Don’t normally post but I’ve been looking for a pelagos and came across this fake on eBay, I’d reported this item but two days later it’s still up. If anyone’s got a minute if you could report it too it might save someone getting burnt
Cheers!
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F223424799345
Why is it fake, apart from the ‘I inherited it’ description?
“... I am guessing it is genuine Tudor but cannot be sure so please bid on this understanding...”. That’s not likely to fill a potential buyer with confidence.
I guess I can’t say 100% it’s fake but it’s more than suspect, the owner had also refused to send more detailed pictures, which is a reasonable request when the provided pictures are low res and in bad lighting. Compounded by no box or papers and the need to specify that the watch ‘might’ be fake, I’d put money on it being fake.
And another!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/rolex-datejust/292996191452
"Rolex datejust my grandad gave it to me before he passed"
Finishing looks ok, although i haven’t compared against photos of a real one. May be real but possibly stolen...?
Replicas are astonishingly well finished these days if you pay enough. Looks like the fakes ship with a spare rubber strap that’s only 2 parts where the genuine has 3, not helping the case. I also struggle with the fact for £10 car parts he manages higher res photos with decent lighting but won’t do the same for a 3k watch?
Last edited by rizza; 3rd March 2019 at 09:02.
Whether it is fake or not, the seller is being pretty upfront and not trying to pass it off as definitely 100% genuine either. They might genuinely know absolutely nothing about watches and they are also willing to meet face to face.
I wouldn't buy it but see nothing wrong with the advert really.
Also, would anybody really bother to go to the trouble of trying to replicate something as boring as a Tudor?
If you’re not sure get it checked by a professional rather than adding a lame disclosure that it ‘might’ be fake? If this watch was going for a couple hundred, whatever the buyer is probably happy buying a fake for that, but it’s close to a grand now!
Expensive fake.
The bits near the winder look like they have been 3D printed.
£1470 with 23 hours to go.
Having just done a bit of research, this is a model I would be really cautious about buying without provenance...this seems scarily close!!
https://www.dealerclocks.cn/products...00tb-blue-dial
Note that a lot of sites purporting to sell replica watches are scammers, and use photos of the genuine item to draw people in. I don't know whether this particular site falls into that category, but in general I wouldn't trust an image on an unknown replica dealer site.Originally Posted by mtagrant
Hadn’t considered that! So it may be a fake fake 😄
That is unquestionably a fake.
You'll notice the seller's photos conveniently have the dial text obscured by the hands in the photos but there are other issues with it.
It's over a grand now. Somebody is going to be upset when the Seiko movement needs a service in 10 years
It's either been seriously abused, looking at the bracelet screws and clasp or it's not genuine Tudor. The clasp does look suspicious. I certainly wouldn't buy anything described the way it is. And I don't buy the inherited story... strange the watch, strap and extra links are together but no box, papers etc.
£1851. missed a bargain.
Unbelievable conclusion!
Apparently the purchaser is delighted with his overpriced fake!
https://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayI...ab=AllFeedback
"Received today exactly as described, top seller."
Staggered!
Good God.Id love to be in His local Tudor dealers when He takes it in for a service or repair lol
It's a valuable watch, the seller is tentatively suggesting it might be a fake as he thinks it absolves him of any wrong doing. Obviously, it's a fake, and they know it's a fake. You don't need to know anything about the particular watch, it could be any valuable watch. The seller is TELLING everyone it is a fake!
Love the crown shot, looks like the crown guards have just been constructed out of chemical metal. Total trash.
Seller’s a lying swine!
This ^^^^
Well - he’s carefully wording it, so as not to scare off everyone - sufficient numbers of people will see the plausibility in his story, and think it is a bargain.
Checked it against my LHD, adjustable bracelet wrong and as pointed out the crown guards are really bad. There is also no divers extension on the bracelet, doubt it would have been removed (but could have).
Last edited by Andrew S; 4th March 2019 at 09:49.
eBay threads annoy me (apologies to OP).
Who ‘inherits’ a watch and sticks it on eBay for £950 without taking it to an AD for authentication...
