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    Some of taste is towards the less popular end of the scale. I`m a big fan of yellow gold and bimetal, I`m not a fan of dive watches, I don`t like anything over 40mm, can't stand NATO or faux vintage straps.

    As an example, here's one I really like, bought it to restore/sell and ended up keeping it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    Some of taste is towards the less popular end of the scale. I`m a big fan of yellow gold and bimetal, I`m not a fan of dive watches, I don`t like anything over 40mm, can't stand NATO or faux vintage straps.

    As an example, here's one I really like, bought it to restore/sell and ended up keeping it.

    I have to say that your dislike of NATOs and larger watches has been somewhat undermined by this photo...

    ...just saying...

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    What’s your unpopular watch opinion?

    Tag Heuer make some great looking watches. Many WI dismiss them only out of snobbery.


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    From time to time, part of me hankers after a solid gold dress watch.

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    Nautilus is ugly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Panerais are like Mexican Food. Regardless of what you order, pretty much the same thing will turn up.....
    That made me laugh! I know what you mean!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrGrumpy View Post
    That made me laugh! I know what you mean!
    Me too! Although having a penchant for dive watches I'm well used to getting pretty much the same no matter what I order😳
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    Roman numerals on dials are horrid and are only for coffin dodgers who also want the return of Lb,Oz & gallons.

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    Quartz Seiko 7548 is better than the skx007.

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    Tag F1 grande Date was a nice and comfy Watch, don’t understand why Tags have such a.bad rep.
    Speed master seems highly rated but having tried one one next to a Smp ceramic, I preferred that.
    Rolex Facebook group are strange and like sharing random pics of watch whilst doing random things, and gets upset should they get negative commments 😂

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    I hate fluted bezels on any watch especially a Rolex. The Sky Dweller is a hideous looking watch. If it was made by anyone other than Rolex no one would buy one.
    Last edited by Robert189598; 18th February 2019 at 15:52.

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    I have a Raymond Weil I really like
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    Quote Originally Posted by ktmog6uk View Post
    I have a Raymond Weil I really like
    I see your quote and I raise you.....
    I have one too and it's keeps more accurate time than my Tudor..............

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    Gosh -- how unpopular can I make myself?


    Let's start with portholes.

    Portholes in ships are surrounded by acres of steel to make them strong and to give good sealing. Necessary on a ship; unnecessary on a dress watch.
    The idea of a "girl size" watch made large by encasing it if a lot of metal holds no attraction for me. M.Genta has a lot to answer for.
    Ergo there are no ROs, Nauts, or Laureati in my little collection.
    [It is no coincidence that the French word for "porthole" is "hublot".]


    Next, expensive mechanical "divers" (the watches, not the people).
    Clockwork and water do not mix well. Most "divers" endeavour to separate the clockwork from the water by means of polymer seals of various kinds.
    Unfortunately though, almost every mechanical watch still needs to be set by means of pulling out the crown -- each use of which will abrade the deals a tiny bit.
    And, there is no system which warns when a seal is likely to fail -- which means that such watches are "fail unsafe".
    "Fail unsafe" systems are inevitable in some areas of engineering, and are fine providing they are treated as disposable, and are well backed up -- i.e. cost £100 and you have five, of which you wear two if getting them wet.
    The idea of anyone paying £5,000 for a mechanical watch in which they intend even to wash the dishes boggles my mind completely.
    I have one "diver" (from GO -- I like the style), but it it's never going any nearer to water than my dress watches.


    And then there are display backs.
    If I am going to pay good money for an intricate piece of machinery, especially if hand crafted, I want to be able to view it -- thank you very much.
    The last watch I bought without a display back was twenty five years ago. Not going to change.


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    Agree that water and watches are not a good mix. Best kept apart whenever possible. I’d never swim in one , regardless of the design. At some point they will fail and let in water. Why take the risk?
    Last edited by paskinner; 18th February 2019 at 17:51.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    Why take the risk?
    For the joy of living?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    Why take the risk?
    Quote Originally Posted by alfat33 View Post
    For the joy of living?
    In fairness, easier to say with your £50 Vostok!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamaster73 View Post
    In fairness, easier to say with your £50 Vostok!
    Haha, I’ve got one somewhere with my £500 Tissot. Actually when the Tissot was the only watch I had, and very much a treasured gift, I used to swim in it all the time. On holiday I’d drop it in the pool and let the kids dive for it. I did service it a couple of times and had it pressured checked, maybe twice in 15 years. I guess I might have been lucky but I reckoned it was supposed to be good to 200m.

