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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Thanks Raj. I was playing with HDR, but this is the unadulterated version...

    This and the 655 are my two favourites. Know next to nothing about the brand but I admire those two references.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabiscuit View Post
    This and the 655 are my two favourites. Know next to nothing about the brand but I admire those two references.
    I'd love to have the two - one day, perhaps. You clearly like the 1940 case, which is really a model series in it's own right (in addition to Radiomir and Luminor, I mean).

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    I owned a few Panerai years ago and was part of the Paneristi forum group that met up in Germany for the annual event, plus also in Viareggio in the early 2000s.

    My first ever Panerai was the PAM02 on the left - a manual wind Base model dating from around 2002-2003 if I recall.

    The one on the right is a bit more special - it is the ref 5218-201A Pre-Vendome Logo with non-matching dial, dating from 1993. It is the same model that Sylvester Stallone wore in Daylight, although he wore one with a matching dial. The strap is also the oroginal sharkskin strap that came with the watch in 1993. I don't own any Panerai now but I do like the older models, especially the Pre-Vendome and Vendome models.


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    There’s a 201A for sale on paneristi now for 39k dollars,I’d be interested to know what the rrp was on one back in the early 90s.


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    Still kicking myself up the arse for not buying Freds 213.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane View Post
    I owned a few Panerai years ago and was part of the Paneristi forum group that met up in Germany for the annual event, plus also in Viareggio in the early 2000s.

    My first ever Panerai was the PAM02 on the left - a manual wind Base model dating from around 2002-2003 if I recall.

    The one on the right is a bit more special - it is the ref 5218-201A Pre-Vendome Logo with non-matching dial, dating from 1993. It is the same model that Sylvester Stallone wore in Daylight, although he wore one with a matching dial. The strap is also the oroginal sharkskin strap that came with the watch in 1993. I don't own any Panerai now but I do like the older models, especially the Pre-Vendome and Vendome models.

    Lovely, Shane. I do recall reading an article a while ago about fakes with (also fake) non-matching dials being listed for auction by Sotheby's. It's a minefield, apparently.

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    Thanks, Tony - I can believe that as the prices for these have gone through the roof (wish I'd kept mine longer). My one came from Markus Tschopp originally who is quite a famous watch dealer. I don't know the history of the watch or who first bought it. I also had the option of buying a Mare Nostrum but passed on that to buy this. Little did I know that it would have been a sound investment to have bought both, kept them for 10 years and then sold them on to pay for more important things in life.

    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Lovely, Shane. I do recall reading an article a while ago about fakes with (also fake) non-matching dials being listed for auction by Sotheby's. It's a minefield, apparently.

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    Watch finder have a dot dial 233 with box and papers in the sale at 5950 ,thought I’d mention it ,I think it’s a good price.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mk1974 View Post
    Watch finder have a dot dial 233 with box and papers in the sale at 5950 ,thought I’d mention it ,I think it’s a good price.


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    They are trading at £4-£4.5k now in the trade. Always a good choice in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    They are trading at £4-£4.5k now in the trade. Always a good choice in my opinion.
    Completely agree. Just dug mine out yesterday. It feels like a dress watch compared to the 670, although in this photo is still looks chunky.

    The 233 is a perfect 'one' Panerai if you can stick with just one.

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    I loved my dot dial. I’m pretty sure I traded a Daytona for it a fair few years ago, and I don’t recall much of a cash adjustment (if any) either

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    They are trading at £4-£4.5k now in the trade. Always a good choice in my opinion.
    Unfortunately that trade price isn’t available to the mere mortals


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    I just joined the Pam club ,I'm so happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watch freek View Post
    I just joined the Pam club ,I'm so happy

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    Congratulations. You now need a good aftermarket strap on that, and down the rabbit hole you go.

    Enjoy. They have a habit of getting under your skin.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Watch freek View Post
    I just joined the Pam club ,I'm so happy

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    Congratulations. Looks great on you and a great condition piece. ENJOY :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyp1973 View Post
    Congratulations. You now need a good aftermarket strap on that, and down the rabbit hole you go.

    Enjoy. They have a habit of getting under your skin.


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    I know I am looking at some bespoke leather .
    Loving this Pam, not sure why I haven't had one in the past , this is awesome and like new for an 11 year old watch
    Only 250 made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASW1 View Post
    Congratulations. Looks great on you and a great condition piece. ENJOY :)

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    Thanks Alun
    Yes can't believe my luck ,pristine and complete full set.
    Classic for now and the future me thinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watch freek View Post
    I know I am looking at some bespoke leather .
    Loving this Pam, not sure why I haven't had one in the past , this is awesome and like new for an 11 year old watch
    Only 250 made.

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    Have a look at Mansarea straps, look great on a PAM and well priced

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    That 285 looks amazing for its age. Hard to beat a 47mm sub.

