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    Germany, theft of 58 Watches

    I had a break in 6 months ago, as I identified one of the thieves, I was hoping to find him or my watches...Nothing up till now.
    I heard he has gone underground, or even left the country, as he has been told that I am on the hunt for him. I want this bastard, dead or alive, His name is Khalfaf Delgash, aka Dilo. The masked one is his younger brother, as I have been told.
    Here what I had on Camera...

    https://i.imgur.com/sQ15Jwy.mp4

    Here a list, and I am sorry if some of the Numbers are incorrect.
    1.
    Audemars Piguet Swiss "Royal Oak Jumbo Automatic", No. 50, Weißgold, Werk Nr. 175092, Geh. Nr. B22985-0050, Ref. 344BC, Cal. 2121, 39 mm, circa 1978
    Seltene, schwere, weißgoldene, automatische Genfer Herrenarmbanduhr der "B-Serie" mit Datum. Diese Uhr erhielt im Jahr 2011 bei Audemars Piguet eine Werksrevision.Geh.: 18Kt Weißgold, aufgeschraubter Boden, verschraubte Krone, AP 18Kt Weißgoldarmband mit Faltschließe. Ziffbl.: anthrazit, "Clous de Paris" Dekor, aufgelegte Diamantindizes, Baton-Zeiger. Werk: 21Kt Goldrotoraufzugswerk, rhodiniert, "fausses côtes" Dekoration, 8 Adj., 36 Jewels, Glucydur-Unruh, Stoßsicherung für Unruh und Ankerrad.
    2.
    Royal Oak Jumbo"Audemars Piguet Swiss "Royal Oak Jumbo Automatic" Stahl/Gold automatische Genfer Herrenarmbanduhr der "B-Serie" mit Datum
    3.
    Rolex Submariner 5512 Nr Lt Papiere1693208/5512
    4.
    Rolex Air King 5500 Silber Zifferblatt, Gehäüse Nr 2781664 Deckel innen 1002 und darunter 170
    5.
    RolexDatejust 1601 Innen gestempelt darunter IIIV 71? Stahl Weißes Zifferblatt Gehäuse Nr 2290690
    6.
    Rolex Submariner 5513 "Meters First" Serial Nr 1778288, Innen 5513 und 14/5/84
    7.
    Rolex submariner 5513...Beschreibung von Bonhams:Rolex. A stainless steel automatic bracelet watchSubmariner, Ref:5513, Serial No.155****, Sold 22nd December 1967 26-jewel Cal.1520 automatic movement, later black dial with applied edged luminous dot hour markers and baton quarters, white outer minute divisions, luminous filled Mercedes hands and centre seconds, brushed and polished tonneau shaped case with screw down Oyster back and shouldered oversized crown, bi-directional calibrated bezel with later black insert and luminous dot at 12, fitted later brushed and polished 93150 Oyster type bracelet with 501B end links and dive extension link, signed folding clasp stamped Z2, together with combined guarantee, service record and instruction booklet and spare link, case, dial and movement signed39mm
    8,
    Rolex Sea Dweller Ref 16600 Beschreibung Auktionshaus:Rolex Oyster Perpetual Date Sea-Dweller stainless steel gentleman's bracelet watch, ref. 16600, no. Z323xxx, circa 2006, Oyster bracelet with Oyster-lock clasp, 42mm*with Rolex box and outer cover, guarantee paper from Martin & Co Ltd, Cheltenham dated 24/12/06
    9.
    Rolex GMT Master 1675 Indiv Nr M132716
    10.
    Rolex GMT Master 16700 Serial W378718 Calibre 3175 Beschreibung vom Versteigerer: ROLEX - a gentleman's Oyster Perpetual Date GMT-Master bracelet watch. Circa 1995. Stainless steel case with calibrated bezel. Reference 16700, serial W378718. Signed automatic calibre 3175 with quick date set. Black dial with luminous hour markers, date aperture to three. Fitted to a signed stainless steel Oyster bracelet with Oysterclasp. 39mm.
    11.