    I did lose one watch to water ingress, after the local bodge
    -up jeweller changed the battery and ‘resealed’ it. They might as well have just left the caseback off. I’ve learned to check the obvious since then.

    When I get a Fifty Fathoms I promise to post a picture underwater with it. ;).

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    I had a look round the Omega boutique...

    I didn't see a single watch I wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfat33 View Post
    When I get a Fifty Fathoms I promise to post a picture underwater with it. ;).
    Three very useful rules for life: Murphy, Occam, and Hanlon.

    Murphy states simply that anything which can go wrong will (at some time). Blancpain are well made, and your chances will be good with the FF, but . . . . . . . . . . . I look forward to the photo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert189598 View Post
    I hate fluted bezels on any watch especially a Rolex. The Sky Dweller is a hideous looking watch. If it was made by anyone other than Rolex no one would buy one.
    Agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itizme View Post
    I see your quote and I raise you.....
    I have one too and it's keeps more accurate time than my Tudor..............
    here is mine, it's also very accurate!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Panerais are like Mexican Food. Regardless of what you order, pretty much the same thing will turn up.....
    That made me laugh
    And ive owned quite a few panerais


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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    Agree that water and watches are not a good mix. Best kept apart whenever possible. I’d never swim in one , regardless of the design. At some point they will fail and let in water. Why take the risk?
    Applying this logic one would never get into a car or an aircraft due to its potential to crash...

    ...afraid of the day that never came...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yokel View Post
    Three very useful rules for life: Murphy, Occam, and Hanlon.

    Murphy states simply that anything which can go wrong will (at some time). Blancpain are well made, and your chances will be good with the FF, but . . . . . . . . . . . I look forward to the photo
    I’ve always taken my chances with Murphy, and not regretted it, but if I do end up with water in my Blancpain, at least Occam and Hanlon will tell me that it was as simple as me leaving the crown unscrewed and it was cock-up not conspiracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbongo View Post
    Applying this logic one would never get into a car or an aircraft due to its potential to crash...

    ...afraid of the day that never came...
    Different sort of risk entirely. There is a trade off for the risks you mention. If you want to get to Bangkok, or Penge, you weigh the risks associated with the means. There are risks of some sort associated with almost all human endeavour, each of which must be taken into account.
    These days however, there is almost no upside associated with dunking a mechanical watch (dive computers are much more effective and reliable (not to mention cheap)).
    So dunking a watch becomes an act of pure bravado, much like Russian Roulette.
    Each to his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfat33 View Post
    I’ve always taken my chances with Murphy, and not regretted it, but if I do end up with water in my Blancpain, at least Occam and Hanlon will tell me that it was as simple as me leaving the crown unscrewed and it was cock-up not conspiracy.
    Spot on.

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    I don't think there's much bravado involved with wearing a dive watch in a swimming pool...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfat33 View Post
    I’ve always taken my chances with Murphy, and not regretted it, but if I do end up with water in my Blancpain, at least Occam and Hanlon will tell me that it was as simple as me leaving the crown unscrewed and it was cock-up not conspiracy.
    Good outlook.
    Just enjoy the bloody watch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ktmog6uk View Post
    here is mine, it's also very accurate!
    I have a freelancer, was one of my first automatic watches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbongo View Post
    I don't think there's much bravado involved with wearing a dive watch in a swimming pool...
    Bravado: "a show of boldness intended to impress"

    Watch in swimming pool: benefit, nil; risk of damage, finite.

    As i said -- each to his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yokel View Post
    Bravado: "a show of boldness intended to impress"

    Watch in swimming pool: benefit, nil; risk of damage, finite.

    As i said -- each to his own.
    To be fair, would you rather wear your divers watch in the pool or stash it in a dressing room locker where theft is commonplace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yokel View Post
    Bravado: "a show of boldness intended to impress"

    Watch in swimming pool: benefit, nil; risk of damage, finite.

    As i said -- each to his own.
    How is swimming in a dive watch in any way "bold" or "intended to impress"?

    Watch in swimming pool: benefit, can tell time in swimming pool. Risk of damage, as you say, "finite" - limited. I'm still chuckling about you comparing it to Russian roulette!

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    Leave your Rolex on the beach when you go for a swim? That's very brave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holsterman View Post
    Leave your Rolex on the beach when you go for a swim? That's very brave.
    Definitely agreed. Taking a Rolex to the beach is in itself brave. Casio make fine beach watches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yokel View Post
    Three very useful rules for life: Murphy, Occam, and Hanlon.

    Murphy states simply that anything which can go wrong will (at some time). Blancpain are well made, and your chances will be good with the FF, but . . . . . . . . . . . I look forward to the photo


    You do realise that those aren’t actually......... Rules?