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    Enjoying my 112 today which is pretty much the opposite end of the spectrum from the Goldtech OroCarbo I've just received an email about, I'm not a gold loving guy but I kind of like it. Unfortunately there's an extra zero on the price tag for me, I'm out
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    ^^^ That 1070 is bloody gorgeous!

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    With the normal 20 percent off retail it doesn't seem too excessive compared to, say, the WG YM. Of course we all k ow which will be worth more on resale.
    Gorgeous watch tho, 44mm is a really nice size for a submersible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lammylee View Post
    Have a look at Mansarea straps, look great on a PAM and well priced
    Thank you
    Some awesome unique straps there
    And a great price as you said


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robsmck View Post
    That 285 looks amazing for its age. Hard to beat a 47mm sub.
    Thanks Rob
    Well pleased with it.

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    Got 2 new straps for the 512. Which one looks best?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyfire View Post
    Got 2 new straps for the 512. Which one looks best?

    out of those two the vintage '74, the other looks to be a couple of mm too narrow

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    Have to agree. A strap that doesn't fill the lugs totally annoys me.

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    Return of the very first Panerai i bought, welcome home!


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    He’s stating end of Dec for delivery so he’d better be behind me on the list at the London boutique.



    £4K over list. God loves a trier.


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    Panerai appreciation thread

    Well I must have been up the list because they phoned me this morning to let me know it had come into stock.

    I’m off to pick it up on Saturday from the boutique. Feels like Christmas has come a week early.

    I know it’ll be a marmite model but I’m actually quite excited to see what it will look like in the flesh, having seen so many Instagram photos over the last few months.


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    I’m sure we’ll see some pics


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    A long day trip to London completed today. Apart from picking up the 2020 the white gold 10 day 496 was just wonderful and If I could I would. I should have taken a picture of the back of the platinum 521 because the movement was lovely. The Tourbillon was a work of art but just an obscene amount of money. It was also an absolute beast on my wrist.

    As I’m fast approaching 50 I wanted to see what a gold watch looked like on me. I’m still undecided.









    Thankfully the text at the bottom is quite subtle and not really noticeable on the wrist. I also don’t seem to be able to take any decent pictures of it. Natural light will probably help but it was dark when I got back.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyp1973 View Post
    A long day trip to London completed today. Apart from picking up the 2020 the white gold 10 day 496 was just wonderful and If I could I would. I should have taken a picture of the back of the platinum 521 because the movement was lovely. The Tourbillon was a work of art but just an obscene amount of money. It was also an absolute beast on my wrist.

    As I’m fast approaching 50 I wanted to see what a gold watch looked like on me. I’m still undecided.









    Thankfully the text at the bottom is quite subtle and not really noticeable on the wrist. I also don’t seem to be able to take any decent pictures of it. Natural light will probably help but it was dark when I got back.






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    A perfect Saturday and good you got there before Tier 4 came in.

    I must admit that the end the 2020 model looks a lot better than the initial rendering I saw in March. The domed crystal is the big win IMO. I also love the aged steel and the dial colour/texture. Personally not a fan of the 'risti text on the dial or case back. It does look great on your wrist.



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    Here a new one I only came across this morning the PAM1099.

    I'm not a fan (of the mixed material car or red) but you gotta say that it's quite a piece. Perhaps a bit too RM or Roger Dubuis for my liking, but does show the skill of Laboratorio di Idee. https://www.instagram.com/p/CI81Q4SJ...d=79qfayy62ipq

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    I am with Alun here, didn't like the first pics of the 20th model but it looks much better on the wrist than I imagined it would. I just love the aged steel look, and the script on the dial is all but invisible in your pics.
    What did you think of the goldtech? I am looking for a retirement watch and I like the look of it, apart from the black crown. Was it noticeable when on the wrist?
    Thanks. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robsmck View Post
    I am with Alun here, didn't like the first pics of the 20th model but it looks much better on the wrist than I imagined it would. I just love the aged steel look, and the script on the dial is all but invisible in your pics.
    What did you think of the goldtech? I am looking for a retirement watch and I like the look of it, apart from the black crown. Was it noticeable when on the wrist?
    Thanks. Rob

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    Regarding the 2020 I’m glad I took the plunge now. The pictures I’ve posted don’t really show how nice the dial is against the contrast of the aged steel. The text can only really be seen at certain angles and is all but invisible otherwise.

    Of the two gold subs I preferred the look of the 42mm but would want it in a bigger size. I wasn’t keen on the bezel and the black crown on the goldtech. My eye was drawn to the crown when it was on my wrist. It’s a crude statement but my first thought was two pieces of black Lego. It’s all in the eye of the beholder though and I don’t think the black rubber strap helped.

    For me the star on the table was the white gold 496. Apart from the magnifier over the date that felt special to me. Especially when you compare the case material to the stainless steel 662 next to it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ASW1 View Post
    Here a new one I only came across this morning the PAM1099.