    Rolex Daytona Patrizi Dial Beschreibung vom Versteigerer:Bracelett 78790A ist bei mir dran
    ROLEX seltene Herrenarmbanduhr Oyster Perpetual Cosmograph DAYTONA, Automatik, Ref. 16520, N-Serie, Mark III Tritiumzifferblatt m. sog. inverted 6 (umgekehrte 6 beim Stopp -Std.-Zähler) & leicht cremfarbenen Ringen, Chronometer der Superlative in Edelstahl inkl.Oysterband (Ref. 78790A), Boden, Krone & Drücker verschr., ab Herst. wasserd., Anz. v. Std., Min., kl. Sek. bei 9 & Chronographenz., Lünette m. gravierter Tachymeterskala bis 400 Units per Hour, Saphirflachgl., Werk rhod., Kal. 4030, 31 St., monomet. Unr., Breg.-Spir.,Zentralrotor kugelgel., in 5 Lagen just., D. ca. 40 mm, L. ca. 19,5 cm, orig. Etui & Zertifikat, demnach gek. 08/1992, Nutzsp., EZ 2-3, diese Ref. wird nicht mehr produziert .
    12.
    Rolex Oyster Perpetual Date Sea-Dweller Ref 16600 Nr Z323xxx Beschreibung vom Versteigerer:Rolex Oyster Perpetual Date Sea-Dweller stainless steel gentleman's bracelet watch, ref. 16600,Gardiner HoulgateRolex Oyster Perpetual Date Sea-Dweller stainless steel gentleman's bracelet watch, ref. 16600, no. Z323xxx, circa 2006, Oyster bracelet with Oyster-lock clasp, 42mm*with Rolex box and outer cover, guarantee paper from Martin & Co Ltd, Cheltenham dated 24/12/06
    13.
    Patek Philippe Gelbgold/Gelbgold Band Calatrava Gehäuse Nr 424902. Werk Nr 748571
    14.
    Patek Philippe Nautilus 3800/1 in Gelbgold Beschreibung vom Versteigerer:PATEK PHILIPPE hochfeine Herrenarmbanduhr Modell Nautilus Design von Gerald Genta, Automatik, Schweiz 1990er Jahre, Ref. 3800/1, GG 750/000 inkl. Gliederband m. Faltschl., Lünette gegen Geh. 4-fach verschr., ab Herst. wasserd., Zifferbl. m. aufgel. GG-Std.- Zeichen, Goldzeiger, Anz. v. Std., Min., Zentralsek. & Datum, Kal. 330 SC, 29 St., Genfer Siegel, Streifenschl., Rotor massiv GG, M. ca. 38 x 38 mm, L. ca. 18 cm, PPC Edelholzetui, EZ 2-3, aus Sammlungsauflösung
    15.
    Vacheron & Constantin, Golduhr, Innen gestempelt 003(?) 0,750 Im Rechteck, Werk 1003Beschreibung:Es handelt sich um eine originale Vacheron & Constantin aus den 60er Jahren.In dieser Uhr tickt das exzellente und wunderschöne Uhrwerk Kaliber 1003 von Vacheron.Es hat eine Bauhöhe von lediglich 1,64mm und einen Durchmesser von 20,8mm, einfach wahre Uhrmacherkunst.Dieses wird auch heute noch in einigen aktuellen Modellen verbaut.Die Uhr ist aus Gold (0,750) ,sogar der Werkhalter.An den feststehenden Bandanstößen ist ein schwarzes originales Krokodillederband montiert.Die Uhr läuft bereits einwandfrei. Dennoch werde ich sie, sobald sie verkauft ist, noch zusammen mit meinem Meister überholen, um eine perfekte Uhr abgeben zu können und jeglichen eventuell auftretetenden Mängeln vorzubeugen.Vorweg möchte ich noch sagen, dass eine Überholung bei Vacheron & Constantin 1300€ kostet. Mein Betrieb ist allerdings in der Lage, auch diese Uhren zu überholen, wie es in der Vergangenheit schon oft geschehen ist.Auch bei dieser Uhr handelt es sich um ein seltenes Stück in tadellosem Zustand. Sie ist in geringer Stückzahl produziert worden.Weiterhin steht der Name Vacheron & Constantin für perfekte Verarbeitung und Qualität.Auch hier gewährleiste ich die Echtheit dieser Uhr.
    16.
    Ebel Wave, Weißes Zifferblatt Gold Lünette
    17.
    Breitling 2 Drücker Chrono, Gehäuse 550154/171 Innendeckel mit 253 Gestempelt 18.Breitling 3 Zeiger Hinten Deckel markiert 123/338382 19.Breitling Headwind Chronomtre...Hinten Graviert u.A mit Nr B45355 Band Graviert mit 354A/S4902
