    At each point due in part to limited funds but more, or if I’m honest, due to a number of odd character traits I have sold watches either singularly or in batches as I have moved into the next thing.



    My current rotation: Smiths Everest, CWC RN Diver (quartz) and Seiko SARB017 Alpinist



    The whole thing has gone in fits and starts and more often than not come full circle so that I end up right where I started with a particular grouping of watches.

    At the moment I find myself not really interested in another theme so have been delving back through my old threads to decide on which old favourites to gather round me for the time being. How long this state of affairs will last, I have no way of knowing but why worry about the future – its nice just to enjoy the present.



    Smiths Everest 36



    Well, not exactly an old favourite as it hasn’t been around that long but it does fit in the Zex and other 1016 homages camp. In addition to a TC and other bargain basements homage types I’ve owned perhaps 4 Zex’s. Some I have owned more than once as the have yo-yoed between me and other forum users. Until the 36 Everest the Zex was the closest I’d come to the 1016 which is way out of my reach. But there were a couple of things I just couldn’t get over – the awful legend on the dial, the issue of repeated crown failures and AS new old stock movements appearing to lack lubrication when they arrived. The Everest has none of these issues and is a winner, indeed compared to the Explorer 14270 that I owned for a short while I think that it looks and wears better. Up until last month it had for a while become my only watch. I have enjoyed wearing it on leather and Perlon but it always ends up back on a bracelet as it just seems ‘right’ this way. Initially I wasn’t too impressed with the original bracelet, especially the gigantic clasp so swapped this for a generic tapered oyster style bracelet that I sourced from eBay. When I found that this was an almost perfect fit for my SARB017 I moved it on to that and refitted the original – which I have now got used to and have to say that I am rather happy with!
    It is probably the best watch I’ve ever bought. If I end up selling this one I have no doubt at all I will buy another at some point.





    CWC RN Diver – quartz



    I am pretty certain that this is my third one of these. One I sold and bought back twice. Despite favouring sub 38mm pieces I find that the CWC wears really well and doesn’t seem as overly large as some divers watches I’ve tried. I think that the designed which involves a relatively slim case and smallish dial make it OK for me. I just love the way it looks and the only reason I have sold past ones has been about needing to raise cash rather then it not fitting in with any particular theme. I find a Eulit Perlon an ideal strap for this type of fixed bar watch though the CWC looks great and wears well on its original grey Phoenix NATO. This is a MK1 bought new from Silvermans. I expect that the time is not far off when I won’t be able to afford to repeat this considering the way the retail price keeps rising.




    Seiko SARB 017 Alpinist



    My fourth one of these. I moved the first two on due to the none AR coated flat crystal spoiling the appearance of the beautiful green dial for me. The third I had fitted with an AR double dome sapphire and it became the perfect Alpinist. Again, the need to raise funds to pursue a newly emerging obsession led to me moving this on.
    I’ve had the same double dome crystal fitted to this one - thanks Brendan! It says something about how much I love the dial matched with the gold hands and roman numerals that I am happy to overlook the fact that it has a date window – something that usually I simply can’t live with. The dial really pops out at you from all angles with this crystal fitted – the original only gives you fleeting glimpses of the rich green finish looking rather dull the rest of the time.
    I really like how this wears on this generic oyster bought initially for the Everest.


    After all of these shenanigans it’s still hard to say what my ideal watch is and what direction I spiral off into the future as regards new pieces to buy. I am clearer on the kind of features that I prefer though. Polished / shiny cases look and feel much nicer to me than brushed or matt ones. Now that I have figured out how to size bracelets properly, I love them though still maintain that genuine Perlon is the best strap in the world. I like easy to read dials that have a few other things going on such as discrete numbered bezels – internal or external. I like gold hands and indices.

