Ive just had a very dissapointing experience with a canada goose wyndham parka, it was a 50th birthday present supposedly comfy to -20 i was walking round manchester in it last weekend with a shirt and wool jumper underneath it was -2 but not really warm i have now sent it back and have no present.
Has anyone else been similarly underwelmed by canada goose coats ?
Mine is apparently good to -20 but I've only used it at -5 max
For ease of use, I often just fasten it with the buttons but that lets a lot of cold in. For it to work properly, I have to use the zip to the top with hood on. If used like that, I'd say it works well for UK weather. I'd have a max of two layers on underneath but more likely one layer.
I think with a proper long sleeve "base layer" and a wool top and the coat done up properly, it would be fine for much more than -5
Have to say I love mine and only ever wear it with a t-shirt underneath otherwise I get very sweaty and uncomfortably hot!
Can't say I ever got cold in mine but I didn't managed to test it to -20 either! Was the Expedition model so slightly different to yours too.
Fit is quite important with these sort of jackets, too little room and there is no air space to warm you and too much room means it takes linger for all the air trapped to warm up!
Was the reason I sold mine in the end as was just a bit too big
Same , would never go out in my CG Langford with a jumper on also. Be sweating your bollocks off.Originally Posted by Gerald Genta
I’ve got a Canada Goose padded jacket. A bit shorter than the parkas and no hood. I was wandering around Manchester too this weekend as I live in the city centre. No complaints. I’ve been wearing it this winter and have had no complaints.
I layer up when it’s really cold though. Vest, thin t shirt, polo shirt and a zip up cardigan. It’s all about the layering.
I thought these were tried and tested for extreme weather ?
I think the OP shouldn't of felt anything except toasty in such a coat. Majority of people are walking around in regatta with layers and seem to be fine so how does a reputed Ant/ Arctic garment fall short ?
I'm glad I never dropped £600 on one and have worn a north face with layers and been fine. I've a parka from George which when worn with layers has provided adequate warmth in minus temps.
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I feel the cold but a shirt, wool jumper and any form of duck / goose down coat should see you right at -2degC. As mentioned, the big Canada Goose coats are rated to very cold conditions.
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Maybe mine was faulty the fact it didnt have a draw cord round the bottom i think made a big difference ive also got a mountain equipment lightline jacket that i was selling (not now) and its a lot lighter and warmer
Maybe it is to do with the fact that you tried it in Manchester?
I am sure if you were in, say, Newcastle, then I am led to believe that a short sleeve shirt would be fine to minus 20C.
What is this shirt of which you speak?
F.T.F.A.
I sold my Canada goose because it was too warm probably about 7-8 years ago now before everyone started wearing them thankfully. I use use a Fjallraven Yupik parka spent last week wandering around Berlin around -3/4 with just a T-shirt underneath toasty warm and waterproof which I don’t think my Canada goose was although I never tried it in rain.
Just bought a Fjallraven Yupik myself, it's an excellent coat.
I picked a Yupik up this winter. Very capable coat.
I am led to believe that it originated as evening attire for the Geordie Gentleman. Traditionally worn on a Friday and Saturday evening to appease the nightclub bouncers who took a dislike to shirtless men arriving in sub-zero conditions. The 'shirt' provides virtually no thermal protection to the wearer, so avoids much of the potential for accusations that the wearer is being 'soft' by wearing it.
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The only problem with mine is that it's never really cold enough to wear it.
sure yours wasn’t a fake?
i have had a chateau parka for about 5 years now and only wear it below 2º or if i know i will be standing around outside all day on a shoot. now i’m very slim with no blubber so feel the cold (not as much as the other half though) but if i wear it in 5º or above and do any walking around i’ll break out in a sweat. i have other coats in wool or down (a thinner RAB one for usual UK temps) that get more use.
i see people wandering around or on the tube wearing them when its getting towards double figures and wonder how they are not drenched? i think a lot may be fakes or they have paid top dollar and want to be seen wearing it so will endure being baked in it for the whole winter.
if i was buying now i would get the ‘dark’ version or maybe buy something else like Fjalraven, not because the CG coats are not up to scratch, they are, i just dont like the chav association.
I think it also depends on the individual and how he feels different temperatures?
Eg someone feels hot and another comfortable in same room temp or environment.
Also its all about layering right .
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I bought one last year, its the short padded jacket style with hood rather than parka but its been fine in all weathers and I wear it most evenings when walking the dog. Last couple of weeks we have been down to -3/4 and always been relatively warm with just a jumper underneath.
Considering its just a light jacket it wasn't cheap but works as it should.
Sorry to hear this OP.
I’m sure the animals who provided the down and fur for this would rather you hadn’t bothered either.
Thanks for the GIF.
There is no such thing as ethical fur.
Amazing that the fur trade is still alive and well in this day and age. I was going to buy a CG garment until a friend alerted me as to how they obtain the fur. A truely disgusting Company.
I guess many millions of animals have perished due to the watch industry, basically any manufacturing has a massive impact on the environment from mining, employment, shipping and even the financial side.
I’ll refrain from suggesting you take the ultimate vegan sacrifice though.
(Killing yourself and fertilising the woodland with your remains to go beyond zero environmental impact)
I needed a new winter coat and looked at these online and quickly closed the tab when I saw the price. I somehow justify spending a large amount on watches but a £500/600 cost is a no from me
You get good value for money out of them in colder climates. I agree it's too much money to spend if the coat's going to be worn only a couple of times a year, though.
Not sure you get great VFM.
I bought a North Face Serow parka, £450 down to £225 in last years Jan sales. No discount can readily be achieved on CG and you are looking at 3.5 times the price. You’d expect the spec to be better right?
Spec of the North Face parka is superior to the CG. CG uses inferior duck down whereas TNF uses superior goose down. Fill power on CG is 625, whereas my TNF is 700.