    20.
    Breitling Navitimer Platiné Airbourne, Limited Edition. Hinten Graviert mit 43/80, Zifferblatt Blau mit numer 43 zwischen der 7:00 und 8:00Werksnummer 74 Gehäuse/Case Nr NrL3303012/C178....Identification number 1030640010
    21.
    Glashütte Taucher
    22.
    Schaumburg Watch ...Lindburgh & Benson Automatic Black One.... Zifferblatt schwarz, zweite Krone bei 22:00 3-6-9-12 roter strichHinten graviert Nr 0800 - 05/LB
    23.
    Tutima F2 PR 780 Modell Nr 780-81, Serien Nr 614845
    24.
    Tudor Submariner Snowflake Ref 94110 Deckel Innen gestempelt 9411 daneben von hand geritzt Uhrmacher Zeichen u.A. 60702 140 im Kasten mit Pfeil
    25.
    Omega Seamaster Professional Chronometer 300m/1000ft Blaue LünetteZifferblatt Blau/Grau WellenSogenannte "James Bond"
    26.
    Omega Plo ProfGehäuse 82033595Beschreibung von Versteigerer:OMEGA - a gentleman's Seamaster Professional Ploprof 1200M Co-Axial bracelet watch. Stainlessa gentleman's Seamaster Professional Ploprof 1200M Co-Axial bracelet watch. Stainless steel case with calibrated bezel. Numbered 82033595. Signed automatic calibre 8500 with quick date set. Black dial with luminous hour markers, date aperture between four and five. Fitted to a signed stainless steel “Sharkproof” bracelet with folding clasp. 55mm. Box and papers.
    27.
    OMEGA seltene Herernarmbanduhr Serie Cosmic, Handaufzug, Schweiz um 1947, Ref. 2486-2, hartverg. Metallgeh. altersbed. dell., Boden & Glasrand aufgedr., vers. Zifferbl. rest. (altersbed. dell.), Anz. v. Std., Min., kl. Sek., Tag, Datum, Monat & Mondphase, Korrekturdr. seitl. im Geh. eingel., rotverg. Werk altersbed. korr., 17 St., Kal. 381, Schr.-Unr., Flachspir., Incabl., D. ca. 37 mm, Überh. empf., EZ 3
    28. + 29.
    2 x Omega Seamaster 120 Afghan Air Force.Schwarzes Zifferblatt, Zentral SekundeSchwarze Lünette 12:00- 3:00 Sekunden Unterteilung, 20 -60 keine UnterteilungHinten Graviert/Gestempelt Seamaster-120 WaterproofSeeungeheuer, Im Kreis Pyramide jeder Schenkel mit I und unterer Schenkel mit Umgekehrter Z
    30.
    Omega Speedmaster professional Cal 861
    31.
    Omega Speedmaster Professional Mk IIBand gestempelt 173Innen Deckel DDE BR + 2750/67Acioer Inoxydable145-014Schlüsselloch SymbolCase hinten Seeungeheuer leicht zu erkennen
    32.
    Omega Speedmaster Professional Mk IVAutomaticSt 176.009WerkNrGehäuseNr
    33.
    Omega Speedmaster Automatic
    34.
    Omega Planet Ocean 2908,50,83.CO_AXIAL Chronometer 600m/20000ftBlaues ZifferblattOrange BandBeschreibung lt Verkäufer:OMEGA PLANET OCEAN 2908.50.8345,5mm ss case, orange rubber strap with folding claspCaliber: Omega 2500 Self-winding chronometer, Co-Axial Escapement movement with rhodium-plated finish.Power reserve: 48 hours working well like it should, in very good condition full set: inner and outer box, manual, card holder and all 3 cards
    35.
    Omega Railmaster Ref CK 2914-35C Ca 1959movement no. 16636756,.Beschreibung Versteigerer:Description: Wristwatch: Omega rarity, early antimagnetic 'Railmaster' ref. CK 2914-3SC, ca. 1959 Ca. Ø38 mm, stainless steel, original screwed back with Railmaster logo, with additional Omega 'Amagnetic' dome, manual winding caliber 284, movement no. 16636756, original dial with luminous indexes, luminous hands, center seconds, leather strap like new, old stainless steel flex strap, movement intact, needs service, from first owner, Omega collector's rarity.