    I will be interested to see how things go after posting this thread as usually when I post a SOTC it prompts a rapid change of direction and another bout of flipping and buying! The proposed PRS32 chrono looks appealing as does the white dial Everest – depending on which designs make it through to production of course, other than that nothing is calling me specifically at the moment. The time will come though…………….
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    Whatever direction you take in the future Ian, do NOT sell the Everest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    Whatever direction you take in the future Ian, do NOT sell the Everest.
    I second that one. Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by kneadking View Post
    I second that one. Brian
    Pretty certain Ian sold the Everest ages ago

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    Keeping to the fixed lug military theme, I have added this Pulsar Gen2 Chronograph to the mix. This is a NOS one from 2014 which came boxed with papers. Not to be confused with the civilian version which has a different dial design (but is otherwise identical)





    Its very close in size to the RN Diver


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    To give it its proper title: Pulsar RAF Chronograph V657-072R



    39mm x 48mm x 11mm
    20mm lugs
    Full stainless steel case
    Push in crown
    Screw down case back
    Mineral glass crystal

    12hr movement
    Chrono - 60 minute capacity
    Central Chrono seconds
    6H: Chrono minutes / hours
    9H: Running seconds
    12H: Chrono 1/10th seconds
    3H: Date

    The civilian version is the PJN305X and has smaller numerals


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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    Keeping to the fixed lug military theme, I have added this Pulsar Gen2 Chronograph to the mix. This is a NOS one from 2014 which came boxed with papers. Not to be confused with the civilian version which has a different dial design (but is otherwise identical)





    Its very close in size to the RN Diver

    Nice collection and I like the theme

    Where did the Pulsar come from if you don’t mind me asking (happy to move to PM)

    I quite fancy one! Thanks

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    SOTC - update from a serial flipper

    All nice looking watches those and suit my own tastes. Could imagine a nice IWC Pilot ,pre-silly case size,being to your liking though maybe not shiny enough.
    Looking forward to white dial Everest also,with the different clasp of course.


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    Yours has been an interesting journey, I've noticed most of those twists and turns along the way. Some quote drastic shifts at times.

    The CWC RN is my pick from that bunch, but I would say that. Is a watch I'll never let go as it's so versatile and also my no worries holiday watch.

    Keep enjoying, wonder what changes are yet to come.

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    I had intended to take the CWC on holiday the week before last but with everything else going on I completely forgot to change watches! The Everest turned out to be just fine for this purpose as I posted in the Everest update thread:

    Just back from a week long holiday with the Everest being worn everyday and all day. It really is so versatile being equally at home on the beach or in the evening at dinner.

    Submerged in sea water everyday (for 6 hours non stop one day) it performed faultlessly.


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    Do you miss the 14270? Any regrets selling it?

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    Ahh Ian - I bet you miss the linen dial Seamaster... she remains in good hands 👌

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    Do you miss the 14270? Any regrets selling it?
    It was nice to own a Rolex for a while. After a while it didn't feel quite me though and since selling it I haven't missed it at all.

    I much prefer the Everest!
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    Theee nice watches. Enjoy them. Good to see you here after a while.

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    All of those are superb and it goes to show you can have an interesting, varied collection for what some services cost. Lovely stuff and for me the favourite is the Everest 36mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkpw View Post
    ...….it goes to show you can have an interesting, varied collection for what some services cost.....
    A good point!

    All bought new this year.

    Everest - £320
    CWC RN Diver MK1 Quartz - £499
    Seiko Sarb017 Alpinist, with Yokobies double dome sapphire crystal - £485

    Total - £1304

    Update at end of May, the departure of the Alpinist and impending arrival of the Vanguard changes this to

    Everest - £320
    CWC RN - £499
    Vanguard - £765
    Total - £1584
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    Great trio and informative write up thank you. I've often looked at the cwc diver but the retail price puts me off. I currently have a sarb but I think I'd like to replace it with an Everest your pictures have been an influence on this plan

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    I just want to say I really appreciate your SOTC post, @Velorum. Thank you for sharing this with us.

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    A bit of a Perlon reconfiguration

    Last edited by Velorum; 27th May 2019 at 11:20.

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    I am a recent perlon convert - I think it suits the SARB watches very well.

