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    A jewellers advice needed please

    I know we have a few jewellers in our midst and I was hoping I may get a bit of advice regarding my wife's engagement ring.

    Its a pretty straight forward diamond solitaire on white gold. She's got a bit tired of the constant rhodium plating to keep it white and has asked if there is anything that can stop the yellowing.

    My thoughts are to change the shank (is that the right word?) for a platinum one. The question is that possible and would it be a massive cost? Would it be easier/cheaper to have a new ring made and use the diamonds?

    Anyone in the know who is happy to advise, I would be grateful.

    Thanks

    Neil
    Last edited by Neil; 24th April 2019 at 10:11.

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    hi,you could contact kevkojak of this forum[not sure thats the correct spelling] he's a very knowlegable professional jeweler and a nice chap..
    Last edited by greasemonkey; 24th April 2019 at 10:32.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greasemonkey View Post
    hi,you could contact kevkojak of this forum, he's a very knowlegable professional jeweler and a nice chap..
    spelling is correct
    Last edited by greasemonkey; 24th April 2019 at 10:33.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greasemonkey View Post
    spelling is correct
    No, it’s jeweller!

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    I had the same problem with my wife’s engagement ring. I ended up having a new platinum copy made and reused the original diamond.

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    My wife is also complaining that her white gold diamond ring is losing its white-ness. Wasn’t something we were made aware of when purchasing but I asked her quite a while ago and was told it’s normal for the white-ness to wash away.

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    I thought platinum was also rhodium coated to make it shiny as platinum is a bit grey on its own. Maybe not as obvious as the yellow gold showing through though?

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    Seems pointless if white gold has to be continuously plated.
    Why even use white gold? Might as well be brass or steel if never seen.

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    It depends on the make up of the gold; some white golds are actually whiter than others and don’t need plating.

    Platinum is naturally white and doesn’t need playing either.

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    Ask your jeweller to make up a new ring and show you the metal beforehand - as above there are several different types.

    We got 18ct unplated white gold. It's a "warm silver" rather than bright silver but doesn't need plating.

    The 9ct white gold they showed us has a distinct yellow tinge and would have needed plating.

    Last edited by Scepticalist; 25th April 2019 at 15:22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    It depends on the make up of the gold; some white golds are actually whiter than others and don’t need plating.

    Platinum is naturally white and doesn’t need playing either.
    Yes if it's similar to Rolex (and other watch) white gold, won't need plating. That other types are used for jewellery seems daft.

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    Rhodium plated white gold is gaudy and looks a bit naff even before the plating (inevitably) wears through. So called white gold is never actually white and the exact colour depends on the particular alloy but certainly many white golds in their unplated state are a pleasing warm grey. Typically more the province of specialist jewellery makers than high street chains but well worth looking into IMHO.

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    Im not going to argue about the "not all white gold needs plating" again - but gold is gold. As in, the colour gold. Shiny yellow. White gold is made by dulling the colour by mixing in white metals. Its always going to need a coating.

    Any chance of a photo of the ring OP? Usually it's a nice easy job to remount in platinum or palladium but it sounds like you're talking about multiple stones (diamond set shoulders?).

    Keeping the head is an option, but is seems silly to have a hard metal shank and soft metal setting - usually it's a safer bet to keep it all uniform.

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    If you don’t want to go to the expense of having one made in Platinum consider having it Palnick plated, it similar to
    Rhodium but lasts much longer before starting to wear off


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    Quote Originally Posted by kevkojak View Post
    Im not going to argue about the "not all white gold needs plating" again - but gold is gold. As in, the colour gold. Shiny yellow. White gold is made by dulling the colour by mixing in white metals. Its always going to need a coating.
    Mrs Draft has a pair of these earrings made by David Ashton. They show pretty clearly the contrast in colour between “white” and yellow gold. While the “white” definitely isn’t white it is attractive. And with respect, plating these earrings would be an act of vandalism.

    https://davidashton.co.uk/product/co...lush-diamonds/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    No, it’s jeweller!
    i stand corrected,i used to spell it your your way but just recently i have seen it spelt with one L several times so thought i had got it wrong all these years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmATeaf View Post
    My wife is also complaining
    My wife is always complaining.
    "A man of little significance"

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    Quote Originally Posted by draftsmann View Post
    Mrs Draft has a pair of these earrings made by David Ashton. They show pretty clearly the contrast in colour between “white” and yellow gold. While the “white” definitely isn’t white it is attractive. And with respect, plating these earrings would be an act of vandalism.

    https://davidashton.co.uk/product/co...lush-diamonds/
    Those are gorgeous. I must avoid pointing them out to my wife!!

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