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Thread: The Story Of Charles Vermot - The Man Who Saved The El Primero

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    The Story Of Charles Vermot - The Man Who Saved The El Primero



    The Story Of Charles Vermot - The Man Who Saved The El Primero

    An amazing story.

    Baselworld 2019: Why the Zenith El Primero calibre survived when the quartz crisis hit Switzerland
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WBIK45CwhM

    The Story Of Charles Vermot, The Man Who Saved The El Primero (And Possibly Zenith)
    https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ch...ossibly-zenith

    Charles Vermot - Saviour of the Zenith El Primero (in French but English subs can be auto-generated)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9BldGDz4U0

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    The El Primero in the pic is a Zenith A. Cairelli Chronograph CP-2, for the Italian army.

    All You Need to Know About the Zenith A. Cairelli Chronograph CP-2
    https://www.revolution.watch/the-tal...ronograph-cp2/

    The re-issue
    https://www.watchonista.com/articles...cairelli-model

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    From almost the very beginning of my journey into this hobby - and by that l mean from the point when l began to understand it beyond drooling at goldsmiths window - l have had a massive respect and admiration for Charles Vermot.
    His refusal to accept the "inevitability" of the changes in the technology of the day and his belief in the value of mechanical beauty and relevance in watchmaking is something genuinely special.

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    Some very interesting reading in those links, thanks for sharing.

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    Some very good stuff there, but your pic is not an El Primero, the original Cairelli pre-dates the El Primero and uses a manual wind Cal 146 (HP or DP, not sure) - but one that came from UG, rather than in house.

    Dave

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    Looking forward to reading these, thanks for posting them

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    Very interesting, thanks John.

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    Very cool read. Thanks for sharing.

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    Great info there, thanks for posting john


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    Thanks for the post. I’d love one of the original CP2

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    Of course, the reason the original CP2 didnít feature the El Primero movement was because, in the mid-sixties, it didnít exist. It only arrived several years later (1969). But as the one truly iconic Zenith movement, it seems fitting that it features in the 2016 re-edition of the CP2. Both watch and movement mark significant Zenith achievements.
    Trouble is, the market has become so conservative that anything that isnít a sports Rolex is automatically handicapped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    Some very good stuff there, but your pic is not an El Primero, the original Cairelli pre-dates the El Primero and uses a manual wind Cal 146 (HP or DP, not sure) - but one that came from UG, rather than in house.

    Dave
    Thanks for that. At least the reissue is an El Primero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    Thanks for that. At least the reissue is an El Primero.
    It is indeed, which is the reason for the only visible design change (between original and the re-issue) in the dial, the fact that the re-issue sub-dials finish incredibly close to the centre pinion, which they do not on the original. This is because the El Primero sub-dial centres are closer to the central pinion, and to keep the proportions on the outside, the other edge has to head towards the centre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
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    Trouble is, the market has become so conservative that anything that isnít a sports Rolex is automatically handicapped.
    Rolex are for people who have no interest in watches...

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    Rolex are for people who have no interest in watches...
    That's exactly like saying BMW are for people who have no interest in cars...
    ...l know where you're coming from - or rather but an incredibly bad way to attempt to express it...

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    Thanks for posting this, very interesting. I'll wear mine with a renewed pleasure.

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    Great read, thanks. I'd heard this story alluded to on Podcasts, but hadn't read it in detail.

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    Interesting read,thanks for posting.
    As for Rolex, some can't even keep it out of discussion even when talk is about a Zenith movement. Rolex must haunt them in their sleeps too. Unhealthy obsession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    As for Rolex, some can't even keep it out of discussion even when talk is about a Zenith movement. Rolex must haunt them in their sleeps too. Unhealthy obsession.
    Seems that way doesn't it?

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