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    Sleeping bags

    Anybody have any recommendations on a decent performance to price bag? We went camping a couple of weekends ago and we were cold in our double sleeping bag so looking for a couple of single bags. A bit of research and I see there's all kinds of options.

    Not bothered if it's down or synthetic as long as we get a comfortable nights kip on frosty nights.

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    Take a look at Alpkit, their down bags are seriously good for the money. If you aren't bothered about weight, Outwell do some warm bags. I have a few bags of varying temperature rating but for UK use, I would aim for a 3 season bag minimum. I have a custom PHD bag and Feathered Friends bag which are good for the worst the UK weather can throw at you.

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    It depends a lot on whether youíre carrying your stuff any distance before pitching up (i.e. backpacking), or are you just putting the tent up next to your car at a campground. If itís the latter and you donít have any weight considerations then Iíd go synthetic. If you want to be flexible you could consider having two lightweight singles and sleeping inside those inside your double bag. That would also be more flexible as youíd be set up for summer too. And another big part of keeping warm is isolating yourself from the ground. Are you on some kind of mattress ?

    And for shops, Iím out of touch but Go-outdoors always used to have the odd bargain, and probably Decathlon is quite OK too.

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    Sales people at Go Outdoors are usually quite knowledgeable. They also have a wide choice.

    It goes without saying I donít have any link with them.
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    Try Rock + Run. They have some good deals at the moment on Mountain Hardwear sleeping bags.

    This one ought to be toasty and bear in mind women tend to sleep much colder than men if youíre camping with a female tent mate. I once came home to find my wife in a -40c sleeping bag on the sofa with the wood burner and central heating going. The mind boggles..

    Anyway hereís a link:
    https://rockrun.com/collections/moun...nina-z-torch-0


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    Also if you buy one left and one right zip, you can still zip them together if you wish, but your feet will be in separate bits at the bottom.


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    For damp inclement uk weather I would go for snugpak. I sleep out all year round and snugpak bags have never let me down. Above the snow line then it has to be a quality down bag but for the UK probably not that practical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyboy View Post
    For damp inclement uk weather I would go for snugpak. I sleep out all year round and snugpak bags have never let me down. Above the snow line then it has to be a quality down bag but for the UK probably not that practical.
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    Plus one for Snugpak, lots of the armed forces lads junk their std issue bags and replace with the softie range. Made in the UK ( Silsden)

    https://www.snugpak.com/outdoor/sleeping-bags

    Weight for weight down is warmer , but needs more care. Synthetic eg Snugpak can be used and abused, eg thrown poorly stored in cupboards, get wet and will still be warm.

    I normally go for a three season, you can open up the zips if you are two hot, if you go super light and get cold, then you will be, well cold!

    Single sleeping bags will normally be warmer as the seal better. If you are short like me 5í5 go for a 3/4 length, as the more you fill the bag the warmer you will be.

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    Cheers folks. We will be either sleeping in the back of the camper or on self inflatable mats in a tent so no need to be the smallest bag. Snugpaks look good but it's hard to look past the prices of the mountain hardware bags.
    @ idiotabroad that looks a good bag as I like the idea of a bit of extra room being made for women. I'm at the max recommended length though at 5"8. One thing I do want is a good zip.

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    Sleeping bags are a minefield, personally I don't get on with them as I find them too restrictive as a side sleeper. I've just ordered a blanket from these.

    https://www.astucas.com/en/products/sestrals-blanket/

    Also take a look at what your sleeping on as that can have a big impact on comfort and warmth

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    Another vote for the Snugpak. Am on my second Softie 9 in nearly twenty years. Been toasty in some fairly chilly weather. Conversely been far too hot in May. Really ought to buy a summer one too. If only I hadn't spent my kit fund on watches :-o

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    Get a gortex bivvie bag. Will uprate a two season sleeping bag. In the warmer weather the light sleeping bag will do.
    Simples

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
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    You should be just as concerned about the insulation in your sleeping mattress as you are about the bag.