    I'm not a fan (of the mixed material car or red) but you gotta say that it's quite a piece. Perhaps a bit too RM or Roger Dubuis for my liking, but does show the skill of Laboratorio di Idee. https://www.instagram.com/p/CI81Q4SJ...d=79qfayy62ipq

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    I’m glad I’ve seen one but it was more a piece of art than anything else. Joe was saying that they are made to order by one of eleven specialists in a separate department at the factory. He also commented that it was a bit fun and had simply been made to show off what can be achieved with money being no object.


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    Andy, great to see the 2020, and it looked like a brilliant day out at the boutique.

    I never quite understood the negative comments from some re the 2020, personally think there was a bit of sour grapes going on in the Panerai communities.

    Everything to me about it is right, i always suspected the inscription on the dial would meld in, in saying that its a 20th anniversary model so i do think it is a good way to capture that.

    It looks great on the OEM strap. Health to wear you lucky sod!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nev View Post
    Andy, great to see the 2020, and it looked like a brilliant day out at the boutique.

    I never quite understood the negative comments from some re the 2020, personally think there was a bit of sour grapes going on in the Panerai communities.

    Everything to me about it is right, i always suspected the inscription on the dial would meld in, in saying that its a 20th anniversary model so i do think it is a good way to capture that.

    It looks great on the OEM strap. Health to wear you lucky sod!!
    Thanks for the kind words. I was fortunate to have the funds at the right time having sold my 590 on here back in September.

    I could do with improving my photography skills because the photos above really don’t do it justice.


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    I have two Panerai’s now. Both titanium, preferring the Matt finish of titanium to polished steel. A 352 tobacco dial with gold hands (it’s the ti bracelet version) but I prefer it on a brown Panerai rubber strap. Also I recently got a 389 Submersible Amagnetic which I’m enjoying - managed to source a few different coloured Panerai 26mm accordion straps to mix it up a bit. I’m still on the lookout for a white 26mm rubber The Panerai quick release strap change system is incredible.

    My preference for titanium is a bit ironic given that my right arm is now full of titanium plates following a recent accident.


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    Trying the 2020 on the Scamosciato strap that I managed to get as part of the deal.






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    Well suited


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    Attachment 18648new straps from sword straps


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    That works!!! Looks great



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    Trying the 2020 on the Scamosciato strap that I managed to get as part of the deal.






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    Is that a canvas on the 1314? Like it.


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    Attachment 18648new straps from sword straps


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    Yes green canvas,pictures not really showing for me


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    Appreciating Panerai this morning :)

    The green diver strap a Christmas incoming. Works really well. Now have the navy, black and olive, so got plenty of options.

    And, the 422... I almost bought this from Rob back in 2017 in response to a WTB, and almost bought again a number of times as it spent it's holidays with Celia, Mark and Steve and maybe others? In great nick and interesting to finally have it. It wears bigger than the 670 and 389 and my 587, which surprises me, but I guess the shiny steel, clean dial, only subtly domed crystal and weight all add up. Serious DNA and a great one watch Panerai, not that that applies in my case.

    Have a great weekend folks. Be safe.

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    Congrats on the 422 pick up!!

    I struggled for ages between the 422 and 372 plexi, eventually ended up with the later but still not convinced it was the right choice over the 422 sapphire.

    Enjoy !!!




    Quote Originally Posted by ASW1 View Post
    Appreciating Panerai this morning :)

    The green diver strap a Christmas incoming. Works really well. Now have the navy, black and olive, so got plenty of options.

    And, the 422... I almost bought this from Rob back in 2017 in response to a WTB, and almost bought again a number of times as it spent it's holidays with Celia, Mark and Steve and maybe others? In great nick and interesting to finally have it. It wears bigger than the 670 and 389 and my 587, which surprises me, but I guess the shiny steel, clean dial, only subtly domed crystal and weight all add up. Serious DNA and a great one watch Panerai, not that that applies in my case.

    Have a great weekend folks. Be safe.

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    I too picked the 372 over a 422 ,which I think was a mistake,I’d of had that 422 last year if it hadn’t been for the 1314 purchase.
    They do wear big though compared to a 389 .
    Enjoy it looks great


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    Glad to see my old 422 has a loving home. I had both the 372 and 422 at the same time, briefly, and the 372 JUST won for me. However, as said above, it would be a better option for an "only" PAM.
    Here is my latest arrival now on a bakeka strap, loving the domed crystal. If it has a date complication it would be a perfect everyday wearer.

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    You need a 233 in your life!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Robsmck View Post
    Glad to see my old 422 has a loving home. I had both the 372 and 422 at the same time, briefly, and the 372 JUST won for me. However, as said above, it would be a better option for an "only" PAM.
    Here is my latest arrival now on a bakeka strap, loving the domed crystal. If it has a date complication it would be a perfect everyday wearer.

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