    They are anecdotes quoted by those who do not understand risk.

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    They are indeed philosophical razors. Rules of thumb that often apply, not rules to be obeyed.

    Benford’s Law is another example that sometimes applies to the forum.

    Back to the original topic, here is another unpopular opinion from me.

    A great strap improves a dull watch more than a great watch masks a dull strap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yokel View Post
    Definitely agreed. Taking a Rolex to the beach is in itself brave. Casio make fine beach watches.
    Spoken like a true Yokel! 😁

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    No one ever needs a non chronograph watch over 36mm. WWll was timed by watches between 30 and 35mm. Everest was conquered by watches of 35mm and the only watch to almost circumnavigate the world by air and in space was 27mm. Most of the record setting aviators between the wars wore a 27mm watch, either the Mk1 Weems or the Allproof. The fact is that the larger the watch the less that has ever been achieved wearing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yokel View Post
    Bravado: "a show of boldness intended to impress"

    Watch in swimming pool: benefit, nil; risk of damage, finite.

    As i said -- each to his own.
    Claptrap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbongo View Post
    I don't think there's much bravado involved with wearing a dive watch in a swimming pool...
    I couldn't agree more. If you don't believe a dive watch is going to be waterproof what's the point of a dive watch. Unless your so shallow (get the pun!) you just wear it for show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4tt View Post
    No one ever needs a non chronograph watch over 36mm. WWll was timed by watches between 30 and 35mm. Everest was conquered by watches of 35mm and the only watch to almost circumnavigate the world by air and in space was 27mm. Most of the record setting aviators between the wars wore a 27mm watch, either the Mk1 Weems or the Allproof. The fact is that the larger the watch the less that has ever been achieved wearing it.
    Totally agree. The best things come in small packages. 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yokel View Post
    Different sort of risk entirely. There is a trade off for the risks you mention. If you want to get to Bangkok, or Penge, you weigh the risks associated with the means. There are risks of some sort associated with almost all human endeavour, each of which must be taken into account.
    These days however, there is almost no upside associated with dunking a mechanical watch (dive computers are much more effective and reliable (not to mention cheap)).
    So dunking a watch becomes an act of pure bravado, much like Russian Roulette.
    Each to his own.
    Dive computers in a swimming pool? What for? There is literally no reason to wear one in a pool. A watch you can wear anywhere without ever once thinking about it. That’s useful. I’m swimming I want to know lap times, the time and I want to enjoy doing it. I don’t want to have to take my watch off or think about it unless I want to. If I’m in a situation in which I want a dive computer, I want a reserve and I want a dive profile written on my slate. The computer fails I want basic functions and no more, because I don’t want, while under the influence of nitrogen, to be tempted to carry on on my reserve. More to the point, I dont want a monoculture, I want two timebases that will be messed up by different things..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yokel View Post
    These days however, there is almost no upside associated with dunking a mechanical watch (dive computers are much more effective and reliable (not to mention cheap)).
    Where on earth did you get your reliability data on dive computers??? I have had several failures. Most are cheaply made and very few have WR ratings over 200m. Certainly, most can't even be compared to somthing like an SKX007 in terms of engineering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yokel View Post
    Gosh -- how unpopular can I make myself?

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    The idea of anyone paying £5,000 for a mechanical watch in which they intend even to wash the dishes boggles my mind completely.



    Am I unpopular enough now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Normunds View Post
    I think we have a winner
    I think so. The idea of paying £5000 for a watch and not wearing it boggles my mind. Risk is everywhere if you look for it.

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    As for paying five grand for a watch whose primary characteristic is its ability to be immersed.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisparker View Post
    I think so. The idea of paying £5000 for a watch and not wearing it boggles my mind. Risk is everywhere if you look for it.
    Exactly - its an abuse of logic so that it becomes irrational. As you say risks are everywhere - the number of people who are killed getting out of bed or falling down stairs is astonishing. Travelling by car is a small but distinct constant risk - yet we all do so. The 'risk' of wearing a watch for something its designed for obviously isn't zero (if the seals fail) but its incredibly small - probably far smaller than the tiny risk of being killed in a plane crash (scheduled flights anyway!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yokel View Post
    Definitely agreed. Taking a Rolex to the beach is in itself brave. Casio make fine beach watches.
    Oh yes, I forgot. Rolexes should never be taken anywhere near water!

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    A watch less than 40mm looks stupid on a wrist larger than 7".

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    All my watches look the same... - black faced divers. Unpopular anyway with my wife who thinks I have spent to much money!

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