    You have a very decent 3 watch collection right there as well. Don't flip in haste!

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    That's a really nice collection Ian, and covers enough bases to keep you going.............. until the next one............ or two come along
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post


    ...............other than that nothing is calling me specifically at the moment…………….
    That being said, I found this 1980 Fatboy hard to resist the other day

    Last edited by Velorum; 27th May 2019 at 11:20.

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    One of my favourites, good purchase!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetlee View Post
    One of my favourites, good purchase!
    That's was a very quick flip - in order to get the funds together for the new Vanguard. The Alpinist will need to go too as well unfortunately. I would have freed up more cash by moving on the CWC but am trying to hang on to this one.
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    Nice collection !

    Have you got any pics of your Alpinst on that rivetted Oyster bracelet ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 459GMB View Post
    Nice collection !

    Have you got any pics of your Alpinst on that rivetted Oyster bracelet ?
    Thank you

    The only after market bracelet that I have is a standard oyster style


    upload

    I bought it from eBay
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUPERB-ST...EAAOSwVtZZ8LE6

    It fits the Everests solid end links very well and the hollow links that came with it were an excellent fit for the Alpinist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    That's was a very quick flip - in order to get the funds together for the new Vanguard. The Alpinist will need to go too as well unfortunately. I would have freed up more cash by moving on the CWC but am trying to hang on to this one.
    Phew, keep that CWC RN Diver! Haha, you know you'll just buy another if you flip that one.

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    Nice coherent collection, like your style !


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    That’s a lovely trio, I love that seiko I’ve always fancied one of them I really must get round to sorting that out. A lovely write up there and on reflection I find myself proceeding to look at the cwc too


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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    That’s a lovely trio, I love that seiko I’ve always fancied one of them I really must get round to sorting that out. A lovely write up there and on reflection I find myself proceeding to look at the cwc too


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    I want one of those CWC rn diver's now from these pictures!

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    CWC diver far exceeds the others..........IMO that is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by P9CLY View Post
    CWC diver far exceeds the others..........IMO that is.
    I think that you are right.

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    Mr Velorum - you have - apart from myself ;) - the best taste in watches on this forum.

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    Agree I have looked and looked at the cwc and I really like it, doesn’t help there’s a navy diver on sc that’s winking at me


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    Great information thanks.
    Read both the links above.
    Off to look at eBay as I’m not on the mwforum or WUS...

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    Not mine but an identical one:


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    Well, off we ago again as regards lapsing into collecting rather than just a couple to wear...….

    This time a niche within a niche - fixed lug pieces, but only with quartz movements

    Next one will arrive soon, one of the new T20's


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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    Well, off we ago again as regards lapsing into collecting rather than just a couple to wear...….

    This time a niche within a niche - fixed lug pieces, but only with quartz movements

    Next one will arrive soon, one of the new T20's

    I may well be following your lead, Ian. The five year battery life is a bonus.

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    Liking these additions, but can I make a prediction? In three months time only the RN Diver will remain

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    Yes, a good point. I rather like the brushed/matt case and the 60 click bezel is also fine. It's the mineral crystal that I'm getting hooked up on but as I mentioned I'm careful with things so its unlikely to be a major concern. I'll think about it some more.

    Apologies to Velorum for hijacking your thread - but it's your fault for posting such a nice collection!! Thanks!

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    Very nice three amigos there Ian ..

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    Did you sell the Pulsar? Seems like such a good complement to the RN diver. The Lost Boy is nice, though. I’m eager to see what you’ll pick up next!

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    Quote Originally Posted by williemays View Post
    Did you sell the Pulsar? Seems like such a good complement to the RN diver. The Lost Boy is nice, though. I’m eager to see what you’ll pick up next!
    No, I'm wearing it as I type this!

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    Cool pic.

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    Simply stunning! Thanks for sharing


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    There it is!

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    Wear in good health mate


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    Joined today by a Tiger 6263D


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    ….and as I was ordering the above from William I thought at I would pick up another 5508 V6


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