    36.
    Omega Ranchero Ref 2900 Cal 267...Ca 1958Werk Nr
    17032887(?)Beschreibung Versteigerer:A RARE GENTLEMAN'S STAINLESS STEEL
    OMEGA RANCHERO WRIST WATCH CIRCA 1958, REF. 2990 1D: Silver dial with
    quarterly Arabic numerals, luminous markers & "broad arrow" hands,
    subsidiary seconds. M: 17 jewel manual wind movement, signed Omega &
    numbered, calibre 267. C: Circular 'Waterproof' case, signed Omega
    Watch Co., Omega crown, case diameter measures approx 36mm. S: Tan
    leather strap.CONDITION REPORTD: Original dial in good condition,
    showing signs of age and patina. M: Working at present. C: In excellent
    condition, with some light scratches due to general use. S: In excellent
    condition.D: Dial / M: Movement / C: Case / S: Strap / B: Bracelet
    37.
    Omega
    Seamaster 300WerkNr. 25608607Gehäuse Nr ...Beschreibung lt
    Verkäufer:Verkaufe eine original Vintage Omega Seamaster 300, 165.024
    mit der schönen Bakalit Lünette. Ein echter Klassiker mit hoher
    Wertsteigerung im schönen vintage, allgemein Zustand. Sensationelle
    Patina!Cal. 552 überprüft und gereinigt vom Uhrmacher bit
    Bescheinigung!Läuft prima!
    38.
    Omega Seamaster Titan
    Beschreibung lt VerkäuferWater resistant to 400ftThe Titanium features 18K inlaid gold and scratch resistant crystal
    39.
    Omega
    Lois Brandt 1st edition Limited Produced only in a total quantity of
    193Omega/Louis Brandt, Werk Nr. 137044953, Geh. Nr. 431, Cal. 716, 34
    mm, 1984Hochfeine, automatische Herrenarmbanduhr mit ewigem Kalender und
    Mondphase - Originalschatulle Geh.: 18Kt Gold, Druckboden mit
    Werksverglasung, Krone mit gefasstem Brillant, geflochtenes 18Kt "Omega"
    Panzer-Goldarmband. Ziffbl.: weiß, radiale röm. Zahlen, signiert, Tag-,
    Datums-, Monats- und Schaltjahresanzeige, Mondphase, Baton-Zeiger.
    Werk: Rotoraufzugswerk, vergoldet, aufwändig graviert, durchbrochen
    gearbeiteter Rotor, gebläute Schrauben, Glucydur-Schraubenunruh,
    Incabloc Stoßsicherung für Unruh, Exzenter-Feinregulierung.Die
    Kollektion "Louis Brandt by Omega" 1984"Am Weltkongress der
    Generalvertreter in Interlaken (20-24. Mai 1984) erstmals vorgestellt,
    erhielt diese hochstehende Kollektion den Namen "Louis Brandt" zur
    Würdigung sowohl des Firmengründers als auch der handwerklichen
    Tradition von Omega. Inspiriert durch den Italiener Fernando Fontana,
    Direktor der Gehäusefabrik Lascor (Sesto Calende), besteht sie
    ausschließlich aus handgefertigten, komplizierten mechanischen Uhren.
    Durch den kratzfesten Saphirglasboden des wasserdichten Gehäuses lassen
    sich die Bewegungen des kostbaren, gravierten Werkes mit seinen
    Lichtreflexen auf den polierten Oberflächen bewundern. Zwei Merkmale
    charakterisieren die ganze Linie: die goldene Aufzugskrone, mit sieben
    Brillanten sowie die goldene Schnalle der Lederbänder, deren Dorn
    ebenfalls einen Brillanten trägt. Jede "Louis Brandt" ist
    nummeriert."Info vonThis watch may have existed with different
    dials.More product informationCase : round (35 x 8,7 mm), 18K solid
    yellow goldFor croco straps of 18 mm lug-sizeInternational Collection :
    1983-1987Swiss retail price (1987) : CHF 6'590.-Also available on 18K
    solid gold bracelet under ref. BA 356.0001 (CHF 13'275.-).JLM- Other - -
    Phase de lune or Gents' leather strapReferenceBA 156.0003International
    collection1983Special seriesLimited but not numberedMovementType:
    Automatic (mechanical)
    Caliber number: 715
    Created in1983Hand-engraved movement parts24 jewelsProduced in a total quantity of 466 pieces only.
    FunctionsDay-date, MoonphaseCase18K solid yellow goldCase backTransparent (sapphire)
    Transparent (sapphire)
    DialWith
    concentric zones displaying the hours, minutes and date by hands, the
    day, month and moon phase by window - available either in silver (.002),
    gilt (.001 or .003) or mat white (.004), all with 12 roman hour
    markers.CrystalScratch-resistant sapphireBraceletCrocodile leather
    strapWater resistance30 metersThis watch may have existed with different
    dials.More product informationCase : round (34 mm diameter), 18K solid
    yellow gold, with three pushbuttons allowing easy correction of each
    function, by means of a key (18K solid gold).International Collection :
    1984Swiss retail price (1984) : CHF 16'700.-JLMLouis Brandt - I Gents'
    leather strapReferenceBA 156.769 BZ 01International
    collection1984Special seriesNumbered and limitedMovementType: Automatic
    (mechanical)
    Caliber number: 716
    Created in 198424 jewelsWith
    18K gold rotorAll functions are synchronized and adjusted up to year
    2100.Produced only in a total quantity of 193