I’m getting worked up even typing this response. I’m getting old and grumpy !!!
They don't. They start at £0 and idiots bid on it. Still annoying though
The Ebay one is definitely fake.
Here is a pic of mine taken with my phone, no touching up etc, so you can see what a genuine looks like in real life and compare it to the vendors pics.
Last edited by ninjin; 14th March 2019 at 00:10.
If the guy finds its a fake, is there anything he can do, given that the seller stated it may not be genuine (or words to that effect)?
I doubt, if the buyer sued him, that the courts would give the fraudster any credit. He basically lied by suggesting that the watch might be real. He knew it wasn't otherwise why even mention authenticity?
Do You think He has His mates bidding on it?If no one else bites He can then cancel the sale?
As soon as you read the “inherited” story on an eBay listing you know it’s a fake.
That, or my uncle gave it to me 😆
Report it chaps (if you haven’t) it’s easy to do, the ‘report’ link is on the advert page.
Reported. That's a pretty poor fake tho, i gotta say.
Sent me this today.
Hmmmm, gave my nephew a Tag F1 few years back... little tyke flogged it within a few months!That, or my uncle gave it to me
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Presumably believes that the claim to not know whether it is authentic gives some protection when it is proved not to be. Where the law stands on that, I don’t know but if buying from eBay wasn’t risky enough, failing to heed the obvious warnings is plain daft.
Sadly some unsuspecting bargain hunters is likely to get stung.
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If I died my mrs would put my watches on Ebay not knowing what they're worth but saying 'I'm sure they're real but can't prove it's because she couldn't. All boxes and papers are at the back of a cupboard somewhere and they'd probably just get binned because they're just old packaging aren't they?
To me the fakes on the bay are quite obvious but I'm sure the real deal slips through occasionally.
Very, very rarely these days. There’s many people who will regularly check eBay for poorly listed adverts looking for that type of thing. I’ve done it for a few years and even on really bad ads with poor pics stuff goes for decent money. I actually think sometimes it fires people up more thinking they’ll get a bargain and holding their interest.
The best one in recent years was the guy that bought all the old Submariner bezels for a song. That slipped under the radar for sure.
Loads of them!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Men-s-Rol...h/183716275007
Not even using the model name but a very touching description:
"Men's Rolex Oyster Perpetual watch. Only worn a couple of times and left to me by Father who recently passed away. Wanting to sell so I can put the money towards a good send off for him."
I wonder if Rolex etc. owners with money-grabbing, poorly educated offspring have a higher mortality rate than the general population.
Must have been very recently if the funeral's not yet happened?! Listing seems to have disappeared.
I suspect that it's the 1 in 10 times eBay removes a fake!
This is an alternative approach. Presumably not even a fake watch, just images nicked from others listings/sites:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/rolex-sub...l/352609530226
"Hi I have my fathers rolex submariner, black face, stainless steel, in great condition selling as this was from my dads collection no longer required."
Another eBay account created today with, surprise surprise, no feedback.
LMAO at that opening bid. "Not sure what it's worth, here let's start the bidding at the cost of a low thread count set of sheets, pre-owned, may need laundering."
Well. The Pelagos is still on eBay with two days to run.
No idea how many people have reported it.
Are eBay listening!
What’s interesting is the seller is probably viewing this thread too. Thinking about it, they’re obviously full of xxxx with the “inherited” line so they know exactly what they have. No doubt a member of many online forums to find a replica of that level.
In fact given the detective levels of some on here I’m surprised nobody has matched up the location and some previously sold shoes (that cross over to SC) or something haha
I have noticed with eBay that they’ll happily remove Rolex fakes when reported but I often see other brands going ignored.
Report it, it’s easy. They may need a certain amount of strikes?
Doubt it. They're unlikely to kill the goose that's laying the golden eggs, sadly!
Best Regards - Peter
I'd hate to be with you when you're on your own.
I’ve reported it again saying they’re ignoring multiple people reporting it.
Has anyone messaged the seller and got their reaction?
I asked him for a dial photo and got the same one shown above. I replied to inform him that he'd inherited a fake.
No response.
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