    If you are using an unisulated inflatable mattress like the bog standard camping ones, you are likely to get very very cold.
    The down or synthetic insulation in your bag compresses underneath you and is pretty useless.
    A sheet of foam insulation over the air mattress can help, and a foil blanket below.
    If car camping, a thick wool blanket underneath you will help, but if you are doing that, why not just take a duvet.

    I backpack and have used an apex133 version of this backless quilt https://www.gramxpert.eu/product/elite-quilt/
    Down to -5įc, but it is backed up with a well insulated mat like this
    http://www.exped.com/international/e...s/synmat-hl-mw

    Obviously that's high spec gear chosen to save weight, but the principal is that a warm mat makes a lot of difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmitch View Post
    but it is backed up with a well insulated mat like this
    http://www.exped.com/international/e...s/synmat-hl-mw

    Obviously that's high spec gear chosen to save weight, but the principal is that a warm mat makes a lot of difference.
    Out of curiosity, and at risk of hi-jacking the thread, how robust do you find the inflatable mats? I've been using self inflating mats for years and I'm looking for a replacement for my current one which has seen better days. I like the idea of an insulated air mat but I am worried about about it puncturing and not having anything to sleep on (I don't fancy fiddling about with a puncture repair kit at 3am). At least with the self inflating mats you still have some foam even if it punctures. Have you had any problems with air mats?



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    As an avid camper, a great tip I read once was to sleep naked in your bag, this allows your natural body heat to warm the bag, whereas wearing thermals etc in the bag doesnít help. I was sceptical at first but now Iím always toasty and my wife who always wears her PJís is often cold. It works; but side note, if you sweat profusely and the bag gets wet itíll lose its insulation value. Iíd go for natural down as well over synthetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprite1275 View Post
    Cheers folks. We will be either sleeping in the back of the camper or on self inflatable mats in a tent so no need to be the smallest bag. Snugpaks look good but it's hard to look past the prices of the mountain hardware bags.
    @ idiotabroad that looks a good bag as I like the idea of a bit of extra room being made for women. I'm at the max recommended length though at 5"8. One thing I do want is a good zip.
    Hi

    Since weight is not a consideration

    The Outwell camper supreme is nice and warm and it can be fitted with the Outwell quilted liner.

    Great for in the van.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wimm View Post
    Out of curiosity, and at risk of hi-jacking the thread, how robust do you find the inflatable mats? I've been using self inflating mats for years and I'm looking for a replacement for my current one which has seen better days. I like the idea of an insulated air mat but I am worried about about it puncturing and not having anything to sleep on (I don't fancy fiddling about with a puncture repair kit at 3am). At least with the self inflating mats you still have some foam even if it punctures. Have you had any problems with air mats?



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    Iíve used Thermarests and more recently the Exped mats (down and synthetic).

    I think the insulation in the mat makes a pretty minimal difference to be quite honest. That said, they are more comfortable than Thermarests of similar weight/ pack size.

    And yes if you get a puncture youíre a bit scuppered. Iíve always used a foam mat under them on expedition as thereís just too much sharp stuff around to risk it (ice axes etc).

    Never had a puncture in my Exped mats yet, on over 100 nights. A mixture of being careful and theyíre quite well made.



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    I have an Outwell Campion. It's square shaped so you have room to turn, but the best bit is that it's double opening. Undo the foot-end zip and it's like having a duvet where you can stick your feet out. 2-3 season, nice little inside pocket, nice soft material. Recommended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdiotAbroad View Post
    Iíve used Thermarests and more recently the Exped mats (down and synthetic).

    I think the insulation in the mat makes a pretty minimal difference to be quite honest. That said, they are more comfortable than Thermarests of similar weight/ pack size.

    And yes if you get a puncture youíre a bit scuppered. Iíve always used a foam mat under them on expedition as thereís just too much sharp stuff around to risk it (ice axes etc).

    Never had a puncture in my Exped mats yet, on over 100 nights. A mixture of being careful and theyíre quite well made.



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    Thanks for your reply. I had considered getting a foam mat to put under the air mat but as I carry everything I take with me (including a couple of kilos of camera gear) I think the weight penalty will be too much. I might have to bite the bullet and give one a go and see how I get on. A bit of a pricey gamble but what price a good night's sleep?

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