    FunctionsDay-date, Perpetual-calendar, MoonphaseCase18K solid yellow goldCase backTransparent (sapphire)
    Transparent (sapphire)
    DialWhite,
    with 3 counters and moon phase, roman hour markers and black "stick"
    hands.CrystalScratch-resistant sapphireBraceletCrocodile leather
    strapWater resistance30 meters Alain MonachonOMEGA MUSEUM - Archivist
    40.
    Omega Flightmaster Cal 910
    41.
    Omega
    Flightmaster Cal 911Innendeckel gestempelt im Dreieck Omega watch
    coFab. Suisse Swissmade AcierInoxydable145.036Schlüsselloch
    SymbolDarunter Uhrmacher einritzung WR 28367Beschreibung
    VersteigererOmega. A stainless steel manual wind chronograph bracelet
    watchFlightmaster, Ref:145.036, Movement No.33319646, Circa 1971Lot
    DetailsOmega. A stainless steel manual wind chronograph bracelet
    watchFlightmaster, Ref:145.036, Movement No.33319646, Circa 197117-jewel
    Cal.911 manual wind movement, dark grey dial with luminous baton hour
    markers, black outer 1/5th second divisions on light grey surround,
    raised outer Arabic five minute markers on black surround, white pointed
    baton hands with luminous inserts and orange centre chronograph hand,
    blue jet shaped GMT hand with luminous insert, sunken black subsidiary
    dials at 3, 6 and 9 for running seconds, 30 minute and 12 hour
    recording, brushed and polished tonneau shaped case with screw down
    back, winding crown at 3 flanked by twin chronograph pushers, colour
    coded crowns at 8 and 10 for adjusting GMT hand and outer scale, fitted
    1162 Omega link bracelet with signed folding clasp, case, dial and
    movement signed42mm.
    42.
    Omega OMEGA SEAMASTER DATE AUTOMATIC
    WATCH Schwarzes Zifferblatt Pink gold LünetteHinten, Seamaster Logo
    Automatic selfwinding Swiss made
    45.
    IWC. Ing. Golduhr 18K Werknummer 2740654 Gehäuse Nr 255903026.06.1993
    46.
    Hamilton
    2 Drücker Militär Chronograph. Zifferblatt schwarz mit Hamilton Tim
    Kreis und Pheon bedruckt 2 Totis links bis 60, rechts bis 30Hinten
    gemarkt mit 0552/924-3306 darunter Mil.Pfeil(Pheon) darunter 1392/72
    47.
    Newmark
    2 Drücker Militär Chronograph. Zifferblatt schwarz mit NEWMARK und T
    im Kreis bedruckt. 2 Totis links bis 60, rechts bis 30.Hinten gemarkt
    mit 6BB/9243306 darunter ein Mil-pfeil (Pheon) darunter 347/80
    48.
    CWC 2 Drücker Militär Chronograph. Hinten graviert 6B/551-924-3306 darunter ein Mil. Pfeil (Pheon), darunter 014/75
    49.
    CWC 2 Drücker Militär Chronograph . Hinten graviert BAF/014 darunter 6645-99 darunter 814-9181Quartz Werk Nr ?251272
    50.
    Lemania
    1 Drücker Militär Chronograph, Zifferblatt schwarz, mit Lemania T im
    Kreis, Mil. Pfeil (Pheon), darunter incabloc.Hinten Graviert
    6BB/924-3306 darunter 2073/65
    51.
    Lemania 1 Drücker Militär
    Chronograph, Zifferblatt weiß mit Lemania und Mil. Pfeil (Pheon)
    Zifferblatt Farb-abplatzer oben bei 11:30hinten graviert mit AM/6B/551
    darunter 1563/63
    52.
    Pulsar 2 Drücker Militär
    Chronograph, Zifferblatt schwarz mit 3 Totis, obere Toti 0,5Sek untere
    Toti 0-60Sec linker Toti bei 9:00 0-60Min. Pulsar gedruckt darunter
    Chronograph, darunter L im Kreis . Datumscheibe in weiß mit schwarzen
    Zahlen. Hinten gemarkt mit 6645-99, darunter 9584756, darunter Mil pfeil
    (Pheon), darunter 00699/11, darunter PULSAR
    53.
    Sinn 303 mit tachymeter scale hinten graviert mit Sinn Chronograph darunter 303.0592...Z=300 darunter W über 300
    54.
    Sinn
    U1 Zentral Sekunde, schwarzes Zifferblatt U1in rot darunter automatic
    in rot. darunter 1000m/100bar in rot, Serien Nr 1010010/10547 Gehäuse
    hinten Graviert U1 darunter 1000m Sinn Deutscher U-Boot Stahl. 1010
    10547
    55.
    Sinn UX EZM2b GSG9 Zifferblatt Schwarz, Sinn weiss
    gedruckt, Datum Scheibe schwarz mit weiße Schrift. EZM Chronometerin
    rot, darunter HYDRO UX in rot, darunter Emblem und GSG 9, Made in
    Germany in rot. Serien Nr.403-51502
    Hinten graviert mit Seewaserbeständig 406.51502. SINN Deutscher U-Boot Stahl
    56.
    Heuer
    Viceroy, Zifferblatt schwarz, Totalisatoren weiss, rechts 0-30
    ...links 1-12, Zentralsekundenzeiger rot, Stunden Indecies rot, Gehäuse
    graviert bei 6:00 mit 1163 und darunter V... und bei 12:00... 267223
    Stunden und Minutenzeiger haben ein roter zentral Strich
    57.
    Aristo
    Volmer FT 1,Limited Edition, Schwarzes Zifferblatt, Stunden in Weisse
    striche, 3-6-9-12 weiße Zahlen, 3H in rot bei der 6:00 Position. Hinten
    gemarkt mit www.flying-time. de, FT ONE Special Edition by Aristo
    Vollmer GmbH
    58.
    Glycine Airmann
    Schwarzes Zifferblatt 24 Std Einteilung, Glycine Airmann darunter Automatic
    940/25
    Hinten Graviert Pat.314050 darunter 323 1119
    Mit Box und Papiere.