CG are very well made jackets in Canada (not China) but the spec is relatively poor for the price point, and better spec jackets can be had for far cheaper spend.
Animal numbers declining (not even dying) due to environmental change etc. isn’t the same at all.
I got a woolrich arctic parka from SC from vinny, it’s the warmest jacket I’ve ever owned. First outing in minus conditions I was sweating, I actually took it off in the end. Now I know how to wear it regarding layers, it’s perfect, it’s like going outside wrapped up in your duvet! Absolutely love it and the original arctic parka as seen in the movie the thing. Nice!
That’s a weak argument founded on a tenuous link. If it wasn’t, you would have expanded and used examples. Instead, you made an assertion in the absence of facts.
Coyotes are killed for their fur to line CG products.
What do you think they do to the Alligators to get the leather straps?
The issue many have with Canada Goose isn't necessarily that coyotes are killed, it's that they are made to suffer before they are killed as per the worst examples of the fur industry.
Quite. That's precisely why I wouldn't choose to wear one.
CG is the height of chavs these days as so many fakes around....best to avoid, Woolrich is a nicer alternative if you need such a warm jacket. Overkill for most of southern UK anyway. How people wear them on the tube I have no idea.
Agreed, the woolrich is the ‘home of the original parka’, and bloody warm as well! Only to be broken out in the event of an ice age.
Absolutely Love mine...
Fur policy https://www.woolrich.eu/en/cz/fur-policy.html
everyone is different and feels the cold (or not) to varying degrees.
despite growing up with single glazed windows and no heating in upstairs rooms i feel the cold outside yet don't like over warm living rooms inside. my partner who grew up in northern europe with regular minus 10º temps feels the cold more than me. both of us are slim or skinny compared to the average slightly overweight individual though which has a bearing on how cold you feel.
i’ll just wear what suits the conditions, it thats 0º with a bitter wind it will be the canada goose and i’ll be toasty warm.
i have a few friends in the film industry who all have a parka of some description for location shoots in winter as they make perfect sense if you are not moving around lots.
seems to be a british obsession about wearing the hair shirt regarding being warm/comfortable. probably something to do with our rubbish housing stock and thinking suffering hardship is a badge of honour.
I have a mountain equipment annapurna jacket that I bought over 35 years ago and still wear it in very cold weather. Just a t shirt underneath is fine for cold evenings in alpine ski resorts.
Thoroughly recommend.
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One word, small one, PHD!
Private Hire Driver?
I spend good money on coats as I basically wear them for 6 months a year.
You cant go wrong with RAB down jackets, ive bought them for years and buy a new one every September. The price point is decent 200-300 or slightly higher if you want superior summit jackets.
Canada Goose are good but I just don't like the design at all, look very geography teacher go on the Duke of Edinburgh award.
We are more than the sum of our purchases, or should be.
I can't believe that no one is thinking about the poor ducks and geese that provide the down. Stripped naked; they're probably bloody freezing.
Indeed really quackers situation.
I had their top of the line Snow Manta for a few years. Never wore the thing as the weight of it rendered you pretty much immobile.
Fantastic quality and never doubted it's -50 or -60 rating when stationary. Just totally useless in western Europe.
Always felt a little underdressed in it without a dozen rabid huskies in front of me. So ended up giving it to a
genuine Artic expedition leader.
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Don’t like most of the CG coats so I got a ParaJumpers one, I really don’t care if people are offered by the fur or down. But then again I don’t eat turkeys after being in a slaughter house that did 47,000 per day to feed The masses at Christmas. Each to there own.
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This one is right up there with a certain watch brand slagging.
Let’s get started on Stone Island shall we .......... and yes I went to a freezing cold Carrow Road Sunday wearing a ROLEX, my CG Expedition and a thin Shadow Project sweaty, oh and wait for it...... LEATHER Danner boots.
Honestly, why do people get their pants in such a twist over a bit of fur and a badge.
Core you saddo’s make me laugh.
Pitch (badge victim)
I purchased a Belstaff Parka on sale and it is very nice. My wife purchased Woolrich and I felt it was a step up in quality. Best I've ever seen is Nobis which also happens to be waterproof. I didn't buy it as it was too warm for our climate though. I've looked at CG in both a local store, Harrods and the Regent Street shop. My view was the quality was not there for the price point. I felt somewhat vindicated when my local store stockist told me they were returning a disproportionate amount of them due to quality control issues. They now stock Woolrich instead. Each to their own, buy what you like.
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Damn, someone has let that secret out! I replaced my CG parka with one of these-I believe made by some of the people involved with CG before it got taken over by private equity. Slightly less flashy styling but equally warm and more water resistant (I wouldn't say waterproof). Also see them far less commonly and usually with less associated sportswear. Also better for those of us without quite such a generous build as CG come up rather large in many styles.
CG do use higher down fill powers in some garments, I have a Hybridge vest still which is 800 fill down. I'm not sure anyone makes a large parka style jacket with 800FP down, I know some shorter expedition jackets do use it though
Nobis use Sympatex which they claim is waterproof though not personally tested it...
https://nobis.com/collections/men/products/the-heritage
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Hello, I know this has turned into a sort of "is it ethical" debate, but my wife has suddenly declared that she needs a new warm coat. Apparently she has seen a Canada Goose coat online in a style that she likes, but before trekking into London to actually try one on I would like to ask how do they come size wise, ie would a large womens one be a uk 14? Anyones other half got one and are they true to size?
And before we get to the "they are too warm for southern uk" debate believe me when I tell you my missus will probably be wearing it in June as she has a very slow heart rate so if not vigourously exercising she feels cold most of the time. Like I said she has seen a style she likes but I think they all look pretty similar across all the differant makes
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