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    I’m so sorry to hear about this. I know how committed you are to your watches from our earlier dialogue and this must be hard to take.

    I hope this bump draws more attention to your post. Maybe worth sticking a reference to it in WatchTalk to direct people here in case some miss it.

    Sorry I can’t help but I hope you get your watches back and find the people who did this.

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    Look at him there, like a child in a sweet shop, eyes nearly popping out of his head, the wee rat faced scumbag!

    Hope you have some success with this Geronimo, i'm raging off for you... terrible.
    Last edited by EchoSevenNine; 18th April 2019 at 14:28.

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    thieving little ba4tard!

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    That's awful, such a personal invasion. Sorry to hear about your loss, good luck recovering your assets.

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    That is so awful. I hope the police find and recover your watches for you.

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    Hope they catch the guy and the watches. Best of luck.

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    Dirty rotten bastards. Untermensch indeed.

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    Germany, theft of 58 Watches

    Quote Originally Posted by KurtKnispel View Post
    *** indeed.
    Probably best not to use this phrase...


    I hope the OP gets his watches back, or that they were at least insured. Such a collection would no doubt have taken many years and much research to amass.

    ETA: Are the police not interested, given the evidence?
    Last edited by Dark Side of The Loon; 27th April 2019 at 14:07.

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    Very sad to hear of this. That's the sort of collection which takes a lifetime to achieve. Hope you get him, dead or alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtKnispel View Post
    Dirty rotten bastards.

    Are you a member of Pegida? I imagine that the word (now deleted) is bandied about quite frequently in those circles.
    Last edited by seabiscuit; 23rd April 2019 at 22:40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabiscuit View Post
    Are you a member of Pegida? I imagine that the word *** is bandied about quite frequently in those circles.
    I thought the benefit of the doubt was in order, given that the word might just be (incorrectly and naively) being used as German for scumbag etc. Which the thieves no doubt are.

    For those confused, *** was the word used for those deemed ‘sub-human’ by Nazi German racialist policy.

    I don’t know if the word was used more generally before the Nazi regime, but I presume it is not used in modern German.

    Regardless, when used by English speakers, it cannot possibly escape the most odious of connotations.
    Last edited by Dark Side of The Loon; 26th April 2019 at 17:41.

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    Is Lost and Found a public part of the forum? If so, the use of that term doesn’t reflect well on this community. Thieves are contemptible, that’s not in dispute. I’m just concerned that the new member using the term may well be using the robbery as an opportunity to apply it to the large number of migrants who’ve settled in Germany in recent years.

    I hope it’s more a case of the new member using it without fully understanding the origins of the word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabiscuit View Post
    Is Lost and Found a public part of the forum? If so, the use of that term doesn’t reflect well on this community.
    I agree, though the thread now has more than one individual taking issue with the term. Hopefully the chap in question will see this discussion, realise the nature of his mistake, and edit it out or add a retraction.

    I should think it quite easy to use the term naively, as if it were just a German word for a bad person.

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    I feel your loss, Geronimo, even though I have some difficulties with your "dead or alive" statement.

    But I take even more issue with KurtKnispel's comment, I can assure you that the word has no other meaning in German than the one which DSoTL has stated.

    @DSoTL, seabiscuit: please remove your quotes of the word in question, no point repeating it.
    When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser - probably not Socrates

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    I have redacted the word used. It is worrying that the original user of the word has not responded in any way. He has had time to post on other threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Side of The Loon View Post
    I have redacted the word used. It is worrying that the original user of the word has not responded in any way. He has had time to post on other threads.
    Still one instance up, when you quoted his post for the first time
    When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser - probably not Socrates

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    The word reminds me of Howdy (or one of his aliases).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Still one instance up, when you quoted his post for the first time
    Sorted.

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    Very sorry to hear about such an eclectic and impressive collection being stolen. Hope they catch the guys and reclaim all of the pieces

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    I feel your loss, Geronimo, even though I have some difficulties with your "dead or alive" statement.

    But I take even more issue with KurtKnispel's comment, I can assure you that the word has no other meaning in German than the one which DSoTL has stated.

    @DSoTL, seabiscuit: please remove your quotes of the word in question, no point repeating it.
    The only way to deal with these scum is to beat them at their own game, when in Rome do as the Romans do.
    I paid 5000€ for the name of the unmasked bastard, and then I went on the hunt for him, being prepared to put him down like the dog he is.
    Fearing for his life, the bastard gave himself up to the police, as the pressure was a bit too much for him.
    In the meantime another person got in touch with me, saying, for 15000€ they would sell me the name of all involved, especially those that planned and paid for the break-in.
    After tough negotiations, I finally paid another 5000€ for the info... The men that planned the robbery was a Turkish Kurd and the son of one of my close friends. It really made my stomach turn...
    I invited father and son to my house, saying I had something interesting!
    They came and as soon as they were seated, I said "you are the bastard behind my break-in, and only still alive, because I've know your father for the best part of 35 years" ... nothing came in defence , exept the father said, it is time to break up the meeting and he would get in touch with me later.
    He did so a few days later, saying he would see to it that my watches are returned if I would guarantee there would be no vendetta.
    Another few days past and The father came one evening with a black bag, in it were 2 parcels, one with just empty watch boxes and the other with the remaining watches. There were even 13 watches and 7 pocket watches, that I didn`t even mention to the police.
    I may have said there would be no vendetta, but only if ALL watches were returned, you can guess what is going to happen now!
    Here the list of the 20 watches still missing

    2.
    Royal Oak Jumbo"Audemars Piguet Swiss "Royal Oak Jumbo Automatic" Stahl/Gold automatische Genfer Herrenarmbanduhr der "B-Serie" mit Datum
    3.
    Rolex Submariner 5512 Nr Lt Papiere1693208/5512
    8,
    Rolex Sea Dweller Ref 16600 Beschreibung Auktionshaus:Rolex Oyster Perpetual Date Sea-Dweller stainless steel gentleman's bracelet watch, ref. 16600, no. Z323xxx, circa 2006, Oyster bracelet with Oyster-lock clasp, 42mm*with Rolex box and outer cover, guarantee paper from Martin & Co Ltd, Cheltenham dated 24/12/06
    9.
    Rolex GMT Master 1675 Indiv Nr M132716
    10.
    Rolex GMT Master 16700 Serial W378718 Calibre 3175 Beschreibung vom Versteigerer: ROLEX - a gentleman's Oyster Perpetual Date GMT-Master bracelet watch. Circa 1995. Stainless steel case with calibrated bezel. Reference 16700, serial W378718. Signed automatic calibre 3175 with quick date set. Black dial with luminous hour markers, date aperture to three. Fitted to a signed stainless steel Oyster bracelet with Oysterclasp. 39mm.
    11.
    Rolex Daytona Patrizi Dial Beschreibung vom Versteigerer:Bracelett 78790A ist bei mir dran
    ROLEX seltene Herrenarmbanduhr Oyster Perpetual Cosmograph DAYTONA, Automatik, Ref. 16520, N-Serie, Mark III Tritiumzifferblatt m. sog. inverted 6 (umgekehrte 6 beim Stopp -Std.-Zähler) & leicht cremfarbenen Ringen, Chronometer der Superlative in Edelstahl inkl.Oysterband (Ref. 78790A), Boden, Krone & Drücker verschr., ab Herst. wasserd., Anz. v. Std., Min., kl. Sek. bei 9 & Chronographenz., Lünette m. gravierter Tachymeterskala bis 400 Units per Hour, Saphirflachgl., Werk rhod., Kal. 4030, 31 St., monomet. Unr., Breg.-Spir.,Zentralrotor kugelgel., in 5 Lagen just., D. ca. 40 mm, L. ca. 19,5 cm, orig. Etui & Zertifikat, demnach gek. 08/1992, Nutzsp., EZ 2-3, diese Ref. wird nicht mehr produziert .
    13.
    Patek Philippe Gelbgold/Gelbgold Band Calatrava Gehäuse Nr 424902. Werk Nr 748571
    14.
    Patek Philippe Nautilus 3800/1 in Gelbgold Beschreibung vom Versteigerer:PATEK PHILIPPE hochfeine Herrenarmbanduhr Modell Nautilus Design von Gerald Genta, Automatik, Schweiz 1990er Jahre, Ref. 3800/1, GG 750/000 inkl. Gliederband m. Faltschl., Lünette gegen Geh. 4-fach verschr., ab Herst. wasserd., Zifferbl. m. aufgel. GG-Std.- Zeichen, Goldzeiger, Anz. v. Std., Min., Zentralsek. & Datum, Kal. 330 SC, 29 St., Genfer Siegel, Streifenschl., Rotor massiv GG, M. ca. 38 x 38 mm, L. ca. 18 cm, PPC Edelholzetui, EZ 2-3, aus Sammlungsauflösung
    20.
    Breitling Navitimer Platiné Airbourne, Limited Edition. Hinten Graviert mit 43/80, Zifferblatt Blau mit numer 43 zwischen der 7:00 und 8:00Werksnummer 74 Gehäuse/Case Nr NrL3303012/C178....Identification number 1030640010
    22.
    Schaumburg Watch ...Lindburgh & Benson Automatic Black One.... Zifferblatt schwarz, zweite Krone bei 22:00 3-6-9-12 roter strichHinten graviert Nr 0800 - 05/LB
    27.
    OMEGA seltene Herernarmbanduhr Serie Cosmic, Handaufzug, Schweiz um 1947, Ref. 2486-2, hartverg. Metallgeh. altersbed. dell., Boden & Glasrand aufgedr., vers. Zifferbl. rest. (altersbed. dell.), Anz. v. Std., Min., kl. Sek., Tag, Datum, Monat & Mondphase, Korrekturdr. seitl. im Geh. eingel., rotverg. Werk altersbed. korr., 17 St., Kal. 381, Schr.-Unr., Flachspir., Incabl., D. ca. 37 mm, Überh. empf., EZ 3
    32.
    Omega Speedmaster Professional Mk IVAutomaticSt 176.009WerkNrGehäuseNr
    33.
    Omega Speedmaster Automatic
    38.
    Omega Seamaster Titan
    Beschreibung lt VerkäuferWater resistant to 400ftThe Titanium features 18K inlaid gold and scratch resistant crystal
    39.
    Omega
    Lois Brandt 1st edition Limited Produced only in a total quantity of
    193Omega/Louis Brandt, Werk Nr. 137044953, Geh. Nr. 431, Cal. 716, 34
    mm, 1984Hochfeine, ....
    40.
    Omega Flightmaster Cal 910
    45.
    IWC. Ing. Golduhr 18K Werknummer 2740654 Gehäuse Nr 255903026.06.1993
    53.
    Sinn 303 mit tachymeter scale hinten graviert mit Sinn Chronograph darunter 303.0592...Z=300 darunter W über 300
    54.
    Sinn
    U1 Zentral Sekunde, schwarzes Zifferblatt U1in rot darunter automatic
    in rot. darunter 1000m/100bar in rot, Serien Nr 1010010/10547 Gehäuse
    hinten Graviert U1 darunter 1000m Sinn Deutscher U-Boot Stahl. 1010
    10547
    55.
    Sinn UX EZM2b GSG9 Zifferblatt Schwarz, Sinn weiss
    gedruckt, Datum Scheibe schwarz mit weiße Schrift. EZM Chronometerin
    rot, darunter HYDRO UX in rot, darunter Emblem und GSG 9, Made in
    Germany in rot. Serien Nr.403-51502
    Hinten graviert mit Seewaserbeständig 406.51502. SINN Deutscher U-Boot Stahl.


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    What a weird story.

    Happy that you have at least some of your watches back. I won't comment of the self-justice part.
    When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser - probably not Socrates

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    Go on then Geronimo, tell us what's going to happen now. Are you going to have people killed? Please, what is your background in this killing people game? I'm genuinely interested. Are you like some sort of mafia boss? International hitman? Deluded banker?

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    Well done you on getting some of your watches back, good luck for the rest of them, probably best NOT mention on this forum your methods as it might upset some of the populace.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Hotel View Post
    Go on then Geronimo, tell us what's going to happen now. Are you going to have people killed? Please, what is your background in this killing people game? I'm genuinely interested. Are you like some sort of mafia boss? International hitman? Deluded banker?
    Is there a tickling stick involved? All very bizarre.

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    Germany, theft of 58 Watches

    Well if all true I say fair play, too many low life’s get away with unpunished crimes, that is a fine collection of watches which would have taken time, research and lots of money to acquire, all for some scum to walk through the door of your premises and help themselves. I hope they give up the rest of your watches now they know your serious.

    Word of advice though, get a bloody great safe, it would have probably stopped all this happening in the first place.




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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilT View Post
    Is there a tickling stick involved? All very bizarre.
    Water-boarding usually works.

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    What a story. uau.

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    Well done

    Good job they didn’t kill your puppy or smash up your Mustang.

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    Officially the craziest thread i've ever read on here. Id be more than happy to read a crazier one if someone can direct me?

    If this is all true, fair play to you Sir.

    You could sell the story to Netflix!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKH View Post
    Well done

    Good job they didn’t kill your puppy or smash up your Mustang.
    Lol, very good

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    Looks like a Steven Seagal movie plot.

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    I’d love to read the ending to this story !

    Fair play to the OP for trying to sort it

    Funny how the thread changes and becomes very quickly more about words used rather than what’s happened although I don’t know the word used And I am not saying any poor taste words are ok to use
    I just find it interesting how the threads change

    The OP sounds like he is nails ! 🤣

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    Well done for getting your watches back. Those involved could have easily avoided any unpleasantness...don't take other people's sh*t!

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2ore View Post
    I’d love to read the ending to this story !

    Fair play to the OP for trying to sort it

    Funny how the thread changes and becomes very quickly more about words used rather than what’s happened although I don’t know the word used And I am not saying any poor taste words are ok to use
    I just find it interesting how the threads change

    The OP sounds like he is nails ! 藍
    Not words. One particular word that shouldn’t have a place in anyone’s vocabulary. In fairness to the OP, he wasn’t the one who used it.

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    Regardless of word or words used , and I realise the OP did not use said vocabulary
    My point still stands

    Just find it interesting


    Anyway what about the ending to the story ??



    Quote Originally Posted by seabiscuit View Post
    Not words. One particular word that shouldn’t have a place in anyone’s vocabulary. In fairness to the OP, he wasn’t the one who used it.

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    I must admit I didn’t expect the OP to get any of his watches back but respected his attitude in not giving up and hoped an update would be forthcoming.

    The update didn’t disappoint and I am glad a number of the watches have been returned. Good luck trying to track down the remaining missing watches.

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    I like the way you roll Geronomi. Good luck on finding these people.

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    Is there an update yet ?



    Quote Originally Posted by geoffcotton View Post
    I like the way you roll Geronomi. Good luck on finding these people.

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    Hi OP.

    You do what you have to do bud.

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    What a story mate . Glad you got some back 👍 any update on this ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    What a weird story.

    Happy that you have at least some of your watches back. I won't comment of the self-justice part.
    Not really weird!.

    Scumbags Nick someone's hard earned.

    Scumbags get or should get sorted......and be offered free advice/help to stop further suffering to others.

    Most law abiding citizens happy scumbags no longer in this line of work.

    State saves future cost of prison etc etc.

    Happy ending.

    Altenative:-All law abiding citizens drop your trousers outside your home bend over and take it with a smile!.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooshabak View Post
    precisely what was going through my head , as I slowly started reading the thread in my liam Neeson voice without even realising . can understand the anger of the OP , so kudos for getting your stuff back .

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    Maybe this can justify my anger, there was a court case a couple of days ago, the scum who was unmasked and gave himself in to the police was sentanced... for 16 Months on probation, fined 500€... It really makes me sick.

    https://www.bild.de/regional/hannove...3774.bild.html

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    Germany, theft of 58 Watches

    Any leads on the 20 (€280.000) still missing?

    The motive was: he stole them for ‘Chico’ to clear a €1.500 drug debt and, on top Chico gave him €500?

    Any lead to identify and apprehend ‘Chico’? Does ‘Chico’ exist or do you think the criminal made this up?

    Sorry, I don’t speak German, I figured this out from Google Translate so my interpretation could be wrong.

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    No, he stole them with "Chico" who was apparantly also his dealer, and I believe he made up the name, he lied through his teeth all through the court-case, saying he didn`t know him and hasn`t heard or seen him since!
    No leads as of yet, to the rest of the watches.

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